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10.1. SR 09-02-2014 City of Elk Request for Action River To Item Number Mayor and City Council 10.1 Agenda Section Meeting Date Prepared by Work Session September 2, 2014 T.John Cunningham,Fire Chief Item Description Reviewed by Enforcement Update for Placement of Signs Tina Allard, City Clerk Reviewed by Cal Portner, City Administrator Action Requested None unless otherwise directed by Council. Background/Discussion At the May 5,2014, meeting of the City Council, Council asked staff to report back at a later date on the educational and enforcement efforts underway pertaining to the city's sign ordinance. Since then, Council and staff have received only a handful of inquiries and formal complaints regarding the enforcement of signage in the public right-of-way (ROW). There have also been a few letters from readers printed in the local paper. Educational programs, outreach, and enforcement Over the past year, staff has embarked on an aggressive educational campaign to help inform residents and businesses as to the proper locations for sign placement. This collaborative effort included articles in the city newsletter,the Elk River Current,updates on the city website, a TV/YouTube informational video, and a printed brochure available at City Hall. The city code enforcement officer has proactively educated residents hosting garage sales as he comes across them in the course of following up on other citizen concerns. Staff has also enforced the ordinance and,as is past practice, stored illegally placed signs at the Maintenance Facility where residents/businesses can claim them at a later date. The enforcement of the city sign ordinance (5 30-859) is mostly complaint-driven. When a complaint is received, that specific area is checked for compliance and any illegally placed signs are removed. The time spent on sign enforcement is mixed in along with other resident-driven nuisance complaints. Options At the June 3, 2013, meeting of the Elk River City Council, staff presented Council with three options to consider pertaining to the existing city ordinance. A copy of the staff report is attached hereto. At that time,it was the consensus of the Council to leave the existing ordinance in place but to conduct additional education outreach as previously outlined. Staff is seeking direction from Council on any desired changes or updates to the city's sign ordinance. Financial Impact To date, staff has invested over 45 hours in developing educational and outreach material. P a w E A E U s r Template Updated 4/14 INIM UREI Attachments • June 3, 2013, Staff Report • Tri-fold informational brochure • Spring Elk River Current article • Summer Elk River Current article • Letter from Mae Thompson (received April 29, 2014) • Letter from Gayle Fox (received June 17, 2014) • MnDot press release (April 24, 2014) • Article from IndyWeek, City says anti-sheriff signs are legal N:\PublicBodies\Agenda Packets\09-02-2014\Final\x10.1 sr Enforcement Update for Placement of Signs.docx /i Elk REQUEST FOR ACTION Fiver TO ITEM NUMBER Mayor and City Council 8.3 AGENDA SECTION MEETING DATE PREPARED BY General Business June 3, 2013 John Cunningham,Fire Chief ITEM DESCRIPTION REVIEWED By Sign Ordinance Cal Portner, City Administrator REVIEWED BY ACTION REQUESTED • Review and discuss current ordinance language pertaining to prohibited signs. • Direct staff for further action,if any,regarding revisions to city ordinance(s). BACKGROUND/DISCUSSION The city's Code Enforcement Division,under the direction of the fire chief,is responsible for enforcing city ordinances pertaining to, among other things, zoning, quality of life, aesthetics, exterior maintenance and signage. The division works closely with planning and other city staff to ensure that city ordinances are applied equally and fairly without prejudice. In addition to addressing complaints from citizens and businesses, the division also proactively addresses public safety concerns, such as snow removal, and prohibited activity such as illegal signage, blight, and other community-wide concerns. Recently, staff and some Councilmembers have fielded questions regarding the enforcement of signage within the city limits,particularly regarding garage sales, special events, and other activities. In accordance with § 30-859 of the Elk River City Code,the following types of signs,in part,are illegal: • Signs attached to trees,utility poles,public benches,or streetlights, or placed on any public property or public right-of-way. • Signs placed on vehicles or trailers which are parked or placed for the primary purpose of displaying the sign, except for portable signs or lettering on buses, taxis, or vehicles operating during the normal course of business. • Any sign placed within 30 feet of any intersection that may obstruct motorist or pedestrian visibility. Staff regularly assists residents and businesses in finding legal alternatives for posting signs and announcements,including,when required,providing applications for permits,which require further review and consideration. Much of the city's enforcement activity, however, often involves signage located in the public right-of-way and signs placed in/near an intersection,both of which are prohibited under city ordinance. Similarly, state statutes (160.2715 and 173.15) regulate signs in the right-of-ways for "limits of any highway" and "interstate system of highways." City ordinance does not provide for any exceptions, such as for garage or rummage sales. PV0WIAEU 0y N:\Public Bodies\Agenda Packets\06-03-2013\Fina1\x8.3 sr sign ordinance F.docx NUR Right-of-way City ordinance prohibits the placement of signs in the public right-of-way. The right-of-way refers to a strip of land which is used as a transportation corridor. The land is acquired as an easement or in fee, either by agreement or condemnation. The actual width/location of a right-of-way varies and depends on the actual street. For example,School Street near Parker Elementary has a width of approximately 75' and 120'. At the 75'width,there is no right-of-way behind the sidewalk but at the 120'width there is about 20' of right-of-way on the south side. A typical residential street has a 60' right-of-way with 15' of landscaped area on each side of the 30'wide street. ork r Background and Enforcement The purpose of signage is to attract attention and to promote a good or service. As such,the placement of signs is often just as important as the message it is trying to convey. Most cities,however,regulate the placement of signage as a means to not only control visual aesthetics but to ensure that signs do not create public safety concerns by blocking site lines, creating distractions or generating litter. Restricting N:\Public Bodies\Agenda Packets\06-03-2013\Final\x8.3 sr sign ordinance F.docx the placement of signs within the public right-of-way is a means in which many of the aforementioned concerns are addressed. Much of the city's enforcement action pertaining to signs involves the public right-of-way. When signs are removed they are taken to the city maintenance facility where the public can retrieve them during normal business hours. Signs located within either a county or state right-of-way are often removed by the respective jurisdiction in which there is often no recourse to reclaim the sign. While staff works diligently to enforce various city ordinances, such enforcement action is limited by staff availability and resources. Staff, however,will enforce city ordinances equally and fairly. Topics for Discussion The purpose of this discussion is to provide a brief overview of the city's current sign ordinance and to get Council direction to modify or expand the scope of the city's current ordinances pertaining to signs. Some options for Council to consider include: 1. Leaving the existing city code in place. 2. Abolishing restrictions on signage,in whole or in part. 3. Allowing for additional exemptions within the city code. Some cities, such as Maple Grove,have included language in their ordinance to allow for the posting of certain types of signs in the public right-of-way. As an example, � 24-6 of the Maple Grove Code of Ordinances reads,in part: 69 Placement of signs on right-of-way or public land. (1)No sign other than governmental signs shall be erected orplaced for any period of time within or upon any public land except as may be author'.Zed in this subsection. (2) Only governmental signs, signs for a rummage sale posted no more than 120 hours in any eight-day period and signs advertising the sale of real estate between the hours of 6.00 p.m. Friday to 6.00 a.m. Monday may be erected orplaced within any public right-of-way or easement. No nongovernmental sign shall be placed in a public right-of-way abutting private propery unless permission to place such a sign is first obtained from the owner, occupant or other person having control of the abutting private property. (3)Any sign other than governmental signs remaining on such property in excess of 120 hours in any eight-day period, orplaced for any length of time in violation of subsection (2)of this subsection, may be summany removed by the city or othergovernmental agency owning such public right-of-way or easement and, at its discretion, destroyed. Based on the feedback and direction from Council, staff will bring back this item for future discussion, including possible ordinance changes and forecasted financial and/or staffing impacts. FINANCIAL IMPACT None ATTACHMENTS None N:\Public Bodies\Agenda Packets\06-03-2013\Final\x8.3 sr sign ordinance F.docx �j 3 May 30, 2013 City Council c/o The City of Elk River 13065 Orono Parkway Elk River, MN 55330 Dear City Council Members, I would like to appeal to you in regard to the law that requires garage/yard sale signs to not be in right-of-ways. I only became aware of this law last week when a nice lady came to my door to ask me if I'd seen a sale sign that had been left near my home last week. She was very upset. She went on to tell me that the City has been removing garage sale signs all over town. I thanked her for telling me because I had been confused several times that week as I went looking for garage sales around town. I have lived in Elk River for almost 10 years, and this is the first that I have ever heard of in regards to this law, and it is the first year that I have ever seen it enforced. I beg you on behalf of those who need to make some extra money and for those who utilize garage sales to buy many of the things that they need that you repeal this law or add an amendment that would allow garage sale signs to remain up. Elk River is the best town that I've ever found to garage sale in. The people are friendly, and the sales are abundant and reasonably priced. Please don't change our town by making it harder to have these sales. Respectfully, Carrie Hub 303 Proctor Avenue Elk River, MN V1 c� 4W W QA•� 1�1 ZE W O �CL o. '� D dl slow O �� bp T k.0 z °� ° � LW .� 3 J µa�� Q i (� 40. N lYll� � � Q a S nC% a +�] W o 13sniVNI we a3a3roa no-'d'XWzanjjRIgmmm AT� OSSSS `zanH JJH -Vvl"Jud OUOJO S90£I by.� IS � d U O O N 0 s4 s4 t O 7E 1-4 � a� � s-a O f:,_ C:" ct a� f� O p O � p 0 s- O d O s- U Ct s O a� a� v s O f� U � ^� n O O O ct u bIJ O 0 � o p ct -zi v cn . o �: ru a� Q v� 12 � �-4 w 4 -W 7 5 `�. u� Q ac a G� s ■ tp En w 4J ai 01. _ I ■ aj M.4 I urrent Powered Where Can I Put My Signs? Signs are often an effective and important marketing tool to draw attention to a garage sale,graduation Annual Pet Vaccination party, special event,or social function.just as i and Licensing Clinic important as the message on the sign is its placement. G A sign that isn't clearly visible is difficult to see.To page 3 ensure your event is a success, here are a few key points to consider when placing signs: —" ■ Signs may only be placed on private property Elk River Residential and not in what is considered the public right Clean Up Day of way. Generally speaking,the right-of-way is approximately 10'from the curb line as shown in Le end "1 the picture to the right. °Xpz� lu 7 ■ Signs may not be affixed to trees, utility poles, P= .`en�n public benches,or streetlights. ■ Signs may not block motorist or pedestrian sight Rivers Edge lines. Concert Series ■ Signs may not have flashing and/or revolving beacon lights. page 14 ■ Signs need to be retrieved after an event is concluded. ■ Signs must be four square feet or less. Signs which are illegally placed are subject to removal and disposal. Signs that are removed by city staff are brought to the Maintenance Facility(19000 Proctor Road)where they can be retrieved during normal business hours(the exception being signs that may be removed by the county and/or state). Oty of El i Cigarettes and Discarded Lost and Found Bicycles Embers Causing Firest Each year the Police Department takes in dozens of found bicycles.The vast From July 1,2013,through April 30, 2014,carelessly abandoned or majority are never claimed by their discarded materials have caused over$2 million in fire damage within owners. If your bicycle is missing, the Elk River fire district.The most common cause of fire was smoking contact the Police Department at materials. In each case,residents suffered an incredible loss of their home 763.635.1260 to inquire if we have it. and irreplaceable family and household items.Thankfully,we have yet to suffer a fatality due to something that is entirely preventable! Please use Be prepared to describe the bicycle care when abandondingldiscarding cigarettes and charcoals. in as much detail as possible,and preferably have the serial number To keep you and your family safe, available.We would be happy to keep the following safety tips in mind: - reunite you with your bike! • There is no such thing as a"safe"cigarette.Always dispose of a cigarette in a non-combustible ashtray. Never put an ashtray on a Garage Sale Signs sofa or chair. Used plastic food containers are not ashtrays! • Make sure cigarettes and ashes are out by soaking them in water Are garage sale signs allowed in Elk River? before throwing them away. Never assume they are out. Yes! Residents are permitted to place garage sale and other signage on • Check for areas in your home and car where cigarette butts could fall. private property with the owner's permission.Signs may not be placed in • Allow fireplace ashes to cool before disposal (this could be days). the public right-of-way(ROW),which is approximately 10'from the curb Place ashes in a tightly covered metal container and keep the line, including intersections of local,county,and state roadways. container at least 10 feet away from your home and any other nearby ROW regulations protect utilities, pedestrian,and motorist sight lines, buildings. Douse and saturate the ashes with water. NEVER empty the and maintain community aesthetics.The regulations apply equally to all ash directly into a trash can! types of signage, private and commercial. • If you live in a townhome or apartment building, remember your actions impact the lives of others. The city reviewed its sign ordinance in 2013 and explored options to allow for the broader display of signage for private sales and events. By law,the city can't discriminate between types of signage in the ROW. Notify Me Therefore, if"neighborly'garage sale signs are allowed,commercial Sign up on our website under ElkRiverMN.gov, signage and/or"un-neighborly"signs would also be protected when ® hover over"How Do I"and select"Get Notified- posted in the city ROW. E-Notifications." MnDOT and Sherburne County maintains the ROW along state and r You'II stay connected with city meeting dates and county roads within the community and they do not tolerate signs in agendas,employment opportunities, news flashes, their ROW. MnDOT reminds residents that placing signs or objects in the and more.You're busy we get it.We make it highway ROW is a misdemeanor with a maximum$1,000 fine and/or �~ easy to stay connected to your city government! 90 days in jail. Proctor Road,Twin Lakes Road,and Mississippi Road are examples of county highways within Elk River. LOCATED Experience You Can Trust. DOWNTOWN STREET mqk�" AUTO BODY ��Ass ..,, ■ - ■ — Repair ELK RIVER.OF MINNESOTA Paintless Dent Removal Auto Glass Repair LEARN MORE BY VISITING Boat Repair . . - - 4[/� /' APR 2 9 2014 K,+Cy L try 1 IJ I am a person who has a garage sale almost every year as I have slot of items left from when I ran the Art Barn 10 years ago. In order to get one antique in a box you had to get the whole box, so there were items that weren't quite colletible yet or were new, so I would store them, hence my sales. My sales last year were cut down by more than 50% due to having to place my signs in peoples yards away from the sight of the drivers on the roads. it is alot of work to put on a garage sale, moving boxes setting up tables marking prices preparing signs etc. Every year all year we are expected to maintain the grass between the road and the sidewalk, we rake and mow it and in the winter we clear the snow from the sidewalks. we are assessed for the area and we pay taxes to our city but, we cannot put our signs on them for one week when we have a garage sale. This does not seem fair. There are some people who do not remove their signs after the sale and most of them are the ones having a moving sale, I suppose they don't want to bother as they will be gone, but that should not jeprodize the rest of us. some put signs on light poles and this should not be done. I don't mind seeing signs and have not heard anyone complain to me about any of them including graduation or shower parties. when the signs are removed by the city people can't find the sales as many of our housing projects have many curvy roads. or are out of town several miles. older people make up about 33% of the people that come to my sales, they and I go to the sales for entertainment and exercise, better than going to a casino. A third are young people just starting out and cannot afford the high prices in the stores, with our economy still not good these sales are a must for them. unemployment is still high with many who have given up finding a job and now only one person working in the household. one of the biggest concerns is the safety issue of having the signs farther back. when signs are next to the road and you read them your eyes are still on the road, but when the signs are out in someones yard your eyes are completely off of the road and for a longer time as they are harder to read. we could see rear end crashes or people getting run over. I think dates and addresses could be written small on the bottom of the sign so that the people who leave them out too long will have them removed. most people pick them up as they cost alot to make, and take considerable time to make. Garage sale ads cost quite a bit when you consider an average item being sold is 50 cents so a $16 ad would have to sell 32 items, that's alot just to pay for the ad. we have so many of our freedoms taken away from us already and even if this is an old law on the books doesn't mean that it should be enforced to that extent, it instead could be eliminated. so lets give the person being paid to remove them more time to do something more constructive. If this is not resolved to the liking of alot of people just remember the council is an elected position and they can be replaced. 4w"t AJ JUNI Monday, lone 16, 20241 Dear john; I am writing t®you, and en6osing a Pill for our Garage Sale signs. If the City is going to pick yap signs then they are responsible for them. Ours were picked up on Thursday morns ng June 12, 2014. However when Wally Gwent to pack them up they weren't there. He Gwent twice again that same day. He went today June 23, 2014 about 7:30 this morning and our signs were still not there. I would like to knew what happened to them. There were 13 signs, white corrugated plastic. We bought them at ii�lienard`s at a cost of over$4.00 each. $36.00 plus tax, worth of signs. This is becoming a huge problem. Garage Sales are and have been a part of our community forever. When Wally went out to the site this morning he saw signs all along School Street advertising a fund-raiser at one of the Schools. To mV knowledge they were not picked up and they were in the right of way. I don't know what problem the City has with Garage Sale signs? I and many anthers are very upset with the City over this. You have not heard the last of me on this subject. I plan to present a lmetition the City Council asking that this ordinance be removed. A response is appreciated. Respectably Gayle A Fogs 514 5-2/2 St. NW, Elk River, MN 55330 230847 CUSTOMER'S ORDER NO. DATE 6 - 16 NAME ADDRESS 1 CITY,STATE,ZI? o erg SOLD BY CASH C.O.D. CHARGE I ON A46CT. I WK.RETD. PAID OUT QUA . DESCRIPTION PRICE AMOUNT 1 v� 2 s 4 5 6 7 9 10 12 V RECEIVED BY 97- 4705 KEEP THIS SLIP FOR REFERENCE Minnesota Department of Transportation NEWS RELEASE District 3 3725 12th St. N. St. Cloud, MN 56303-2107 April 24, 2014 Contact: J.P. Gillach 218-828-5706 For Immediate Release iames.gillach(ustate.mn.us Unauthorized signs and objects not allowed on state highway rights of way ST CLOUD, Minn. -- The Minnesota Department of Transportation reminds citizens that placing unauthorized signs and other objects on state highway rights of way is illegal and can be dangerous. "As the weather warms, we usually see a significant increase in advertising signs and items for sale placed illegally along state roadways," said Mark Renn, MnDOT's roadway regulations supervisor in St. Cloud. Placing signs or objects in highway rights of way is a misdemeanor violation with a maximum $1,000 fine and/or 90 days in jail. Highway rights of way include driving lanes, shoulders, ditches, clear zones and sight corners at intersections. State law also says that items may not be placed on private property outside of the right of way limits but in proximity to a roadway without consent of the landowner. "Illegally placed signs and objects can distract and restrict the visibility of drivers in many situations, especially at intersections," said Rich Munch, MnDOT's roadway regulations supervisor in the Baxter. "They are also a hazard to legal users of the right of way, including people using ATVs and crews working on utilities." MnDOT crews will remove all signs within the right of way without notice. Larger objects often placed illegally in the right of way include automobiles, boats and motors, campers, travel trailers, produce stands and large hay bales. These objects are extremely hazardous if a vehicle runs off the road and strikes it. For information regarding roadway regulations, right of way boundaries, or where to find removed materials, please contact the MnDOT office in St. Cloud at 320-223-6522, toll free 1-800-657-3961; or the Baxter headquarters at 218-828-5777 or toll free at 1-800-657-3971. INDY3 raleiggb-Cary L1umLvn—c,fi.3pbi Ihia City says anti-sheriff signs are legal By Sam DeGrave Acarpenter's level critiqued James Michael Lynch's every move as he worked.After each swing of his mallet,Lynch consulted the level,which rested on the sign's wooden frame. Only when a sign was perfectly straight did Lynch allow I W'WA himself to move onto the next. SHERI� The sun wouldn't be up for another hour,but the street lights �����enabled him to see.By 7 a.m.Lynch had finished working.On D. one side of South Dillard Street,stood the massive Durham i County Courthouse;on the other, 11 signs,posted in the public right-of-way,accused Sheriff Mike Andrews of Photo by Lisa Sorg Lynch:I've got to expose the corruption,and then I'll get my conspiracy. safe back." "I believe Sheriff Michael D.Andrews is nefarious! He lies to Lynch became unhappy with the way his case was being victims and conspires with others to cover up crimes!"the handled almost immediately.But without probable cause signs read. linking Lynch's neighbor to the theft,the sheriffs office made no arrest.Agitated by the apparent lack of progress,Lynch Lynch walked the length of the street admiring his work,and became suspicious of the people handling his case. then returned to his truck,which was parked on the sidewalk. He opened the door,but he didn't get in.Instead,he turned to So over the last year,Lynch has filed citizen's complaints face the courthouse parking deck before smiling and waving to against Andrews and five other members of the sheriff s the security camera on top of it. office,alleging that they lied to him and conspired to cover up crimes "You can't tell me Andrews or one of his deputies ain't going to see that,"Lynch said before getting into his truck and "I just got this feeling in my gut,and something didn't feel driving home. right,"Lynch said. "My gut hasn't been wrong yet." Lynch's signs started appearing around Durham about four During the past three weeks,Andrews was unable to speak months ago as an attempt to dethrone Andrews,the with the INDYregarding Lynch or his signs.Communicating incumbent,in the spring election.(Andrews won.)Lynch's through Sheriffs Office Public Information Officer Paul beef with the sheriffs office started in September 2012.That's Sherwin,Andrews cited meetings and vacation as the reasons when Lynch noticed a safe he had hidden in an air duct in his why he was unable to talk to the press. Sherwin didn't respond home was missing.The safe contained a pinky ring,a gold to the INDFs most recent request to speak with the sheriff, chain,four car titles,a friend's P89 Ruger,loaded with 16 which was sent on July 3. hollow-point rounds,and$15,000 in cash that Lynch says he had been saving for his parents. The neighbor also declined to speak with the INDY. Lynch suspected his neighbor stole the safe while cleaning his After noticing what he deemed to be inconsistencies in what house,and called the sheriffs office to file a report. several members of the Sheriffs Office told him regarding the investigation,Lynch was convinced he was being lied to.He began documenting nearly every interaction he had with Tell that to Durham County Criminal Magistrate Steven R. anyone involved in his case. Storch,who was cited with illegally removing one of Lynch's signs in April.He is scheduled to appear in court on July 21. Almost two years after the investigation began,Lynch's case remains open,and his safe is still missing.But the return of his Storch was cited after he allegedly boasted at a city council safe is no longer Lynch's top priority. meeting that he had removed the sign. Sheriffs Deputy Ricky Buchanan,who at the time,was running against Andrews, "That comes second,"Lynch said. "I've got to get them first reportedly overheard Storch and relayed the information to for what they've done.I've got to expose the corruption,and Lynch. then I'll get my safe back." Lynch then reported Storch to Durham police. But exposing corruption isn't cheap.Lynch,who became unemployed after his auto mechanic business burned down, "They charged me with a statute from 18-fucking-85," Storch estimates that he has spent more than$24,000 from a savings said. "I did no wrong.I broke no law." account in his crusade. Storch said the statute is outdated;it originally prohibited "I've spent every dime I have to fight these people,but I'm not people from tampering with signs ordering the return of loose going to give up,"Lynch,44,said. "If I have to be homeless, livestock. I'll be homeless." "I'm not a sheriff.I was just personally offended by the signs," �^ Storch said. "They make the whole town look bad." Lynch responded by posting several anti-Storch signs. Storch ' `" ► said he contemplated suing Lynch,but he decided not to after checking Lynch's assets,which are few. Hundreds of pages of notes lie neatly in manila folders covering Lynch's kitchen table and counter.These folders contain what Lynch says is"criminal evidence,"enough to send Andrews and several other current and former employees of the sheriffs office to jail. Lynch said he believes his evidence proves that Andrews lied to him in an attempt to protect his colleagues,whom Lynch + — had already filed complaints against,and to cover up the theft of Lynch's safe. Photo by g Lisa Sorg Whether Lynch's"evidence"is conclusive is James Michael Lynch estimates he's spent about$5,000 on 50 signs and questionable,but its thoroughness is not.Fearing that nobody $20,000 on legal fees. would believe him if it came down to his word against the sheriffs,Lynch recorded almost every phone call and in- person conversation he had with anyone connected to his in- Over the past few months,the Durham City Planning person than four hours'worth. Department has fielded a number of complaints about Lynch's signs.However,Assistant Planning Director Patrick Young "Thank God for a motherfucking recorded phone call," Lynch said Lynch has complied with the city's sign regulations, said. which fall under the Durham United Development Ordinance. Lynch says his friends have urged him to abandon his two- "This is certainly unusual and unprecedented in terms of year fight against the sheriffs office. number of signs and the duration of time they've been up,but he's not breaking the law,"Young said. "I've fought for a year and ten months,and I've gotten "At this point,I have no plan,"Lynch said. "I take it day by nowhere,"Lynch said. "My friends tell me to stop,but I can't day and hope for a miracle." do that because I know I'm right.I will get my restitution.I'm confident I will." This article appeared in print with the headline"Taking the law in his hands" But Lynch's savings account is almost exhausted. "Maybe, behind my back,somebody is looking into this,"Lynch said. "There has got to be an investigation some time." http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/city-says-anti- But until then Lynch said he will continue to put up signs and sheriff-signs-are-legal/Content?oid=4200992 fight Andrews and the Sheriffs Office.