04-13-2010 ICE MINMEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
ICE ARENA COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, APRIL 10"', 2010
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Members Present: Vice Chair Johnson, Commissioners Malzahn, Foss and Barth
Members Absent: Chair Martin, Commissioner Gumphrey
(Gumphrey held up in another meeting per Lori J.)
Staff Present: Arena Manager Rich Czech, Arena Assistant Laura Estby,
Finance Director Tim Simon
1. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and nonce thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Ice Arena
Commission was called to order at G:08 p.m. by Vice Chair Johnson.
2. Consider 4/13/10 Ice Arena Commission Agenda
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER FOSS AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MALZAHN TO APPROVE THE APRIL 13TH, 2010
ICE ARENA COMMISSION AGENDA. THE MOTION CARRIED
4-0.
3. Consider 1/13/10 Ice Arena Commission Minutes
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BARTH AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER FOSS TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 13TH, 2010 ICE
ARENA COMMISSION MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
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No Discussion
5. Arena Financials
Finance director Tim Simon notes that overall was a good year, financially.
Ice rentals were above projected income and above 2008 totals. Revenue for
recreation programs was down, however, the expenditures to run them were
also down. Utilities expenses were significantly under what was projected.
Arena Manager, Rich Czech notes the drop in utilities was due to several factors
including raising the ice temperature, lowering the water temperature needed for
making ice and that the humidity levels were adjusted. In addition the arena had
an energy audit completed by Centerpoint. Czech also notes that we need to look
at the hours that the recreation programs use when considering how much money
they made.
6. Office of Energy/Security Grant
Arena Manager Czech notes that we are in a waiting game with regards to the
grants. We were awarded the full amount ($87,065.00) that we requested to
complete all three projects. The last communications with the State Office of
Energy Security were that they wanted to know how we would be disposing of the
old lights, boilers, etc. Tim Simon has answered their questions, and now we are
waiting for the next step. Czech states that he would like to start the projects as
early as mid-May.
Compressor Vessels/A S.M.E. Certification
Vice Chair Johnson asks where we are not in compliance. Arena Manager Czech
states that he is looking for clarification on the definition of a vessel. We have
always passed inspections in the past, and wants to know if rules have changed, or
why these particular vessels need to be tagged. The cost would be $5,000 per unit
X 4 units if it needs to be replaced. The insurance company suggests replacing the
units as it would be cheaper than having them tested.
Vice Chair Johnson inquires if our insurance could be withheld if we are not in
compliance.
Commissioner Malzahn suggests that Arena Manager Czech contact our previous
insurance company to see if there is are new rules, or what their perimeters for
inspecting were.
8. Indoor Air Oualitv for Ice Arenas
Arena Manager Czech notes that the regulations for Carbon Dioxide and Nitrogen
Dioxide have been the same since the 1970s. However Representative Rick
Hanson is trying to change the standards, including requiring continuous
monitoring via electrical systems at ice level. However, no monitoring devices
have been approved to use. At this point, if arenas are all electrical (Zamboni's
and edgers) then they would not be effected.
Vice Chair Johnson notes that at this point, since we do have a gas edger, we
would only be effected by at $350 fee until 2013 when we would have to be in
compliance.
Arena Manager Czech states that a new edger would cost approximately $6100.
He also notes that the requirements are still changing daily and that he will keep
the commission posted with new developments.
9. Ice Rates
A list, provided by Arena bfanagex Rich Czech, of some of the northwestern metro
Arena's proposed ice rates fox the 2010-2011 season were reviewed by the Arena
Commission. Arena Manager Czech noted the Arena's rates as $170.00 prime time
and $145.00 non-primetime. Mr. Czech noted that the Prime Time Ice Rate has not
been increased fox the past 2 years, while the building has been in need of more
repairs as it gets older to keep the building operating efficiently and safe. Mx. Czech
recommended that the prime time ice rate fox the regular season (September-Mid
March) be increased by $5.00/an hoax- bringing it to $175.00/hour while keeping
the non-prime rate at the current level. It would still put us below the average of
$181 for the Northwest Metro azenas.
Commissioner Malzahn inquired if Youth Hockey was aware of the proposed
increase. Mr. Czech states that he had contacted the treasurer, and in addition, the
Youth Hockey President also receives a commission packet.
Commissioner Malzahn notes that he heard from the Youth Hockey President
Lyle Slawson and he urges us to keep the rates the same for one more year. He
states that they have been considering purchasing ice at other arenas if our prices
increase, including Fogerty and Princeton.
Vice Chair Johnson notes that the reason that we have held the rates the past two
years was in lazge part due to Youth Hockey.
Commissioner Barth notes that while the school would like to see the rates stay
the same as well, considering the fact that the rate has stayed the same for the past
two years, he believes that a $5/hr increase is fair.
Arena Manager Czech notes that the reason that Ice is cheaper at Fogerty is due to
the fact that it is subsidized by gaming, as well Princeton having built a new sheet
is having trouble selling their ice.
Commissioner Malzahn relates that Slawson considers this Youth Hockey's time
of need, and brings up the fact that they helped finance the bleachers several years
ago. Malzahn also inquires as to when the change would take place.
Arena Manager Czech notes it starts with the new season, in September
Commissioner Malzahn asks if we could meet in the middle and have it start
effective January 1 s`?
Arena Manager Czech notes it is possible.
Vice Chair Johnson notes that due to the absence of Jerry Gumphrey and Chair
Martin that the issue should be tabled until August.
(Commissioner Barth leaves)
10. Other Business
Vice Chair Johnson inquires about the Wall of Fame. Arena Manager Czech
notes, that he will check with Kent to see if any progress has been made.
Arena Manager Czech notes that the August meeting will need to be rescheduled
due to primary elections. The official form will be sent to Chair Martin and the
commission will be informed of the change.
Commissioner Malzahn requests that the Commission packets be sent sooner as
he did not feel he had enough time to review.
11 Adjournment
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MALZAHN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER FOSS TO ADJOURN MEETING. MOTION
CARRIED 3-0
The meeting of the Elk River Ice Arena Commission was adjourned at 722pm.
Minutes Prepared by Laura Estby
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Tina Allard, City Clerk ~~~~
Martin, Chair