12-08-2010 PR MINMEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
HELD AT CITY HALL
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2010
Members Present: Chair Anderson, Commissioners Ahlness, )aker, Karlsen, Niziolek,
and Nystrom
Members Absent Commissioner Peterson
CouncIl Liaison: Counciltnember Zerwas
Staff Present: Steve Benoit, Recreation Manager; Chris Leesebexg, Planner/Park
Planner; Tonya Love, Recording Secretary; Stephanie Albin,
Recreation Coordinator
Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Parks and
Recreation Commission was called to order at 6:33 p.m. by Chair Anderson.
2. Consider December 8. 2010 Parks & Recreation Commission Agenda
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit asked to add the following items to the agenda;
7.2.C. Policy for Field Use
7.2.D. Snowmobile and ATV use in City Parks
7.2.E. Dog Waste in City Parks
Commissioner Nystrom asked to add discussing the selection process of hiring the
Parks and Recreation Director.
Commissioner Karlsen asked to add discussing the possibility of hosting an outdoor
pond hockey tournament.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER NIZIOLEK AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER NYSTROM TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 8, 2010
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION AGENDA. CARRIED 6-0.
3. Consider Minutes of November 10. 2010 Parks & Recreation Commission Meetin
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER AHLNESS AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER JAKER TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 10, 2010
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
4. Open Mike-None
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December 8, 2010
Volunteer of the Month
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Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit recognized Ben Broten as this month's Volunteer
of the month.
6. Recreation Manager's Report -Steve Benoit
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit shared the Elk River Senior Center and Elk River
Ice Arena staff reports.
Mr. Benoit talked about the preschool tumbling classes held at the YMCA and the
top November classes held.
Mr. Benoit presented the new winter Program Guide and explained that it has been
mailed out to past participants and available at key points throughout Elk River.
Mr. Benoit shared that the "Winter Trail Rules" are now in effect in Woodland Trails
Park.
Action/Discussion Items
7.1.A. Major Park Use-Woodland TraIls Park FRHS Cross Countt~ Meet
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit presented a major park use request by the Elk
River High School to use Woodland Trails Paxk on October 13`h, 2011 fox the cross
country conference championship meet.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER NYSTROM AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER AHLNESS TO ACCEPT STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS AS DISCUSSED FOR THE ELK RIVER HIGH
SCHOOL CROSS COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIP MEET AT WOODLAND
TRAILS PARK. MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
7.1.B. Major Paxk Use-Lions Park Winter Festival
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit presented a major park use request by the Elk
River Chamber of Commerce to use Lions Paxk and Lions Paxk Center on February
12`h, 2011 to hold a community winter festival fundraiser event.
Elk River Chamber of Commerce President, Debbi Rydbexg presented the
committee's concept idea for the festival they want to hold in February.
Chairman of the Elk River Chamber of Commerce Board, Alan Sakry stated that the
vision is changing at the Elk Ricer Chamber of Commerce and are looking to
involve residents along with chamber members.
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Commissioner Anderson asked Commissioner Kaxlsen to present his idea of a pond
hockey tournament and that the two events may tie together.
Commissioner Kaxlsen explained that hosting a pond hockey tournament may work
in conjunction with the chambers event. If the chamber board would fund a
marketing campaign at this year's US Pond Hockey Tournament sharing Elk River's
commitment to hosting in the future. The winter festival could showcase the hockey
tournament.
Ms. Rydberg stated that they are anticipating the event to grow in the future and
could be something to look into.
Commissioner Anderson asked if the events could be held on the same day.
Ms. Rydberg expressed that may be confusing in the marketing efforts, however it is
early enough in the planning process that anything is possible.
Commissioner Kaxlsen shared that the pond hockey tournament is a 3-day event.
Commissioner Anderson expressed that with the events being different lengths it
may be confusing to the public.
Commissioner Kaxlsen stated that they could collaborate the two events and put it
together for next year.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER AHLNESS AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER JAKER TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS
AS DISCUSSED FOR THE ELK RIVER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO
USE LIONS PARK AND LIONS PARK CENTER ON FEBRUARY 12T",
2011. MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
7.2.A. Protection of Natural Resources
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit reported that there has been concern raised
regarding the protection of natural resources in Elk River City Parks. The concern
focuses on the issue of visitors removing resources from the parks such as plantings
and deer shedding's. Currently the CitS~ of Elk River does not have an ordinance
prohibiting the removal of natural resources from parks. Staff is looking for
feedback on whether to put together a policy or not.
Commissioner Niziolek shared that people harvest berries in the fall in Woodland
Trails Paxk and would like to have a discussion about it.
Commissioner Anderson expressed being in favor of exploring a policy.
Commissioner Niziolek shared a list of possibilities that people may be interested in
harvesting.
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Commissioner Anderson questioned whether geo-caching should be included in the
discussion.
Commissioner Niziolek shared that the Elk River Cross Country team does
orienteering during their season.
Commissioner Jaker stated that it would make sense to research other policies and
consider how the items are listed, such as "sample list, there may be items not
listed".
Commissioner Anderson expressed that staff should proceed with research.
Councilmembex Zerwas questioned if this would be an ordinance or policy.
Mr. Benoit stated that other cities have this as an ordinance.
Councilxnember Zexwas stated that if there is a concern of people gathering in areas
that have been planned out, it would be a good idea to do an ordinance.
7.2.B. City Native Plantings
Planner/Paxk Planner, Chris Leeseberg shared that staff is looking at a formalized
way to track City natural resources. Woodland TxaIls Paxk, Meadowvale Elementary
grade, Camp Cozy Park, Orono Paxk, Oak Savanna Paxk, medians, library, East and
West Highlands Paxk, Kliever Point Park and slope at Handke axe areas of interest to
track.
Commissioner Nystrom shared that plants have been taken from Oak Savanna Park.
Commissioner Anderson stated that both Oak Knoll Athletic Complex and the
Great Northern Trail have plantings and not sure who owns them, the City of Elk
River or School District 728. There is a group of volunteers who help maintain
these areas and hope by formalizing the process we can raise awareness and
recognition and have a City supported management plan by volunteers.
7.2.C. Policy fox Field Use
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit shared that staff has been reviewing the current
policy fox athletic field use. There has been an increase in requests from groups
wishing to utilize city fields. Staff has identified areas in which the current policy
would better serve user groups by being updated.
Mr. Benoit expressed that the two issues axe that the current policy does not list all
types of user groups that request fields and that it does not request certain
information from groups such as anon-profit number and geographic area served
which aids in determining field allocations.
Commissioner Nystrom questioned if this would be updated on annual basis.
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Mx. Benoit shared that it would be looked at yearly.
Commissioner Nystrom would like the fees to be published separately.
Commissioner Anderson asked if the associations would be a part of the policy.
Mx. Benoit explained that the associations could be invited to the January Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting.
Commissioner Anderson asked what kind of timeline staff was looking at far this
project.
Mr. Benoit stated that staff were looking reach approval in 2011.
Commissioner Anderson shared that when the policy was first created there was a
subcommittee and it took six months.
Commissioner Anderson questioned if most groups would have SOlc3 status ox
something else.
Mr. Benoit stated that non-profit status could be clarified with the groups.
Commissioner Niziolek asked how staff would determine timeline.
Mx. Benoit stated that commission would approve status in February and go into
March for permitting. There are pressures from other organizations such as a team
breaking off from an association and creating their own new association.
Coxntrussioner Anderson stated we have several long standing groups and see it
colliding with our programs growing. If we axe serving the same community a city
should not be able to bump a volunteer group to grow.
Commissioner Nystrom asked how much field time is left for group three after
allocations have been made to groups one and two.
Mr. Benoit stated that field usage have been allocated out to groups one, two and
three in the past.
Commissioner Jaker expressed his understanding for staff's eagerness to get the
policy passed. Tightening up the language of policy such as; 501 c3 number does not
always exist, a group can ox may not have a tax exempt number.
Commissioner Niziolek shared his concern that the small groups getting lost with
this policy and not getting any field use.
Commissioner I{arlsen shared that he didn't know there was a deficiency in the
current policy. Prioritization is appropriate for groups one and two and group three
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is cumbersome and excluding many. Get rid of 501 c3 right away and likewise of
insurance policy and advertising. Make an appearance in front of commission.
Councilmember Zerwas shared that the policy is off onto the right track, it isn't
limiting access of a pick-up game in a neighborhood. Concerned if one large group,
such as Three River's Soccer Association had 10% break off and asked for fields.
Councilmember Zerwas continued that the policy is there to serve the most residents
as efficiently as possible, puts a huge burden on staff without a policy with
ambiguity. There is a way to make it work 95% of the groups for 90% of the time.
We can engage the major stakeholders. Reach out to associations first and then meet
in February.
7.2.D. Snowmobile and ATV use in City Parks
Commissioner Anderson expressed his concern about snowmobilers riding around
in the park.
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit stated that concern had been raised regarding the
issue of snowmobile and ATV use in City Parks. Currently signage is posted in key
park areas to educate the public that motorized vehicles are not permitted in parks.
Staff would like feedback regarding other methods in which this issue can be
addressed.
Commissioner Anderson stated that the City has awell-established ordinance and
questioned if that process was still in effect and if each season the permit holders
could be mailed reminders annually to get permit. Resources are being destroyed,
engaging the police to track down the user is not a good use of time. Damage is
being done by a few not many.
Commissioner Niziolek shared that he had several volunteers help plant 1500
seedlings in Meadowvale Heights Paxk and it would be in our best interest to stop
this activity today.
Commissioner Anderson suggested putting up barricades immediately and revisiting
the ordinance.
Councilmembex Zerwas will call the new police chief about this issue of notifying
residents about the concern of snowmobIles in the parks.
Commissioner Anderson expressed that he would like to see a meeting with the
police chief and staff about how to help them enforce this ordinance. Staff should
proceed with awareness campaign.
Commissioner Kaxlsen stated that our enforcement and education fail and we need
to curb the behavior and direct them to the trails they can drive on.
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Commissioner Anderson shared that the current ordinance is detailed on how to get
from one area to the next without entering City parks.
7.2.E. Dog Waste in City Parks
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit shared that a concern has been raised regarding
dog waste left in City Parks. Currently to address this issue dog waste stations have
been placed in park locations that tend to attract a large number of park users with
dogs and literature has been developed to educate the public on the negative impacts
of dog waste left in City parks. Staff would like feedback from Commission
regarding this issue and methods in which it can be addressed.
Commissioner Jakex stated he remembered this issue and questioned how the
information gets out and if part of the issue is that the information doesn't get out.
Mr. Benoit explained that there was good work put into producing the document but
energy dropped off on distribution, this needs a more aggressive approach.
Commissioner Anderson suggested distributing the flyer to area vet clinic, kiosks
however it may not catch the eye of the offenders.
Mx. Benoit stated that it could be given out with dog permits when they axe
purchased.
Coxxunissionex Jakex stated that we need to remember people axe starting to change
and the brochure is for awareness. People need to be inclined to do something
about dog waste. Brochures could also be placed in dog food stores; progress is
slow and will need to figure out a more strategic use of brochure. Encourage
combination of using the brochure, ordinance and public support.
Commissioner I{arlsen stated education goes a long way especially when wearing a
badge. Those that get a license are probably not leaving dog waste.
Commissioner Anderson allowed a resident to make comment
Elk River resident, Emily Eckland, 9728 178"' Ave. NW, stated that she along with
Commissioner Karlsen had no idea }'ou couldn't drive your snowmobile in City
parks and that people probably do not know where they can ride.
Commissioner Anderson thanked Emily for her comments and stated she was spot
on about education and that eve need to do a better job.
Commissioner Niziolek stated that the challenge is how to get the info out.
Ms. Eckland stated that announcements at Elk River High School and Facebook
would be a good place to start.
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7.2.F. Selection process of new Parks and Recreation Director
Commissioner Nystrom expressed a problem with the selection of a Parks and
Recreation Director. First time this position was hired the commission had a bigger
role in the process within each step. He hopes we can regain the opportunity to get
in to the process to help make the selection as that is one of the commission's
functions to advise to the council.
Commissioner Anderson stated that cuxxendy we have the best commission in place
right now and the first director came from this group and the second didn't work
out. Would like to survey the criteria of how the candidate is being selected.
Councilmember Zenvas explained that the opportunity fox the engagement of this
commission in the first director was that the commission helped create the position.
Having coxnrnission and council helping with that initially was necessary to shape the
position. This time around it was viewed as filling a vacancy. City manager reviewed
applications and conducted small scope interviews. Encouxagc commissioners for
feedback to council before the January council meeting.
Commissioner Niziolek stated that the qualifications need to be updated for the
current times.
7.2.G. Hosting a Pond Hockev Tournament
Commissioner Anderson brought the pond hockey tournament issue back to
discussion.
Commissioner Nystrom questioned the logistics and need fox boards.
Commissioner Kaxlsen explained that he didn't anticipate for it to happen this year
and shared more about pond hockey and the association.
Cotntrtissionex Anderson suggested forming a local pond hockey association to
generate a nucleus of support.
8. Information/Update Items
8.1. Community Events
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit showcased the Downtown Holiday Event and the
upcoming Family Fixe & Ice Festival on Jan. 23`x, 2011.
8.2. Park HiPhliehts -None
8.3. Adopt-a-Park
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit shared general Adopt-a-Park program information
and that there are still parks available to adopt.
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9. City Council/Planning Commission Review/Updates
Councihnember Zerwas shared that there will be some reassignments of
councilmembers for liaisons to commissions. December may be his last Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting and wanted to thank staff.
10. Other Business
Commissioner Niziolek shared that he was contacted by individuals who hunted this
year north of County Road 33 and that this was one of their best years for hunting
with the trail closure and working with the city.
11. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:43pm.
~M/in(u~tes p/repared by Tonya Love.
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Tina Allard, City Clerk
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Dave Anderson
Parks and Recreation Commission Chair