08-03-2011 ICE MINMEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
ICE ARENA COMMISSION
HELD AT CITY OF ELK RIVER
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 3RD, 201 16:00 PM
Members Present: Chair Martin, Vice Chair Johnson, Commissioners Foss, Malzahn,
Gumphrey, Barth
Members Absent: Commissioner Niziolek, Arena Assistant Laura Estby
Staff Present: Arena Manager Rich Czech
Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Ice
Arena Commission was called to order at 6:05 p.m. by Chair Martin.
2, Consider 8/3/11 Ice Arena Commission Aeenda
MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER FOSS AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MALZAHN TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 3RD,
2011 ICE ARENA COMMISSION AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
A rove 4/12/11 Ice Arena Commission Minutes
MOTIONED BY VICE CHAIR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER FOSS TO APPROVE THE APRIL 12TH, 2011 ICE
ARENA COMMISSION MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
A rove 5/4/11 Ice Arena Commission Minutes
MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER BARTH AND SECONDED BY
VICE CHAIR JOHNSON TO APPROVE THE MAY 4TH, 2011 ICE
ARENA COMMISSION MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
A rove 6/27/11 Ice Arena Commission Minutes
MOTIONED BY VICE CHAIR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BARTH TO APPROVE THE JUNE 27TH, 2011 ICE
ARENA COMMISSION MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
6• 2011 Financial Update
Arena Manager Czech presents numbers for 2011 Jan-June 30`h. All numbers
are on target for the year to date. Ice rentals projected to be up for the year.
Other income noted is from the bleacher fund. Czech notes that utilities may
be a bit higher due to unexpected warmer weather.
Commissioner Gumphrey inquires about the current building debt service.
Czech notes that it is approximately $200,000 per year which is paid in two
installments, once in July and the remaining December. Debt service on the
building will be completed in December of 2013.
Arena Renovation
Vice Chair Johnson, notes that even though there was not a quorum at the last
commission meeting, a lot was accomplished dialog wise, such as what
communications have been received by the Blue Line Club as well as Youth
Hockey regarding financial commitments, based on the inquiry letter that
Chair Martin sent out.
Chair Martin notes that he has not received any further information from
Youth Hockey or the Blue Line Clubs regarding their financial commitments
to the project as of the meeting.
Johnson notes that the only user groups that we have heard back from are the
Girls Blue line club and the ERFSC, and we understand that the school district
can't give us any information at this time.
Martin notes there will be a special meeting of the Girls Blue Line Club
regarding fundraising, etc. They are on board, just need to decide if a fee will
be added or if they will seek out advertising, etc to raise revenue.
Commissioner Malzahn notes that he spoke to Elk River Youth Hockey
Association President Lyle Slawson who wished to convey that they are
interested in the renovation, however, the financial commitment that was
proposed they felt, was too large for the board to make a decision on, they
would need to get feedback from the membership at large. They are going to
do an online poll to see what the general consensus is. They expect an answer
in the next few weeks. Slawson also wanted to convey that this is in no way a
"no" decision.
Commissioner Gumphrey asked if the Youth Hockey board was member
elected.
Commssioner Malzahn confirms
Commissioner Gumphrey notes that as an elected official it is important to
vote based on the needs of the people, not the political climate at the time. He
expresses his irritation at the lack of decision making/amount of time elapsing
in Youth Hockey's moving forward.
Vice Chair Johnson agrees by saying that Chair Martin sent out the financial
proposal awhile ago, and they are finally now getting to the poll.
Commissioner Malzahn comments if there is any justifiable explanation for
the delay, for the commission to remember that during the summertime, there
are not a lot of meetings.
Arena Manager Czech notes while taking a poll is important, the timing is
also. If the poll is administered early in the season when everyone is very
enthusiastic, it may yield a more favorable response.
Commissioner Gumphrey notes that in Mid-September, the City Council
needs to come up with a maximum levy number they can impose, and they are
stuck with that time frame. If the arena is to be built next year it has to be part
of the levy.
Arena Manager Czech has a meeting with Finance Director Simon so that they
can establish a financial plan to present with the Council based on
contributions by the usergroups, which are incomplete at this time, since we
only have concrete numbers from the Elk River Figure Skating Club.
Commissioner Malzahn inquires as to how the proposed contributions were
figured, was it based on number of hours/amount paid by each group last year.
Arena Manager Czech confirms. Discussion takes place regarding getting a
financial commitment ahead of time from the user groups vs having a user fee
for the ice. He notes that if we add a user fee, it would drive away some of our
smaller customers. However many other arenas do have user fee arrangements
with their larger customers. When other arenas have done expansions, etc,
they have typically had user group arrangements with their big players,
usually a lump sum per year.
Commissioner Malzahn asks Brad Hansen, the Elk River Figure Skating Club
President if he knows how much each skater will be effected by the financial
commitment towards the expansion that they have agreed to.
ERFSC President Hansen states each skater will see approximately a $100-
$125 increase depending on the club's numbers. Skaters have the opportunity
to fundraise to cover the increase.
Commissioner Malzahn notes that he was told the average youth hockey
skater would see about $100 increase, but that President Slawson noted the
fees would not be passed on to the mites, it would be more for the upper
level/traveling players.
Comissioner Barth inquires about the new public works building.
Commissioner Gumphrey says that phase one will begin construction next
year and is already budgeted for, but phase two and the arena would have to
be part of next year's levy. Based on the current commitment proposals from
the arena's customers, the city would have to come up with $650,000/year for
the renovation.
Arena Manager Czech notes that if the expansion doesn't go through, then a
new roof for the barn is going to have to go back into the CIP, it is a problem
that isn't going away.
Chair Martin considers contacting the user groups again regarding
commitments.
Commissioner Gumphrey inquires if there would be more tournaments if there
was an arena renovation.
Arena Manager Czech notes that it takes the right people to spearhead a
tournament, and get it off the ground. Now they have three tournaments each
year, and with the board that they have now, he believes they could get more
tourneys off the ground.
Commissioner Gumphrey inquires about the impact on the Figure Skating
Club if there was a renovation.
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Elk River Figure Skating Club President Brad Hansen notes that they could
apply for regionals, and state (automatic two year deal) and also for testing
sessions. Right now, they do not have any of these competitions due to the
lack of space in the current facility. (No meeting rooms, small lobby, etc)
Commissioner Gumphrey inquires about the impact on the school district if
there was a renovation.
Commissioner Barth notes that it wouldn't be much of a change for them,
because there still would not be enough seats, and to get sectional games the
team also has to qualify, etc, so there is more than just the facility to consider.
Also, that would not be an "every year" option, regardless.
8. Varsity Game Passes/Recognition Nights
Chair Martin notes Girl's Blue Line wants to do a passes for games at a slight
discount. Originally it was done because games in the barn would be to
capacity, and it guaranteed entrance to a game, however since games are in
the Olympic now, that hasn't been as much of an issue.
Commissioner Barth notes that in all other sports, the parent groups do offer
discount passes.
Commissioner Gumphrey believes it's a good idea. He said typically only one
of the parents is able to go anyways, and it helps promote the program.
Arena Manager Czech notes that hockey is unique in that other sporting
events are on school grounds/school buildings and the school district contracts
with the arena to host their hockey games. Because of this, the arena collects
the gate fees, and then refunds the school their portion of ticket sales. He
states what has been done in the past is that the arena creates the pass and sells
it to the parent organization. The Blueline club is looking for $2 off per adult
ticket and $1.50 for seniors/students.
Commissioner Barth notes that the school board has to approve changes to
ticket prices, but he doesn't feel it will be an issue since it has been done in
the past.
Discussion takes place regarding whether the passes should be offered to the
boy's blue line, and if it should be for students or just adults/seniors. Or if the
arena should create the passes and let the blue line decide who they sell them
to.
Commissioner Barth notes that students can currently buy a fall sport pass that
gets them into volleyball, football and soccer, and a winter pass that gets them
into everything except for hockey.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GUMPHREY TO OFFER
DISCOUNTED PASSES TO THE BOYS/GIRLS BLUE LINE CLUBS
AT $2/OFF TICKET PRICE FOR ADULTS, AND $1.50/OFF FOR
SENIORS, WITH NO PASSES OFFERED FOR STUDENTS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FOSS. MOTION PASSES 5-0.
Chair Martin notes, that the Girl's Blue Line Club would like to add a banner
in the arena to advertise their conference championships.
Arena Manager Czech notes that he will work with the GirPs Blue Line Club
to get this done.
Arena Manager Czech notes that we need more notice when there are going to
be recognition nights. There have been several instances where a person is
being recognized, and therefore should be getting in free, and the arena was
not told about it which puts the ticket taker in an awkward position. Since
these recognition nights are designated in advance, Czech just wants to be in
the loop so the arena can notify staff, preferably by the start of the season.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GUMPHREY AND
SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR JOHNSON THAT SPECIAL
RECOGNITION NIGHTS BE FINALIZED AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE SEASON, TO RECEIVE FREE ADMISSIONS. MOTION PASSES
5-0.
9. Outside Banners
Chair Dale Martin states the outside banners need to be replaced. The current
banners were purchased by youth hockey, and Martin is not sure if they would
be willing to put up the money for them again. Chair Martin also notes that
Nate Prosser's mother has approached the arena about having a banner for her
son up as well. Nate has been called up and has been on a roster and has
played.
Arena Manager Czech believes if they are in an NHL jersey, they should be
eligible for the banners.
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Vice Chair Johnson states that when one is added, they should all be replaced,
so that they have equal wear and tear.
Arena Manager Czech notes that when the arena is approached by an
individual or association wanting a banner of an eligible player, the
commission should vote, and if approved it is up to the interested party to find
the financing- whether they work with Youth Hockey or get a sponsor, etc.
Czech also inquires as to whether or not the sponsor should be able to be
noted on the banner. Czech will discuss with City Staff if there are any
policies in place regarding advertising on City Buildings. Arena Manager
Czech would like to see new banners up by this fall if possible- and direction
from the Commission on getting new banners- cost estimate of approximately
$1,000 per banner for purchase and installation.
Chair Martin asks Commissioner Malzahn to discuss the banners with Elk
River Youth Hockey President Lyle Slawson.
Arena Manager Czech discusses the varsity game contract- currently we get
the ftrst $900 and afterwards a 50/50 split of ticket sales. Currently the Rogers
Activity Center gets 100% of the gate.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FOSS AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GUMPHREY TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT FOR
THE ARENA TO GET 100% OFF THE TICKET SALES. MOTION
PASSED 5-0.
10. Summer Tournament
11. Adjournment
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUMPHREY AND SECONDED BY
VICE CHAIR JOHNSON TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION
PASSES 5-0 AT 7:SOPM.
Minutes Prepared by Laura Estby
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Dale Martin, Chair