08-06-2002 ICE MIN MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
ICE ARENA COMMISSION
HELD AT LIONS PARK CENTER
TUESDAY, AUGUST 6, 2002
Members Present: Chair Martin, Commissioners Johnson,Tveite,Aro,and Halgen
Members Absent: Commissioners Madsen and Briggs
Staff Present: Rich Czech,Arena Manager;Pat Klaers, City Administrator;Jessica Miller,
Recording Secretary
1. Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Ice Arena Commission
was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chair Martin.
The meeting started late because the Commission toured the Ice Arena.The 1 hour tour
(between 6 and 7 p.m.) included observing: the barn floor in the process of having some
leaks repaired (the pipes in the floor leak refrigerant if cracked); the upstairs area of the barn
where the bleachers were removed; the locker rooms; and the zamboni/compressor/ice
plant area.
2. Consider.08/06/02 Ice Arena Commission Agenda
COMMISSIONER TVEITE MOVED TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 6, 2002, ICE
ARENA COMMISSION AGENDA. COMMISSIONER ARO SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
3. Consider Minutes of April 2.2002 Ice Arena Commission Meeting
COMMISSIONER TVEITE MOVED TO APPROVE THE APRIL 2,2002, ICE
ARENA COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
4. Open Mike
No one appeared for Open Mike.
5. Review 2001 Operating Finances,Current Information on 2002 Financial Status, and
Proposed 2003 Budget
City Administrator Pat Klaers reviewed the financial information with the Commission. The
2001 financial information was covered at the April meeting and there were no additional
questions. Mr. Klaers indicated that the Arena operation is making money but a loss is
shown because operating profits are not sufficient to cover the annual building debt
payments. Mr. Klaers stated that he would like to see the numbers balance so that the ciry'ss
only contribution to the Arena would he for capital overlay.
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Mr. Klaers distributed the proposed 2003 budget and stated that the Arena is not asking for
many additions for the 2003 budget;however, Ice Arena Manager Rich Czech is requesting
some part-time office help. This 20 hour a week position would work at City Recreation a
majority of the time but would work for the Arena in the Spring and Fall, right around the
time the Break-A-Way leagues start and registrations take place for the Skating Academy
Programs . The Arena would take approximately 240 hours a year. This help is from a
Recreation Department requested position that has yet to be considered by the Council.
The Commission accepted the budget as proposed and acknowledged that a general fund
transfer is required to balance the revenues with the expenditures and debt payment.
6. Review the Status of South End of the Barn
The bleachers at the south end of the Barn were removed last Summer and this portion of
the building remains vacant. Mr. Czech stated that the city is not in a huge hurry to do
anything with this area.At the last meeting Commissioner Madsen stated that he would
speak to Youth Hockey about any interest they may have in building office space in this area
but he was not in attendance at this meeting to give an update.
7. Refrigeration Leak
The Arena had a major refrigeration leak in the Olympic ice plant that ended up costing the
Arena approximately$6,500 in refrigerant alone. It is believed that the pipe split was caused
by the vibration from the number two compressor which in turn caused the refrigeration
leak. Measures are being taken to prevent the vibration and another leak.
S. Arena/Ice Rink Usage Policy
Mr. Czech stated that he is concerned about the ice damage that some of the players are
causing that leaves the ice in poor condition for the next group of skaters. The Arena does
its best to fix the damage but the short intervals in between skating hours is not enough time
to repair extensive damage and this has caused skating hours to be delayed for repairs. Poor
ice conditions could also lead to liability issues for the city if a skater were to get hurt.
Mr. Czech also expressed concern about the players spitting on the floors and walls and the
excessive garbage that is sometimes left. The problems are primarily in the locker rooms.
The Commission adopted operating policies in August of 1999 but these problems were not
addressed at that time.A general janitorial fee is covered but these issues would go over and
above that. It was the consensus of the Commission that additional fees should be added to
the Operating Policy to cover extensive ice repair and excessive janitorial expenses.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE ADDITION OF
THE FOLLOWING FEES FOR EXCESSIVE ICE DAMAGE INCURRED BY
SKATERS AND FOR EXCESSIVE GARBAGE AND SPITTING IN LOCKER
ROOMS:
1. ANY ICE TIME LOST FOR NECESSARY ICE REPAIRS WILL BE
CHARGED AT THE RATE THE ICE WAS RENTED AT -PLUS-
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2. LABOR WILL BE CHARGED AT $20.00/HOUR WITH A 1 HOUR
MINIMUM CHARGE—PLUS-
3. RESURFACING WILL BE CHARGED AT $5.00 PER RESURFACE
PER MACHINE—PLUS-
4. IF OTHER CHARGES ARE INCURRED THEY WILL BE CHARGED
ACCORDING TO THE EXPENSES.
COMMISSIONER TVEITE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
The Commission also agreed that Mr. Czech should meet with the High School Athletic
Director as a courtesy and make him aware of the policy change.
There was some discussion regarding implementing a security deposit for ice usage but it
was agreed that Mr. Czech should see how this policy change works and the additional
deposit can be implemented at a later date if needed.
9. Ice Usage Update
Mr. Czech reviewed ice usage and rental reports with the Commission. Mr. Czech also
prepared a report showing how the hourly ice rental rates have changed since 1997. The
Arena may need to look at raising their ice rental rates at the end of the season. Mr. Czech
will provide the Commission with additional rate information from other communities at the
Spring meeting.
10. Beverage Contract
The Arena beverage contract will be up next September and Mr. Czech would like the
Commission to start thinking about what they would like out of a new contract. He asked
the Commission to bring any suggestions to the Spring meeting. Mr. Czech stated that he is
happy with the service that Bernicks Pepsi has supplied and would like to renew a contract
with them.The Commission suggested that Mr. Czech check with the local Coke distributor
to see what they can offer as this may make it easier to negotiate with Bernicks.
11. Staff Updates
A. Sign Sales —Mr. Czech has been unsuccessful in his attempts to contact North Memorial
regarding the renewal of their advertising on the Zamboni and said it is unlikely that they will
continue this advertising. Commissioner Halgren suggested that Mr. Czech contact Allina
Health Care to see if they would be interested. The VFW has looked at expanding their
advertising but to what extent is not yet known. The Arena is also going to start bathroom
advertising soon which will be a cheaper option for people looking to advertise.The Arena
has made a deal with Ramsey Bicycle to swap advertising for merchandise. Ramsey Bicycle
will advertise and in turn the Arena will purchase merchandise from them for door prizes
and promotions.
B. Summer Projects—Mr. Czech stated that the following projects have been completed so
far this summer:
• The roof over the old Zamboni room has been replaced.
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• Two sections of the boards of the Olympic rink were moved at the south
end of the rink which should make the public access gate much easier to
open and close.
• The Olympic players hallway, the lobby, and two of the locker rooms in the
Olympic rink have been painted.
• New plywood was installed in the floor of the player's boxes in the Barn
along with matting in the player's hallway of the Barn.
Two of the upcoming projects for the Arena are the installation of new matting in the main
walkway and two of the locker rooms in the Barn and the replacement of light fixtures in the
Barn.
C. Dryfloor—The Arena has hosted many activities on the dry floor of the Arena.Mr.
Czech stated that the Spring Arts &Craft Fair went well.The Jose Cole Circus did not do as
well this year but Mr. Czech believes that it will rebound and do better next time as it has
done well in past years. The Arena made an agreement with the sponsor of the circus,Elk
River Blue Line Club, that all of the circus profits would be split in half.The Business Expo
will probably be moved back to the High School next year after its construction is completed
because they can offer more space.The Arena doesn't have a lot of dry floor space because
the Olympic rink is sand base and cannot be used. The Arena did look at purchasing a
product called"Ice Deck"but the cost would be about$29,000. Mr. Czech indicated that if
the Arena were going to put that kind of money into an improvement staff would like to
look at putting in soccer turf.
D. Rink Floor of the Barn—The Commission toured the Arena prior to this meeting to
look at the condition of the floor.The floor is leak checked every year and when it was
checked this year several leaks were found. Some of these leaks are hard to detect possibly
because they are so small and may be leaking downwards rather than upwards since the leaks
take the path of least resistance.The Arena staff is in the process of repairing the leaks and
are carefully watching for others.
12. Other Business
There was no other business.
13. Adjournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER ARO SECONDED THE
MOTION.THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Park Ice Arena Commission adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
lei V (la
Jessica Miller
Recording Secretary