07-27-2010 PC MINSPECIAL MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JULY 27, 2010
Members Present: Chair ~X'estberg, Commissioners Anderson, Bell and Lemke
Commissioner Scott arrived at 6:33 p.m.
Members Absent: Commissioner Ives
Staff Present: Jeremy Barnhart, Planning Manger; Debbie Huebner, Recording Secretary
Also Present: Peter Beck, City Attorney
Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Planrvng Commission
was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Chair Westberg.
2. Consider 7/27/10 Special Planning Commission Agenda
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LEMKE TO APPROVE THE JULY 27, 2010 SPECIAL
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
• Commissioner Scott arrived at this time.
5.1. Reduest by Wapiti Park (Lorraine White for Interim Use Permit- Case No. CU 10-16
The staff report was presented by Jeremy Barnhart. He reviewed each of the eight
conditions recommended by staff. He stated that six of the issues are being worked out with
the applicant, but that staff and the applicant are in disagreement with Condition #5 and #7.
Mr. Barnhart explained that Condition #5 is partly to address the year-rounding living in the
campground. He stated that several of residents use Wapiti Park as the address for their
vehicles and/or driver's licenses. Staff has concerns that a number of the structures are not
made protect campers from the severity of the winters here.
Condition #8 is a result of an inspection of the campground in which staff and the building
official found a number of changes and improvements that do not seem to meet the
definition of a recreational vehicle as identified by the state. Staff recommends approval
subject to the eight conditions.
Commissioner Lemke asked if a truck would be allowed to remain if the recreational camper
was removed. Mr. Beck stated that yes, a car or truck could remain.
Chair Westberg opened the discussion for public comment.
Adam Kaatz, 1907 East Wayazta Blvd, Wayzata, MN 55391- stated that he was in
agreement with staff on six of the conditions, but that was before he had a chance to look at
• the 2000 file. Mr. Kaatz addressed the conditions as follows:
Planning Commission Minutes
August 27, 2010
Page 2
Condition #1 -limits Wapiti Park to 10 years. He stated that that in 1984, Wapiti Park was •
issued a Conditional Use Permit for a building, but he u~as not sure why they needed one,
since they were grandfathered in. In 1999, when their bar burned down, they were asked to
apply for another Conditional Use Permit, but the Council instead issued Interim Use
Permit. He stated that wapiti did not apply fox an Interim Use, and the hearing notice
stated they were requesting a Conditional U se Permit. It was his understanding that there is
no time limit on a Conditional Use Permit. He felt an argument could be made that the
original 1984 CLTI' should still be valid. He questioned why Wapiti Park needs to apply for
permit now, and why the 10-year limit.
Condition #2 - Mr. Kaatz re~~iewed a letter from Mr. Schuelender regarding the septic
svstem.
Condition #3 and #4 - He and the applicant are working with staff and he is confident they
will be able to come up with both a debris and manure management plan.
Condition #5 - Mr. I~aatz stated this is a big problem, because not only would the owner
lose income for those months, but also would take away the campers right to chose to stay
there. Mr. Kaatz stated he did not see anyd~ing in the ordinance prohibiting year-round
camping.
Condition #6 - Mr. Kaatz stated that the only real outstanding issue regarding the Health
Department is some file in the bathroom.
Condition #7 =Wapiti has current license.
Condition #8 -The home on the property is for personal use and was left there by a •
previous tenant as pa~-ment for rent owed.
Mr. Kaatz questioned who is objecting to Wapiti Park being there and why.
There being no further public comment, Chair Westberg closed the public comment portion
of the discussion.
Mr. Beck stated that a CUP was issued in 1984 and the zoning ordinance was subsequently
amended to remove campgrounds as a conditional use. Therefore, when the building was
completely destroyed by fire in 1999, Wapiti was not eligible for a CUP. He noted that there
were some changes made in state law in 2006 regarding non-conforming uses. Mr. Beck
explained that the Cits~ granted an Interim Use Permit in order to allow the building to be
constructed. He stated that the campground use is still a nonconforming use, and Wapiti
would need an Interim Use Permit to continue operation of the building.
Mr. Beck stated that permanent residency at Wapiti violates city code and state law. He
stated that manufactured home parks are different than recreational camping areas. He
discussed the definition of a campground and that it does not include permanent camping.
Mr. Beck stated the staff is attempting to address the concern of wintering, and closing the
park for the two coldest months would address that issue. He stated that weather-
appropriate vehicles could be considered separately, but permanent residency would only be
allowed in a mobile home park and would be subject to different laws.
Mr. Beck stated that the city's building official could inspect the site to determine what is •
and is not a recreational camping vehicle by state law.
Planning Commission Minutes
August 27, 2010
Page 3
• Commissioner Bell read a portion of state law regarding recreational camping vehicles,
which referenced separation between carports, awnings, etc. He stated that by mentioning
this items, it implies that they are allowed. He stated that air conditioning can be very
important when camping and having an air conditioner does not necessary mean the
camping vehicle is permanent He also stated that he felt having a vehicle registered to the
campground address does not mean someone lives there year round. He stated he was
opposed to closing the park down to eliminate people living there year round, if there is no
proof. He stated the property owner has a responsibility- to comply with cite ordinance, and
felt there was some merit in differentiating manufactured homes and recreational vehicle
campgrounds. He was not sure if permanent decking improvements should determine year
round living.
Chair ~v'estberg stated that relatives checked out ~X~apiti Park as a possible camping site and
conveyed to him that it seemed more like a permanent living facility, rather than a
campground. He felt that Condition #8 would ensure enforcement of the issue.
Commissioner Scott asked if Wapiti was currently licensed by the state. Mr. Beck stated yes.
Commissioner Scott stated that he did not wish to interfere with people's lives, but if it is
becoming a manufactured home park, rather than a campground, the owner needs to
proceed that way.
Commissioner Johnson asked if staff surveyed any oilier cities regarding manage recreational
campgrounds. NIr. Barnhart stated that he has not researched the issue.
• Commissioner Anderson stated that if Condition #8 could be worked out, Condition #5
could possibly go away. He stated that he understood why the city issued an interim use
permit He felt enforcement of Condition #8 would clearly define what is and is not a
recreational camping vehicle. Commissioner Anderson stated that this is not an issue of
affordable housing, since it is a campground. He felt the issue should be moved on to the
city council with the conditions recommended by staff.
Commissioner Lemke expressed concern that on every case the Commission has heard in
the past, a condition is included that all building, safety and fire codes must be met. He
stated that it seems every one is ok with dismissing or disregarding this condition for this
case. He stated that he is concerned about the misaligning of temporary and permanent
uses. Commissioner Lemke stated that there is a level of public safety that needs to be met.
He stated he was concerned that eleven people are using Wapiti Park as their address on
their licenses, noting that Mr. Keillor stated he has lived there a year and a half.
Commissioner Bell stated that Condition #8 needs a clearer definition of what is a
recreational camping vehicle. He stated that having an air conditioner or an address on a
driver's license does not mean permanent. Chair Westberg stated that Condition #8
references state statute. Commissioner Bell stated that he feels there still is some gray area.
Mr. Beck stated that storage sheds, air conditioning, decks and expansions could help
identify which vehicles are in violation. He stated that using the campground's address on a
driver's license seems to imply some permanency. He stated that recreational camping
vehicles are not designed for year-round use. He stated there are pages of regulations for
manufactured homes to address year-round living. Mr. Beck stated that it may be possible to
• address these concerns other than by Condition #5, such as Wapiti having its own
covenants.
Planning Commission ivlinutes
August 2?, ?010
Page 4
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BELL TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF .
THE REQUEST BY WAPITI PARK FOR AN INTERIM USE PERMIT WITH
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THE APPROVAL IS VALID FOR TEN YEARS OR UNTIL OWNERSHIP
OF THE PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED, WHICHEVER COMES
FIRST.
2. INSPECT AND VERIFY THAT THE ONSITE SEPTIC SYSTEM IS
DESIGNED TO BE FUNCTIONAL YEAR ROUND AND REMAINS
FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
3. STAFF APPROVAL OF A MANURE MANAGEMENT PLAN, IN
COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 10-9 OF CITY CODE.
4. APPROVAL OF A DEBRIS MANAGEMENT PLAN BY ELK RIVER
ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION.
5. INTERIM USE PERMIT SHALL NOT BE ISSUED PRIOR TO
COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS AS
IDENTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH INSPECTOR.
6. MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE STATE LICENSES.
7. ALL STRUCTURES AND VEHICLES OTHER THAN RECREATIONAL
CAMPING VEHICLES AS DEFINED BY MINNESOTA STATUTES
SECTION 327.14, SUBDIVISION 7 SHALL BE REMOVED AND ARE •
NOT PERMITTED.
The motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioner Anderson suggesting having staff, the applicant, and attorneys address the
year-round issue. Commissioner Bell stated that the applicant pays ayear-round license fee
and would not be able to have year-round camping. Commissioner Anderson stated that it
would be up to the applicant how to attract winter users.
Commissioner Scott asked if the applicant could request to have a mobile home park. Mr.
Beck stated that a number of approvals would be needed for a mobile home park, first of
which would be a zone change.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SCOTT AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY WAPITI PARK FOR AN INTERIM USE PERMIT, WITH THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
8. THE APPROVAL IS VALID FOR TEN YEARS OR UNTIL OWNERSHIP OF
THE PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.
9. INSPECT AND VERIFY THAT THE ONSITE SEPTIC SYSTEM IS
DESIGNED TO BE FUNCTIONAL YEAR ROUND AND REMAINS FULLY
FUNCTIONAL.
10. STAFF APPROVAL OF A MANURE MANAGEMENT PLAN, IN •
COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 10-9 OF CITY CODE.
Planning Commission Minutes
August 27, 2010
Page 5
• 11. APPROVAL OF A DEBRIS MANAGEMENT PLAN BY ELK RIVER
ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION.
12. DUE TO THE CONCERN FOR RESIDENTS LIVING IN CAMPERS
DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, CAMPGROUND MUST BE CLOSED
JANUARY 1 THROUGH MARCH 1.
13. INTERIM USE PERMIT SHALL NOT BE ISSUED PRIOR TO
COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS AS
IDENTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH INSPECTOR.
14. MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE STATE LICENSES.
L5. ALL STRUCTURES AND VEHICLES OTHER THAN RECREATIONAL
CAMPING VEHICLES AS DEFINED BY MINNESOTA STATUTES
SECTION 327.14, SUBDIVISION 7 SHALL BE REMOVED AND ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
MOTION CARRIED 4-2. Chair Westberg and Commissioner Bell opposed.
6. Other Business -None
Adjournment
There being no further business, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING.
• The meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at 7:28 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Debbie Huebner.
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Tina Allard
City Clerk
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Chad Westberg
Chair
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