11-13-2012 BOA MIN • SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 2012
Members Present: Chair Anderson,Commissioners Bell,Johnson,Keller,Knoitezko and
Westberg
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Planning Manager Jeremy Barnhart,Planner/Park Planner Chris Leeseberg
and Recording Secretary Debbie Huebner
1. Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Board of Adjustments
was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Chair Anderson.
2. Consider 11/13/12 Board of Adjustments Agenda
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY
• COMMISSIONER WESTBERG TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 13,2012
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
3. Request by Cornerstone Auto Resource for Variance to City's Land Use Regulating relating
to Signs in the C3 Highway Commercial District,Public Hearing—Case No.V 12-02
The staff report was presented by Jeremy Barnhart. The applicant submitted a variance to
allow 11 wall signs totaling 506 square feet. He noted that the request for the Mahindra
badge has been withdrawn,so the total signage requested is now 440 square feet. Mr.
Barnhart reviewed the ordinance requirements, and explained that the applicant argues the
site has three separate businesses at the site. The applicant states that signage requirements
are placed on them by each of the brand"owners"and that Cornerstone will not be allowed
to sell the various brands if they do not meet their sign requirements.
Mr.Barnhart reviewed the variance criteria,noting that the applicant must provide proof of
practical difficulties. Staff recommended denial of the variance since the request is not in
harmony with the intent of the city's ordinance,nor does it satisfy practical difficulties.
Chair Anderson asked if the pylon signage is also being reviewed. Mr.Barnhart stated no.
He noted that the tower with the Elk River Ford Dodge Jeep Ram signage will be taken
down.
Chair Anderson opened the public hearing.
Stephen Rohlf,representing the applicant(17219 Highway 10), stated that the signage on the
41111 tower to be removed totals 448 square feet;the Mahindra sign of 40 square feet in not
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needed, and the business sign to be removed is 40 square feet,for a reduction in existing
signage of 528 square feet. Mr.Rohlf explained that the three businesses are separate •
entities with separate sales and service personnel. He explained that each of the franchises
require separate signage with branding requirements dictating the color and size of signage,
and even the color of the furniture in their showroom area. Mr.Rohlf stated that he felt the
hardship is that if they are not able to provide all the required signage, they will lose some of
the business franchises. Mr.Rohlf stated that the letter from the Chrysler Group manager
states that of the 15 states where they have the four franchises (Chrysler,Dodge,Jeep and
Ram),they have never been restricted from having the four signs.
Commissioner Konietzko asked if there will be separate showrooms for the four franchises.
Mr.Rohlf stated yes. Commissioner Konietzko suggested the applicant provide the
information to the city attorney for an opinion on the issue.
Mr.Barnhart stated that other businesses would like to have separate signage for multiple
businesses within a building. Mr.Rohlf stated that the businesses are three separate
corporations which are paying rent.
Commissioner Johnson asked the applicant how many licenses have been issued to them.
Mr.Rohlf stated that he is not aware if it is one license or three licenses. Commissioner
Johnson asked if all the businesses fold into the one corporation. Mr.Rohlf stated no,that
they are all separate.
Chair Anderson asked if signage on the reader board is up for discussion. Mr.Barnhart
stated no.
There being no one else to speak to this issue,Chair Anderson closed the public hearing. •
Commissioner Bell asked how signage for Cub is related to this issue. Mr.Barnhart
explained that CUB Foods is located in a PUD,and that other businesses within the building
are not allowed to have signage on the outside. He stated they are allowed 2 signs, at 200
square feet. He stated it is up to the property owner how to disburse the signage.
Commissioner Bell asked why Ashley Furniture,the Furniture Outlet and JoAnn Fabrics all
have their own sign and are in the same PUD. Mr.Barnhart stated that there is a distinction
between property in the C3 zoning district and a PUD. He explained that PUD's are
negotiated and there is a"give and take".
Commissioner Johnson stated that the applicant has a very powerful argument that the
request meets the spirit and intent of the ordinances. He stated that overall, the applicant is
getting closer to the allowed signage requirement with the reduction in signage area.
Commissioner Konietzko stated that he felt an auto dealership is very different from other
types of businesses regarding signage. Commissioner Johnson asked if a variance was really
needed. Commissioner Westberg asked if the badges could be combined,or if a specific
square footage is required. Mr.Rohlf stated that the franchises dictate what they require
based on the elevations of the site. He stated that since there is no wall separating the
businesses they are similar to a mall,with three separate entrances.
Commissioner Westberg stated that he was in favor of trying to find a way for the signage to
be approved. Mr.Rohlf stated that the Board of Adjustments has the authority to approve
the variance. •
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Commissioner Konietzko asked why the tower is being removed. Mr.Rohlf explained that
• the business is no longer that name and is now Cornerstone Auto Resource instead of the
Elk River Ford Dodge Jeep.
Mr.Barnhart stated that the applicant can choose to have more signs or fewer larger signs,
but that there are already more signs than the four businesses. He stated that although the
Mahindra sign is going away,he questioned what the next signage variance may be. He
stated that business has already been allowed more free-standing signage due to the long
length of highway frontage. Mr.Barnhart stated that the applicant has not satisfied the
requirement that he demonstrate uniqueness.
Chair Anderson asked if the ordinance needs to be looked at, since there has been variance
after variance for this property.
Commissioner Konietzko stated that he feels car lots are unique. He stated he is in favor of
approving the variance to adjust the signage square footage to meet the current need. He
stated that he often sees car dealerships with multiple signs. He stated that he could imagine
a lot of confusion for the clients if they didn't know which area to go to for a particular
brand of vehicle.
Commissioner Westberg stated that an option would be to have window signage. He did
not feel the city was imposing undue restrictions on the property. He stated he would like to
see the applicant go forward and be successful.
Commissioner Bell stated that he did not feel window signage is a good idea. He stated that
is a unique situation and the applicant is asking for something unique.
• Commissioner Westberg stated that he like the architectural design of the proposed addition.
Commissioner Bell stated that when shopping for vehicles,he looks for signage to help
identify where specific brands are available. He stated that he felt it makes sense to manage
the business as one large dealership.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER KONIETZKO AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY
CORNERSTONE AUTO RESOURCE FOR A VARIANCE TO THE SIGN
REGULATIONS TO ALLOW 440 SQUARE FEET OF ADDITIONAL WALL
SIGNAGE. MOTION CARRIED 4-2. Chair Anderson and Commissioner Westberg
opposed.
4. General Business—None
5. Adjournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING.
The meeting of the Elk River Board of Adjustments adjourned at 7:23 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Debbie Huebner.
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