04-20-2011 ECC MINMEETING MINUTES OF THE ELK RIVER
ENERGY CITY COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
ELK RIVER, MN
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20, 2011
Members Present: Bruce Sayler, Dennis Chuba, John Setala, Vance Zehringer, Tim Steinbeck,
Scott Hagen, Ron Touchette, Stephen Rohlf, and Councilman Matt Westgaard
Members Absent: Ryan Setterholm and Susie Overholser
Staff Present: Rebecca Haug, Environmental Administrator
Nicki Blake-Bradley, Environmental Technician
Ross Pomeroy, GreenCorps, City of Elk River
Annie Deckert, Marketing and Business Development Administrator
Tim Simon, Finance Director
Mark Thompson, Elk River Public Works
Cathy Mehelich, Economic Development Director
Others Present: Pam Anderson, 292 Design Group
Scott Rudie, Nelson-Rudie & Associates
Tim Rybak, Elk River Schools
1. Call Meeting to Order
Chair Zehringer called the meeting to order at 1:34 p.m.
2. Consider Aaril 20, 2011 ECC Agenda
The following items were added to the agenda:
9a. Letter of Support for Greencorps Intern
MOTION TO APPROVE APRIL 20, 2011 AGENDA WITH ONE ADDITION BY COMMISSIONER
SAYLER AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHUBA. ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED.
Consider March 16. 2011 Minutes
Chair Zehringer commented that he had several changes under item number 6c (Energy Efficient
Improvement Programs - YAC lighting projects). He requested the sentence "He continued that
the metal halogen is the most current technology available and will provided higher energy
efficiency." be changed to reflect "He continued that the metal halide is the most current
technology available in this application."
MOTION BY COMMSSIONER CHUBA AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SETALA TO
APPROVE THE MARCH 16, 2011 MINUTES WITH CHANGES. ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION
CARRIED.
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Pam Anderson and Scott Rudie were present to seek input from the Energy City Commission any
discuss the master plan for the Public Works Facility. It is uncertain yet whether the plan will
involve retrofitting and an addition to the existing building or whether an entirely new facility will be
built (while keeping the cold storage building and the current Public Works building). A new facility
would be built to the south side of the lot (if that is the final decision) due to wetland encroachment
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in the other directions. The building is intended to provide offices for both Public Works and Parks
Maintenance staff as well as the repair garage and garage spaces for Parks equipment storage.
The current Public Works building is not large enough for all the offices and equipment and has a
"hodge podge" of heating systems, making it less efficient.
The various heating systems in place were discussed along with the pros and cons of each.
Geothermal heating was discussed as well. Day-Lighting and other fixtures were discussed. Use
of photovoltaics (solar) was considered. Discussion followed regarding economics versus
retrofitting.
CFL (Compact Fluorescent Lightbulbs) versus LED (Light Emitting Diode) applications were
discussed. Chair Zehringer demonstrated the difference between a T-5 fluorescent light and a
similar LED light while discussing energy usage.
Councilmember Westgaard questioned whether any commissioners have experience or
knowledge of overhead doors versus bi-fold doors or roof space needs. Commissioner Chuba
discussed barjoists and recommended the roof be engineered for solar panels. White roofs were
discussed as well. Commissioner Sayler commented that Connexus has a number of bi-fold doors
and invited the commission to visit.
Commissioner Touchette requested a list of opportunities from Ms. Anderson and Mr. Rudie for
discussion. Chair Zehringer would like an open dialog with the designers before the final decisions
are made.
5. EDA's Proposed Energv Efficiency Loan Program
Cathy Mehelich was present to discuss the Economic Development Authority's (EDA) proposed
energy efficiency revolving loan program as detailed in the draft attached to the packet. The EDA
has authorized the programs developed by staff. Grants have been applied for that would be
loaned out on a rotation. The Utilities Commission has reviewed and offered comments. This
program would be available to owners of buildings (not tenants) for industrial and commercial
buildings only for up to $74,999 at 4% fixed rate for up to five years (special circumstances may
allow a 10year re-payment). Discussion followed regarding review, type of construction (new vs.
remodel) and risk assessment. Any further comments or questions should be directed to Ms.
Mehelich or Rebecca Haug via a-mail.
6. Energv Expo Discussion
Ross discussed the results memo that was supplied with the packet. A survey was passed out to
the participants at the door. 51 % of the respondents lived outside Elk River and were new to the
Expo. 78.7% were aware that Elk River is Energy City. Approximately 600 people attended.
Unfortunately, Ron Schara was not a large draw.
Chair Zehringer noted that cities like Coon Rapids are starting to hold events like the Energy
Expo. On April 30th they will have Don Shelby speak. Ramsey and Brooklyn Park are also
following suit. With other Cities taking up the charge, and based upon logistics, Chair Zehringer
questioned whether the Energy Expo should continue.
Ms. Haug commented that the ECFE (Early Childhood Family Education) representatives had an
overwhelmingly positive experience with the kids and families that attended. Discussion followed
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regarding using the Parks and Recreation Program Guide and/or Constant Contact to get the
word out to larger audiences. A suggestion was made to "keep it fresh" or a program will die out.
Chair Zehringer commented that he is not a fan of partnering with the Business Expo because he
feels the purpose of the Energy Expo would be diluted.
Commissioner Sayler questioned whether there is a "drop-dead date". For a decision about
whether to hold next year's event, Ms. Haug stated that it should be made soon. Chair Zehringer
stated that the decision should be made at the next meeting. Commissioner Touchette suggested
thinking about offering the Expo every other year.
7. Phase II 8~ Phase III Proiect Conserve
Phase II is at the half way mark and 104 residences were audited. A total of 33,248 Kilowatt hours
were saved for an average of 6% savings on electricity and 1,000 therms of natural gas for an
average of 2.1 % savings in the first five months of the project. Water use increased over 5%
overall but the percentage of people saving water was greater than those who increased water
consumption. Project Conserve Phase II has some very dedicated participants. 10% of the
participants have already saved over 20% on electricity, 9% have saved over 20% on water, and
9% have saved over 10% on natural gas (all in the first five months) for a total average savings of
$110 each.
Chair Zehringer expressed disappointment that the percentages were not higher but conceded the
fact that Phase I did not look at results until the end of the project timeline. There is still time for
participants to increase savings.
A question was raised as to whether the data was corrected for heating and cooling degree days.
The data was corrected for heating and cooling degree days. The final workshops will be held in
September.
Phase III is moving ahead and will target apartment dwellers and commercial buildings. A
comment was made that the auditors are not currently trained for commercial energy audits at this
time.
8. Ordinance Amendments
Ms. Haug commented that there has been discussion in the past toward changing the structure of
the ordinance due to having a smaller group. Changes centered on possibly changing term limits
to stagger times as well as increasing detail on the purpose of the Energy City Commission.
Commissioner Rohlf raised a question about requirements for being a commissioner. Ms. Haug
stated that the verbiage states that it would be open to people who would be able to further the
purpose of the Energy City Commission, which is defined in the ordinance as well.
Commissioner Touchette praised the verbiage and added that he would like to keep the number of
commissioners between 7 - 15 people. Commission Setala commented that with a larger group, it
is harder to reach a quorum. Chair Zehringer commented that he supports verbiage "up to" with
regard to the number of commissioners allowed.
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Ms. Haug added that the ordinance does not stipulate a time so the meeting time could be
changed. Discussion followed concerning holding the meeting at 8:30 a.m. rather than in the
evening.
MOTION TO ADOPT THE REVISED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS DISCUSSED AND
WRITTEN BY COMMISSIONER SETALA AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SAYLER. ALL IN
FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION TO CHANGE THE TIME OF THE MEETING TO 8:30 A.M. WHILE KEEPING THE
FREQUENCY THE SAME BY COMMISSIONER TOUCHETTE AND SECOND BY
COMMISSIONER STEINBECK. MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL BUT COMMISSIONER CHUBA
VOTING AYE (COMMISSIONER CHUBA VOTED NAY).
Ms. Haug will send an updated a-mail that the next regularly scheduled meeting will be held on
May 18, 2011 at 8:30 a.m. in the Uppertown Conference Room.
Nuclear Energy Discussion
Chair Zehringer stated that he presented to classes at St. Cloud State University as a proponent
of nuclear energy. Because the Monticello Excel nuclear power plant is the same type of reactor
as the Fukushima reactors in Japan, he suggested inviting a speaker from Xcel to address the
issue of security at that plant. He followed by showing and discussing the power point
presentation of his information to the Energy City Commission. Discussion of increasing prices
followed.
9a. Letter of Suuport for GreenCorps Member
Ms. Haug referred to the application for a GreenCorps member, which has been so well filled by
S. Ross Pomeroy, and asked for support through a letter from the commission to request a
second GreenCorps member to carry on the work with Project Conserve Phase III.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STEINBECK AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SAYLER TO
HAVE CHAIR ZEHRINGER SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR A GREENCORP MEMBER IN
THE 2011-2012 SESSION. ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED.
10. Schedule Next ECC Meeting IMav 181 and Identify Agenda Items
The next meeting will be held May 18, 2011 at the Elk River City Hall in the Upper Town
Conference Room at 8:30 a.m. Items for the agenda include:
• Wind Turbine Ordinance
Approval of April 20, 2010 Minutes
11. Adjournment
Since there were no further topics for discussion, Chair Zehringer adjourned the meeting at 3:37
p. m.
Minutes prepared by Nicki B e-Bradley
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Tina Allard
City Clerk
Vance Zehring
Energy City ommiss n Chair