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Members Present: Chair Martin, Commissioners Farber, Foss, Halgren, Johnson, Malzahn,
and Polston-Hock
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Arena Manager Rich Czech, Finance and Administrative Services Director
Lori Johnson, Parks and Recreation Director Bill Maertz, and Recording
Secretary Jessica Miller
Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Ella River Ice Arena Commission
was called to order at 6:00 p.m. by Chair Martin.
2. Consider 04/05/05 Ice Arena Commission Agenda
Election of Officers was added to the agenda.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER FARBER TO APPROVE THE APRIL 5, 2005 ICE ARENA
COMMISSION AGENDA AS AMENDED. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
3. Consider Ice Arena Commission Minutes
^ 08/03/2004 Regular Meeting Minutes
^ 09/28/2004 Special Meeting Muiutes
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HALGREN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORK TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 3, 2004
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORK AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER HALGREN TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 28, 2004
SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
4. Ouen Mike
Kent Madsen, 19312°d St NW -stated that he was recently at the Ice Arena in Des Moines,
Iowa and they had pictures of hockey players that played youth or high school hockey at the
Arena that went on to play professional hockey. Mr. Madsen explained that the signs were
made of vinyl and had a current picture of the player along with a brief player history. Mr.
Madsen indicated that he believed the cost of the signs to be approximately $$350.
Parks and Recreation Director Bill Maertz stated that he would check with the Planning
Department in regards to the city's sign ordinance to see if these types of signs would be
allowed.
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Discussion took place and it was the consensus of the Commission that they liked the idea
of having signs displaying former players turned professional at the Arena.
Mi. Madsen stated that he will research the signs further and hopes to come back before the
Commission at the August meeting so the signs could be up before the fall season begins.
4,1. Election of Officers
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MALZAHN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORK TO ELECT THE FOLLOWING
OFFICERS TO THE ICE ARENA COMMISSION FOR 2005:
SECRETARY -DAVE HALGREN
VICE CHAIR -RONALD JOHNSON
CHAIR -DALE MARTIN
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
5. Review 2004 Operating Finances/Current Information on 2005 Financial Status
Finance and Administrative Services Director Lori Johnson reviewed the Account Revenue
and Expenditure Summary. Ms. Johnson reviewed the 2004 financial information and
discussed the transfers from other funds of x$464,537 for the floor and $39,260 to cover the
operating deficit. She indicated that revenues were up considerably from 2003, but at a level
sunilar to 2002, because in 2003 the Bai7z was not in use part of the year because of the floor
problem. She reviewed the draft 2005 budget and indicated that the budget has increased in
2005 mainly due to increased utilitST costs and additional recreational programming. Ms.
Johnson stated that contributions from other CitS~ funds total $1,201,452 from 1997 to 2004.
10. Concession Stand
Parks and Recreation Director Bill Maertz indicated that the city received a request from Elk
River Youth Hockey requesting that the concession stand annual lease amount be lowered.
Mr. Maertz explained that the lease payment began as Ella River Youth Hockey's
contribution to the Arena when a second sheet of ice vas installed after the city took over
operations at the Arena. Mr. Maertz further explained that the Arena cannot afford to lower
the concession stand lease payments when the Arena continues to lose money each year due
to building debt payments.
Mi. Maertz indicated that the city is also concerned that the concession stand has not been
open during many peak times which causes Elk River Youth Hockey to lose money and also
reflects poorly on the Arena.
Commissioner Farber stated that he also doesn't believe the city is in a position to lower the
lease payment of the concession stand. He also stated that if Youth Hockey doesn't have the
ability to keep the concession stand open and staffed during peak hours and varsity games,
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that another way to run the stand should be found as he believes it to be a detriment to the
city if the concession stand is not open.
Commissioner Joluison indicated that the concession stand used to have a concession
manager and part-time employees and used to be quite profitable.
Discussion took place and it was the consensus of the Commission that if Ella River Youth
Hockey would like to keep running the concession stand, that they must make a
commitment to ensure that the stand is open and staffed properly during all varsit~~ games
and other peak ice tunes or die citjT may wish to take over the concession stand operations.
Chair Martu7 asked Corrunissioners Malzahn and Foss to relay this information to Ells River
Youth Hockey.
Commissioner Malzahn indicated that Ells River Youth Hockey is holdiig their annual
business meeting on Apri120 and he will make them aware of the Commission's thoughts on
the concession stand and report back to Arena staff after the meetng.
Commissioner Farber indicated that this is an important topic for the Ice Arena and he
would like to see the Commission hold a special meeting once Elk River Youth Hockey has
made their decision on the concession stand.
Commissioner Johnson stated that when he was involved with Youth Hockey, they did
many fundraisers including boat raffles and pizza sales and that they made a lot of money.
He indicated that die organization is only as strong as their fundraisers and believes drat
Youth Hockey has to have a strong person in charge of fundraising in order to organize and
hold profitable fundraisers.
Judy DeGreef, Fundraising Chair for Elk River Youth Hockey -stated that as a part of
joining Elk River Youth Hockey, parents are required to either volunteer or pay a "buy-out"
amount. She indicated that at this time, many parents would rather pay the amount rather
than spend their time volunteering. She believes that if this "buy-out" rate was increased,
that Youth Hockey would get more volunteers for such thugs as running the concession
stand and for fundraising.
6. Ice Sales
Arena Manager Rich Czech reviewed a chart outlining total ice hour usage by customer for
June 2003 through May 2004 and June 2004 through May 2005. Mi. Czech stated that the
substantial increase in ice hours for the 2004-2005 ice season is largely due to the Barn
having ice on schedule as well as an additional 100 hours of ice time being sold January
through May.
Mr. Czech indicated that Elk River Youth Hockey has requested additional ice time during
the week and in order to accommodate this, ice time would have to be taken from one of the
High School teams which would more than likely be the Becker/Big Lake High School Boys
Hockey Team. Ml. Czech explained that Becker/Big Lake booked 77 hours of ice time last
year, 4 of which were on Saturdays, which leaves 73 hours of weekday ice tune during the
season. Mi. Czech stated that he has been in contact with the Becker/Big Lake Athletic
Director regarding this issue and he is worl~ing on booking ice time at the Monticello rink
but he believes most of Monticello's prime time hours may already be spoken for. Mi. Czech
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indicated that the Arena makes money from the Becker/Big Lake High School games and so
it would be nice to be able to keep their games if they could find practice tune elsewhere.
Commissioner Malzahn questioned if the crunch on weekday ice tune came when Rogers
High School Hockey came on board. Mr. Czech indicated that yes, that is when weekday ice
became hard to get.
Commissioner Johnson expressed concern that the issue comes back to the bottom line on
the budget. IIe questioned if it is in the best interest of the Arena to take back the 77 hours
to accommodate Youth Hockey in turn losing the profit from the Becker/Big Lake games.
Mt. Czech stated that the Arena would be losing approximately X5,000 annually by releasing
Becker/Big Lake games.
Commissioner Farber stated that J/lk River Youth Hockey is bursting at the seams and now
may be the tune to accommodate our own community. Commissioner IIalgren concurred
that the Arena's first priority should be to accommodate organizations within our
community because the Arena was built for the community.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MALZAHN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO WITHDRAW THE WEEKDAY HOURS
FROM BECKER/BIG LAKE HIGH SCHOOL AND OFFER THEM TO ELK
RIVER YOUTH HOCKEY WITH ELK RIVER YOUTH HOCKEY HAVING
FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL FOR THE HOURS AND IF THEY DON'T WANT
THEM, BECKER/BIG LAKE CAN PICK THEM UP. MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
7. Ice Rates
Arena Manager Rich Czech indicated that the ice rates have not been adjusted since the
2003-2004 season. Mi. Czech stated that the current rates are $$145 an hour for prime time
rates and $115 for non-prune time rates and $120 for summer rates. ML. Czech indicated
that after reviewing the 2004 ice rate survey from the Muinesota Ice Arena Manager's
Association, it appears that Elk River is on the lower side of the average hourly rate.
Mi. Czech stated that even increasing the rates by a couple dollars will help make up some of
the debt as well as some of the income being lost by releasing the Becker/Big Lake games.
He noted that the Arena needs to be careful as to not price people out of skating. Mr. Czech
indicated that two things that need to be looked at when considering raising ice rates are
utilities and personnel.
Mi. Czech stated that his recommendation would be to raise the prime trine ice rates to X150
an hour and non-prune trine to $125. He also stated that he is recommending that the off-
season prune tune rates be adjusted to X125 an hour and non-prime time to $95 an hour. Mi.
Czech is recommending that the beginning tithe for prune rate hours be changed to Sunday
at 10:00 a.m. instead of 11:00 a.m. during the regular season. He is also recommends that the
spring season begin after the second weekend in March rather than having a specific date set.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORK TO RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING
CHANGES TO THE ICE RATES:
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REGULAR SEASON: $153.00 PRIME
$125.00 NON-PRIME
OFF SEASON: $125.00 PRIME
$95.00 NON-PRIME
AND FOR THE SPRING SEASON TO BEGIN AFTER THE SECOND
WEEKEND IN MARCH. MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
8. Construction of the Barn Floor
Arena Manager Rich Czech stated that the construction of the Barn's floor went very well.
Mr. Czech explained that during the construction there was one change order because the
radiuses at each end of the rink had to be redone due to d1e concrete in that area being old
and brittle. He indicated that there are a couple of items remaining on the punch list that will
be completed once the ice is removed this spring and the city is retainuig $3,000 to ensure
the work gets completed.
9. Capital Improvement Plan (C.LP.~
Arena Manager Rich Czech stated that there is $40,000 in the 2006 budget to construct a
new Arena Manager's office more centrally located and easier for the public to find. He
stated that the current office is located in the upper level of the Barn in the far southwest
corner and is difficult for the public to locate.
Mr. Czech indicated that as much as an office is needed, he would rather see items
purchased that will generate revenue for the Arena rather than constructing a new office. He
stated that a better utilization of the money may be to purchase indoor turf for the Barn
floor. He stated that the turf costs approximately $70,000 but believes it would pay for itself
in a couple of years. The turf could be used for such events as indoor soccer and indoor
LaCrosse.
Commissioner Halgren questioned when the indoor seasons begin and if ice tune would be
lost if indoor turf was installed on the Barn floor. Mi. Czech indicated that the indoor
seasons run from about the beginning of March to the beginning of May and that the indoor
turf would generate more income per hour than the ice time. He noted that the Barn floor
would be removed early for the turf but the Olympic rink would still have ice available.
Commissioner Polston-Hock indicated that it would be beneficial to get commitments from
organizations that would use the indoor turf prior to purchasing it. She noted that Parks and
Recreation staff is currently in the process of negotiating with a soccer league for use of
outdoor fields.
Chair Martin indicated that he would like to see Mi. Czech explore both the turf and the
office option further and bring additional information for discussion at the August Ice Arena
Commission meeting. The Commission concurred.
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11. Staff Updates
A. Shooting Area
Arena Manager Rich Czech stated that the shooting area that vas completed last fall was
very popular throughout the season. He stated that no fee was charged and the plan is to not
charge a fee again this year. ML. Czech noted that the shooting area was reserved by teams
and the supervision was good.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HALGREN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO RESCIND THE MOTION MADE AT THE
AUGUST 3, 2004, ICE ARENA COMMISSION MEETING STATING THAT
FEES WOULD BE CHARGED FOR USE OF THE ARENA SHOOTING AREA.
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HALGREN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE NO
CHARGE FOR THE ICE ARENA SHOOTING AREA. MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
B. Summer Proiects
Arena Manager Rich Czech stated that this year the Arena added a water softener that
provides soft water throughout the building. ML. Czech indicated that the water softener has
already made a big difference in the condition of the ice as the ice sets up faster and has a
clarity it has never had before. Mi. Czech also noted that the scale that once built up on the
equipment is no longer there, resulting ui a newer looping Zamboni. Mr. Czech also
indicated that this summer the cooling towers chemical treatment plan will be reviewed to
see if the amount of chemicals can be cut down on. He noted that using cooler water to
resurface the ice will also be looked at which would cut down on the gas and electric bills.
Mi. Czech stated that besides the usual cleaning, Arena staff will be painting, installing
rubber matting, installing outlets, and putting up a couple sections of center groove in the
Barn during the sulnlner.
C. D>-yfloor
Mr. Czech reviewed the diyfloor schedule for the summer months.
12. Other Business
There was no other business.
13. Adjournment
There being no further business, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HALGREN AND
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORK TO ADJOURN THE
MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER ICE ARENA COMMISSION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
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The meeting of the Elk River Palk Ice .Arena Commission adjourned at 8:15 p.rn.
Respectfully submitted,
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Jessica Miller
Recording Secretai-~~