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ITEM 5.10.
MEMORANDUM
TO: Mayor & City Council
FROM: Pat Klaers, City Adm' 'strator
DATE: November 20, 1995
SUBJECT: Update from City Engineer on Public
Improvement Projects
City Engineer Terry Maurer is scheduled to be in attendance at this City
Council meeting. As the construction season is nearing an end for 1995, it is
appropriate for Terry to provide the Council with an update on the status of
1995 public improvements and on projects that are ongoing in Elk River.
Background material on some of the projects listed below is attached for your
review.
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Central Business District Parking Lot
Elk Hills Drive
Western Area Phase II
N. Joplin Frontage Road and Signal
Riverview Drive Survey Results
School/Proctor Signal Study
County Long Range Transportation
Miscellaneous Items
13065 Orono Parkway • P.O. Box 490 • Elk River, MN 55330 • (612) 441 -7420 • Fax: (612) 441 -7425
5.10a.
November 16, 1995
CONSULTING ENGINEERS File: 230 - 223 -30
1326 Energy Park Drive
Mr. Pat Klaers
Sr. Paul, MN 55108
City Administrator
612- 644 -4389
City of Elk River
1- 800 -888 -2923
13065 Orono Parkway
Fax: 612- 644 -9446
P.O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: DOWNTOWN PARKING LOT PAVING
Dear Mr. Klaers:
As you are aware, a number of questions have been raised about the quality of the paving
in the downtown parking lot. We have reviewed this, both internally and with Steve Ach
and Phil Hals of your staff. It is our belief that the integrity of the work that was done is
CIVIL ENGINEERING: acceptable but the aesthetics are unacceptable. We are recommending to the General
ENVIRONMENTAL Contractor, Barbarossa and Sons, that a method of repair would be to hold back sufficient
MUNICIPAL funds to seal coat the parking lot and restripe it. Then we would suggest that the City add
*LANNING this parking lot to the 1996 Seal Coating Program and restripe it afterwards. This will
SOLID WASTE allow the City to complete the landscaping work prior to seal coating. Oftentimes,
STRUCTURAL landscaping equipment can mar a bituminous surface. Attached is a copy of a letter that
SURVEYING I have sent to Barbarossa and Sons suggesting that this is the best method to address this
TRAFFIC problem.
TRANSPORTATION
We will keep you appraised of any comments received from the Contractor regarding this
ELECTRICAL/MECHANICAL issue. For your information, the most current pay estimate on this project already has
ENGINEERING:
HVAC these funds withheld.
POWER DISTRIBUTION
SCADA If you have any questions regarding this issue, please call.
SYSTEM CONTROLS
Sincerely,
MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
Terry J. aurer, P.E.
OFFICES IN: TJM:tw
MINNEAPOLIS Attachment
PRIOR LAKE 223- 1603.nov
ST. PAUL
WASECA
An Equal Opportunity Employer
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I'MiSRUM, EIGREERS November 14, 1995
File: 230 - 223 -30
1326 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108
Mr. Paul Flykt
612.644.4389 Barbarossa & Sons, Inc.
1- 800. 888.2923 11000 93rd Avenue North
Fax: 612.644 -9446 Osseo, MN 55369
RE: DOWNTOWN PARKING LOT PAVING
CITY OF ELK RIVER
Dear Mr. Flykt:
Sincerely,
MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
OFFICES IN: Terry . aurer, P.E.
MINNEAPOLIS
TJM:tw
PRIOR LAKE
223- 1409.nov
ST. PAUL
WASECA
An Equal Opportunity Employer
As you are aware, Bauerly Brothers recently paved the downtown parking lot in the City
of Elk River. This was done as a subcontractor to you and a change order to the Western
Area project. The quality of the workmanship in the paving of this parking lot is
01VIL ENGINEERING
questionable. Many of the joints overlap and leave small ridges and, in some areas, it
ENVIRCNMENTAL
appears it was not properly compacted. The surface texture is rather loose and rough.
MUNICIPAL
Finally, the aesthetics of the job are very poor. We have reviewed the situation with both
'LANNING
Ralph Bader, our construction inspector, and Phil Halls, Street Superintendent. We
SOLID WASTE
believe that a reasonable solution to the quality of work on this paving would be to seal
STRUCTURAL
coat the parking lot in spring and then restripe it.
SURVEYING
TRAFFIC
The City of Elk River annually has a seal coating program. We would suggest that
TRANSPCRTAT1CN
sufficient funds be withheld from this portion of the contract for the City to include the
parking lot in their 1996 seal coating program and then restripe it after seal coating. We
.LECTRICAL /MECF;ANCAL
estimate the seal coating cost to be approximately $1,800. The striping costs would be
ENG!NE;RING
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similar to whatever we are charged this year for striping a parking lot. Unless you have
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a better suggestion of how to deal with this issue, it would be my intent to withhold this
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amount from the final pay estimate on this project for the corrections in 1996.
SYSTEM CONTR91LS
If you have any questions or comments, please call.
Sincerely,
MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
OFFICES IN: Terry . aurer, P.E.
MINNEAPOLIS
TJM:tw
PRIOR LAKE
223- 1409.nov
ST. PAUL
WASECA
An Equal Opportunity Employer
5. 10b.
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• November 8 NOV 1 1995 3 1995
I'ONSCLTII6 MIXERS File: 230 - 246 -30
1326 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108
612. 644.4389 Mike and Jackie Kedrowski
1.800. 888 -2923 18837 Dodge Street
Fax: 612. 644.9446 Elk River, MN 55330
RE: DRIVEWAY CONSTRUCTION
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Kedrowski:
As you are aware from discussions with our construction inspector, Ralph Bader, the
workmanship on the bituminous paving of your driveway is totally unacceptable and we
are going to require the Contractor to repave your driveway. However, given the weather
conditions at this time of year, it would be our suggestion that we wait until spring to
CIVIL ENGINEERING remove the existing bituminous and repave the driveway. We are concerned that, as the
ENVIRONMENTAL weather turns colder than normal, even if the driveway is replaced and is acceptable from
MUNICIPAL a structural standpoint, aesthetically, because of the cold weather, it will not have the
PLANNING desired appearance. I understand that Ralph Bader has discussed this with you and that
SOLID WASTE you are agreeable with waiting. - -
STRUCTURAL
SURVEYING We appreciate your understanding and tolerance in this matter, and apologize for the
TRAFFIC quality of workmanship on your driveway.
TRANSPORTATION
If you have any questions regarding this issue, please contact me at 644 -4389.
ELECTRICAii'MEC:- ANiCAL
E�GiNEERING
Sincerely,
-VAC
POWER DISTRIBUTICN
SCAR, MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
SYSTEM CONTROLS
Terry J. rer, P.E.
OFFICES IN:
• MINNEAPOLIS
PRIOR LAKE
ST. PAUL
WASECA
TJM:tw
cc: Mr. Pat Klaers, Administrator
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An Equal Opportunity Employer
CONSLLTING ENGINEERS
1326 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108
612.644 -4389
1- 800 - 888.2923
Fax: 612.644 -9446
CIVIL ENGINEERING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
MUNICIPAL
�PLANNING
SOLID WASTE
STRUCTURAL
SURVEYING
TRAFFIC
TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRICAL /MECHANICAL
ENGINEERING:
HVAC
POWER DISTRIBUTION
SCADA
SYSTEM CONTROLS
OFFICES IN:
MINNEAPOLIS
PRIOR LAKE
ST. PAUL
WASECA
5.10e.
November 16, 1995
File: 230 - 286 -10
Mr. Pat Klaers
City Administrator
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
P.O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS QUESTIONNAIRE
Dear Mr. Klaers:
The questionnaire to the Riverview Heights neighborhood was mailed last week. We have
started to receive responses this week. As of Wednesday, we received 33 responses out
of the 87 questionnaires that were sent. To give you an idea of how the early results are
stacking up, I have filled in the attached questionnaire with responses that have been
submitted from the 33 respondents. It appears that the majority of the people in the
Riverview Heights area are interested in at least having an informational meeting. From
the results of the questionnaire, some of those that have indicated an interest in an
informational meeting are opposed to sewer and water. I believe they want a forum to
express their concerns directly. There are a significant number, though, that have shown
an interest in the informational hearing for the purposes of further discussion of the sewer
and water issue.
I will keep you posted as the results continue to come in. In fact, I will update this as of
Monday and hand carry those results to the City Council meeting that evening.
In the meantime, if you have any questions, please call.
Sincerely,
MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
Terry J. aurer, P.E.
TJM:tw
Attachment
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An Equal Opportunity Employer
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RESULTS AS OF 11/15/95
RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS QUESTIONNAIRE
NAME: ADDRESS:
1. What year was your home built?
2. What is the condition of your septic system?
Good 22 Fair 4 Showing signs of failure 4
3. When was your septic system last upgraded?
More than 10 years 9 5 -10 years 8 0 -5 years 9
4. What is the condition of your well?
Good 25 Fair 3 Showing signs of failure 0
5. When was your well last upgraded?
More than 10 years 7 5 -10 years 10 0 -5 years 6
6. How is the storm drainage in your neighborhood?
Adequate 28 Needs improvement 3
Don't know 2
Don't know 6
Don't know 4
Don't know 8
7. How is the condition of the streets in your neighborhood?
Adequate 7 Needs some work 11 Needs major work 14
8. Your street is scheduled for overlayment in 1996. The estimated cost is $1,750 to $2,000
per property. The useful life of an overlay is 8 to 12 years, during which utility
construction would likely not be considered. Would you prefer that utilities and new street
construction be looked at and discussed prior to considering an overlay project?
Consider utilities and new street prior to overlayment. 12
Just consider an overlay project. 18
9. Given the financial information contained on the attached sheet, are you in favor of a
neighborhood information meeting to further discuss this issue with the City?
Yes 24 No 8
Additional Comments:
If you have any questions or would like to talk to somebody directly, please contact Terry
Maurer, City Engineer, at 644 -4389.
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RESULTS AS OF 11/17/95
39 of 89 Returned
RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS QUESTIONNAIRE
NAME: ADDRESS:
1. What year was your home built?
2.
What is the condition of your septic system?
Good 2$ Fair 4 Showing signs of failure 4 Don't know 2
3.
When was your septic system last upgraded?
More than 10 years 12 5 -10 years 9 0 -5 years 11 Don't know 6
4.
What is the condition of your well?
Good 29 Fair 5 Showing signs of failure 0 Don't know 4
5.
When was your well last upgraded?
More than 10 years 8 5 -10 years-j5 0 -5 years ___6_ Don't know 8
6.
How is the storm drainage in your neighborhood?
Adequate 32 Needs improvement 5
7.
How is the condition of the streets in your neighborhood?
Adequate 9 Needs some work 12 Needs major work 17
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8.
Your street is scheduled for overlayment in 1996. The estimated cost is $1,750 to $2,000
per property. The useful life of an overlay is 8 to 12 years, during which utility
construction would likely not be considered. Would you prefer that utilities and new street
construction be looked at and discussed prior to considering an overlay project?
Consider utilities and new street prior to overlayment.
Just consider an overlay project. 22
9.
Given the financial information contained on the attached sheet, are you in favor of a
neighborhood information meeting to further discuss this issue with the City?
Yes 27 No 10
Additional Comments:
is If you have any questions or would like to talk to somebody directly, please contact Terry
Maurer, City Engineer, at 644 -4389.
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November 15, 1995
P.O. BOX 338 • ELK RIVER, MN 55330 • PHONE (612)441 -1722 • FAX (612)441 -2264
Mr. Pat Klaers
City of Elk River Administrator
13065 Orono Parkway
P.O.Box 490
Elk River, MN 56330
RE: CSAH 1 at School Street Traffic Signal Study
Dear Mr. Klaers:
Although the above referenced study indicated that the intersection of CSAH 1 (Proctor Avenue) and
School Street satisfies one of the eleven warrants used to justify the need for a traffic signal, we do not
agree with the Draft Signal Justification Report (SJR) recommendation that a traffic signal is justified at
this time. However, based on the data collected in this study, we feel a traffic signal will likely be
•needed within the next year or two. Accordingly, we have programmed in our Five -year Construction
Program the installation of a traffic signal at the intersection of CSAH 1 and School Street in 1997.
We have discussed the signal study with MnDOT District 3 Traffic Engineering Staff and they have
indicated that we should proceed with submitting the SJR with modifications to incorporate some minor
traffic forecasting which should include traffic generated by the Lafayette Woods development and other
ambient regional traffic growth. The traffic signal would then be justified based on anticipated traffic
volumes and will likely satisfy additional traffic signal warrants for future years. The intersection would
not need to be reevaluated in the future in order to proceed with construction by 1997.
One item which we have begun discussing within the Highway Department staff is the SJR
recommendation to consider a "three- lane" design concept on CSAH 1 between TH 10 and CR 77 to
accommodate intersection channelization at CSAH 1 and School Street when it is signalized. We
discussed this concept with your City Engineer and he indicated that this design would facilitate other
improvements needed on CSAH 1 at the intersection of TH 10. We are also considering this design as
an alternative to our proposed four -lane improvements on CSAH 1 between CR 77 and CR 32.
In order to keep these projects moving forward, we will coordinate the CSAH 1 at School Street traffic
forecasting efforts with the consultant who prepared the original SJR. We will also set up a meeting
with you and your City Engineer to discuss the design options on our CSAH 1 improvements. If you
have any questions or require any additional information, please feel free to call.
Sincerely,
4--lai
David R. Schwarting, P.E.
Sherburne County Engine
cc Arne Engstrom, Sherburne County Commissioner, District 1
DATE: November 10, 1995
RE: Sherburne County Long Range Transportation Plan
SAC Minutes - Thursday - October 26, 1995
I. The Elk River Public Information Meeting was held Thursday, October 12, 1995
from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. in the Sherburne County Government Center Board
Room. The Becker Neighborhood Meeting was held Wednesday, October 11,
1995 from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. at the Becker City Hall. Announcements were
sent to the five local papers and the local radio stations.
The Elk River Neighborhood Meeting was held Wednesday, September 20, 1995
from 7 :00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. in the Sherburne County Government Center Board
Room. The Becker Neighborhood Meeting was held Thursday, September 21,
1995 from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. at the Becker City Hall. County, City, and
Township officials and special interest groups were invited to the neighborhood
meetings.
II. Presentation of Transportation Issues
The transportation issues that were collected from the SAC brainstorming session,
neighborhood meetings, public information meetings, and from concerned
individuals were presented. Please find a final copy of the issues enclosed.
III. Working Session
A group of policies were presented to the SAC and comments, corrections, and
concerns were raised. Most of the policies were highway related, and the SAC
added multimodal issues to the policies. Physical roadway standards and issues
were presented. Multimodal standards and issues were discussed. Mn /DOT
provided the SAC with their standards for bicycles.
IV. Schedule and Timeline
The next SAC meeting is scheduled for January 11, 1996 2:00 p.m. at the
Sherburne County Government Center Board Room, and at 7:00 p.m. at the
Becker City Hall.
Respectively Submitted, David Pies.
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Engineers • Architects • Planners • Surveyors
POLICIES
PRESERVE AND MODERNIZE KEY ELEMENTS OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM
To ensure that key elements of the existing transportation system are preserved by replacing or
rehabilitating transportation assets at the optimal replacement cycle. Improvements include
resurfacing, restoration, rehabilitation, paving, facility, and fleet replacement or modernization.
Replacements and rehabilitations based upon accepted industry standards will be given priority
over projects not based upon such system standards.
IMPROVE SAFETY AND SECURITY
To improve the safety of the existing transportation system through programs or improvements
which eliminate or lessen safety hazards. The safety and security of the user /customer of the
transportation system is the primary focus of this guideline.
MITIGATE CONGESTION
To reduce existing congestion or prevent future congestion on the transportation system. This
guideline is accomplished by projects which improve traffic flow and reduces travel time on
congested highways, transit or other facilities, reduces overcrowding and increases service
capacity and reliability, and relieves or prevents a worsening of congestion by taking proactive
steps.
PROMOTE PROPER USE OF ROADWAY
• To protect and improve the roadway system so that it achieves its proper use necessary to ensure
efficient mobility is the focus of this guideline. Projects which improve deficiencies to roadways
are given consideration under this guideline. Roadway deficiencies can be attributed to excessive
distance between roadways of the same classification, improper signal spacing, parking, excessive
access points, and improper posted speeds which results in inefficient traffic flow.
IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY OF ROADWAY
To ensure proper connectivity between two or more unconnected routes. Projects which have a
positive effect on mobility by improving the continuity along or between a roadway corridor will
be given priority consideration under this guideline.
PROTECT AND IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT
To protect and improve the environment through transportation projects that are environmentally
responsive. This guideline incorporates all environmental concerns, though improving air quality
and complying with the Clean Air Act are primary considerations. Projects will also be evaluated
based upon their support of environmental conservation, habitat protection, wetland conservation,
noise abatement, energy conservation, and maintenance of water quality.
PROVIDE MOBILITY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED
To ensure mobility for the transportation disadvantaged and to comply with the intentions of the
Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990. Projects which insure mobility and access to
transportation facilities for the transportation disadvantaged will be given priority consideration
• under this guideline.
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PROVIDE A BALANCED TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM FOR THE EFFICIENT
MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE
• To provide multi modal transportation options that provide an optimum level of mobility to the
users of the transportation network, plus reduce the reliance on the single occupant automobile.
Projects such as transit, bicycle and pedestrian facilities, as well as projects which provide
intermodal access are considered under this guideline.
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PROVIDE A BALANCED TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM FOR THE EFFICIENT
MOVEMENT OF GOODS
To provide an adequate infrastructure for the efficient movement of goods, utilizing a truly
intermodal system, coordinating truck, rail, and air to yield the safest most efficient, most
economical, and most environmental friendly mode. Projects which enhance the movement of
freight, and provide access improvements to major activity centers will be given priority
consideration.
SUPPORT SUSTAINABLE LAND USE
To reward transportation projects which encourage development in areas well served by the
transportation infrastructure, that do not have an adverse effect on the transportation system. To
reward development where environmental conditions are sufficiently stable to sustain further
growth, that are compatible with efficient movement of goods, that minimize conflict with
personal travel, and that complement and encourage a multimodal focus
SUPPORT LIVABLE COMMUNITIES
To provide a positive impact on the community's social and human environments. Projects will
be evaluated for their positive impact on neighborhoods and community livability, and on the
level of support communities and political leaders give towards the project. Transportation
projects related to such things as "traffic calming" techniques, travel demand management, and
pedestrian improvements which enhance neighborhoods or community livability will receive
priority consideration.
SUPPORT FINANCIAL STABILITY AND ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE REGION
To be consistent with Federal mandates which state: "Long Range Transportation Plans and
Transportation Improvement Programs must be financially constrained." The county vows to
ensure that limited financial resources are used in the most effective manner. To ensure a
competitive regional economy by promoting and supporting transportation investments which
recognize the mobility needs of business and industry, and enhance access for economic
development and tourism.
PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT
To ensure that the public has early, continuing and proactive public involvement, which will lead
to more creative and effective transportation decisions. Those projects which have been through
a public review and participation process or that have identified steps to be undertaken to get the
public and interested parties involved, will receive priority consideration.
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PRELIMINARY
SHERBURNE COUNTY STUDY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
• LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN
ISSUES
Corridors
• Zimmerman to St. Cloud Connection; East -West Corridor
• T.H. 95 Connection
• CR 22 Connection - Anoka County
• Develop and Preserve Corridors for Future Development
• CSAH 4 (Connectivity)
• Expressways / Interchanges / Funding
• Right of Way Preservation for Future Transportation Improvements
• CR 9 Paving (Multimodal)
• Future TH 10 Management
• CR 9 to CR 48 Connection
• TH 169 to I35
• CR 4 Connection North of Becker
Railroads
• Reduce At -Grade Crossings (RR) - By Elimination or Consolidation
• Eliminate Unsafe Crossings (RR) - By Signalizing and Adding Automatic Crossing Arms
• Limited Access along Railroad Corridor (Grade Separation)
• Railroad System Access (Becker)
• Truck Transfer Terminal (Rail to Road)
• All At -Grade Crossings (RR) - Have Been Signalized in Elk River
• • Bus / Rail / Passenger
• Trains Blocking Interchanges
• Proctor Crossing (Elk River)
• Grain Elevator Service (Rail / Truck)
Airports
• Airport Facilities - 3rd Airport (S.E.)
• Improve TH 10 Access to St. Cloud area airport (Golf Course)
• Northwest Airlines Connection to St. Cloud (Goods & Passenger Service)
• Add County Offices at Airport (Sheriff / Maintenance / Planning)
Mass Transit
• Wright /Sherburne Transit
• MCTO (Old MTC) Expansion to Elk River
• Park & Ride Lots, Van Pools, HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) Lane
• Commuting - Expressways - Rail - Rapid Transit
St. Cloud /Twin Cities /Elk River /Zimmerman /Princeton /Casino
• Heartland Express
• Bus / Rail
• Bus Connection (Shuttle) / Park & Ride to Utilize MCTO
Other Modes of Transportation
• Preservation of Railroad Corridor - Elk River - Princeton
• Recreation - Provide wide shoulders or separate path system
• Provide environment for safe non - motorized transportation and linear recreation
• Improve turning radii for trucks and improve free flow speeds on major routes
• • The Impact of Rail / Airport - Movement of Material and Goods
• Access to non - motorized trails (Refuge)
• County Snowmobile System (Existing Map)
• Grade Separation for Trails / Rails / Road (Old RR Bed CR 1 CR 33)
• Sand Dune Access / Safety / Demand (Equestrian / Snowmobile)
• Utilize ISTEA Funding
• Recreation / Transportation Blend
• • Need More Recreation Pathways / Parking Areas
Cities
• TH 10 / Michigan Avenue Connection (St. Cloud)
• CSAH 8 / TH 10 Connection (St. Cloud)
• CR 33 Bypass / 209th Avenue Plat (Elk River - Big Lake Township)
• CR 13 (Elk River)
• Interconnect Signals on TH 10 and TH 169 (Elk River)
• Elk River 1995 Draft Comprehensive Plan
• East / West Connector / Is it needed ? / How would it impact Quality of Life (Elk River)
• Clear Lake Bypass (70th Avenue - Township Rd)
• Access from 194 to TH 101
• St. Cloud Bypass - Improve TH 10
• Expansion of sewer / water services
River Crossing
• Bridge Crossing (Elk River - Big Lake)
• TH 10 / I94 Connection (Freeway)
• 33rd Street South River Crossing (St. Cloud)
• Waco Street / Zebulon Street / CR 33 (Elk River)
• Toll Bridge
• TH 15 Bridge Opening
• TH 101 Improvement - Feb 1996 (3rd Lane to I694)
Coordination
• Coordinate use of fuel services / Maintenance facility /Office space with transit services
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Evaluate Jurisdiction / Partnerships
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Coordinate Transportation Issues With Adjoining Counties
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Public Input / Education
Jurisdiction (Best Use for Roadway; Township, City, County, State, Federal)
Other Issues
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Right of Way Use - Minimize Residential Impact
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Social Impacts
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Land Use - Planning
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Environmental
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Air Quality
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Emergency Access
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Access Control - Integrity - Methodology
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Establish Fundable Transportation Plan
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Regional Mindset
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Development Impact - Transportation
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Creating Jobs in Rural Areas to Minimize Commuting Needs
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User Fees / Toll Roads
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Elimination of Dead End Street Development
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Golf Course @ St. Cloud Airport
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TH 169 @ CR 4 (Crossing)
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Transportation Utility Tax
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School Open Enrollment (Tax Base - Transportation)
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Metropolitan Council (Expansion)
•
Paving Gravel Roads
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• November 8, 1995
File: 230 - 000 -00
CONSULTING ENGINEERS
1326 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108
612- 644.4389
1- 800 - 888 -2923
Fax: 612 -644 -9446
Mr. Pat Klaers.
City Administrator
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
P.O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: TRUNK HIGHWAY 169 CORRIDOR
Dear Mr. Klaers:
5.1Oh.
At a Council meeting last month, Councilmember Dietz asked me to investigate the
likelihood of getting warning lights installed prior to the signals on TH 169. He
specifically referred to the type of warning light that flashes when the signal is about to
CIVIL ENGINEERING: turn red, and the warning lights are off when the signal light is in green mode. These are
ENVIRONMENTAL similar to the type of installation along Highway 65 through North Anoka County.
MUNICIPAL
•PLANNING I'have discussed this issue with Tom Dumont of the District 3 Traffic Division. He
SOLID WASTE indicated that MnDOT's current position is not to install this type of warning device. He
STRUCTURAL indicated that there are two major concerns with these devices. First is the liability
SURVEYING associated with failure. If the motoring public relies on the warning device and, should
TRAFFIC one of the lights be burned out, they could possibly approach a red signal without
TRANSPORTATION sufficient time to stop. The other concern of MnDOT is that these devices could have the
opposite effect on large trucks, specifically the gravel trucks. When a warning is given
ELECTRICAL/MECHANICAL that the signal is about to turn yellow and ultimately red, MnDOT is concerned that these
ENGINEERING: larger vehicles would have a tendency to accelerate trying to make the green light, rather
HVAC than slowing down and preparing to stop, then having to start from a dead stop with a
POWER DISTRIBUTION heavy load. Therefore, MnDOT is currently under direction not to install these
SCADA throughout the state.
SYSTEM CONTROLS
If you have any questions regarding this, please call.
Sincerely,
MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
An Equal Opportunity Employer
XA&r4t�
OFFICES IN:
Terry J. Maurer, P.E.
• MINNEAPOLIS
PRIOR LAKE
TJM:tw
ST. PAUL
000- 0815.nov
WASECA
An Equal Opportunity Employer