12.a. PRSR 11-13-1996 Sty of / MEMORANDUM
Elk •
River TO: Park & Recreation Commission
FROM: Steven B. Ach, City Planner,�,� ,. ..
DATE: November 13, 1996
SUBJECT: Preliminary Plat Request by Good
Value Homes (Cherrywood Hills),
Case No. P 96-13
Issue
Consider park dedication requirements for Cherrywood Hills preliminary
plat.
Attachments
• Draft of 10/9/96 Park & Recreation Committee minutes
• • Preliminary plat
• Staff report dated October 9, 1996
Overview
Last month, the Park & Recreation Commission reviewed a "concept plan" for
the proposed preliminary plat and made some preliminary comments
towards possible park dedication requirements. According to the draft of the
Park & Rec Commission minutes dated October 9, 1996, the Park & Rec
Commission recommended the developer give consideration to providing a
one acre neighborhood park and the Commission also supported converting
193rd Avenue into a trail corridor from Proctor Avenue west to the city trail.
Since that meeting, the developer has provided the city with a formal
application and preliminary plat for the 38± acres. The submitted plat does
include a small park area in the center of the development. The park is
approximately 17,000 square feet (.4 acres). As pointed out at the last Park
and Rec meeting, a sidewalk will continue along Highland Road and Rush
Street. This sidewalk will connect with the sidewalk from Lafayette Woods
to the north. In regards to the trail along 193rd it may make sense to provide
a connection from Rush Court to the trail corridor. This connection would
provide convenient pedestrian access for residents in this development.
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Memo to the Park and Recreation Commission Page 2
November 13, 1996
The Park & Recreation Commission is asked to provide a recommendation for
park dedication requirements on the proposed plat so this may be included
into the report to the Planning Commission and City Council.
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Recreation Commission Minutes Page 2
October 9,1996
• property. Mr. Cohrs and Mr. Hipsag indicated Commissioner Dave Anderson
suggested they come to the Park and Recreation Commission to discuss
continuing to hunt the property. Mr. Cohrs and Mr. Hipsag explained they know
the area well since they live nearby and have hunted the area for a number of
years. Mr. Hipsag and Mr. Cohrs noted they do not shoot south toward
Ridgewood. Chair Dana Anderson explained the possibility of issuing permits to
hunt in the park land has been discussed. Currently city ordinance prohibits
hunting in city parks. If a permit process were implemented, it would likely be
necessary for the city to offer the opportunity to other residents. Mr. Hipsag
stated he felt it would be better to close it off completely to hunting, rather than
have people hunting that do not know the area. Ron Nierenhausen agreed
that it would be best to keep the parks closed to hunting for safety issues.
Discussion followed regarding a potential for overpopulation of deer.
It was the consensus of the Park and Recreation Commissioners to continue the
city's policy of "no hunting" in city parks at this time, and that the issue of
hunting to control overpopulation could be addressed yearly. The
Commissioners suggested that signs be posted at the trail heads to advise park
users of hunting season and that the park abuts private hunting land.
6. Area Recreation Update-Jeff Asfahl
Jeff Asfahl, Community Recreation Director, provided information regarding new
and existing programming. Jeff advised the Commissioners of a skateboard
410 exhibition planned for Saturday, October 19, from 4 to 6 p.m. Chair Dana
Anderson expressed concern for parking confusion during girls softball
tournaments with the skating boarding area being barricaded in the parking lot.
Jeff explained it would be unlikely these events will overlap.
Jeff noted there was information in the Commissioner's packet regarding the
National Parks and Conservation Association "March for Parks" . The March for
Parks started in 1990 to encourage citizens to get involved with parks in their
communities. Jeff suggested the city may wish to work jointly with Otsego. Each
city could sponsor their own event, whether it would be raising citizens
awareness, fundraising for a particular park project, or both.
7.a. Consider Concept Plan for Jacobs Parcel- Northwest Corner of Proctor Avenue
and 193rd Avenue
Steve Ach explained Mr. John Peterson of Good Value Homes was present to
discuss with the Commissioners a concept plan for a residential plat of 75 single
family lots. The proposed plat is located in the northwest corner of Proctor and
193rd Avenue.
Discussion followed regarding whether or not a park was needed in this area
and the location of trails. Members of the Commission expressed concern for
safety of pedestrians moving through this development and Lafayette Woods to
the schools east of Proctor.
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ar Recreation Commission Minutes Page 3
October 9, 1996
Chair Anderson indicated the Master Park Plan does not identify a potential
park in this area. However, given the combined size of the Lafayette Woods
plat and this proposed plat, the Commission may wish to consider a need for
green space.
Discussion followed regarding the public's limited use of school playgrounds and
facilities to meet park needs. Commissioner Huberty felt there is a need for a
neighborhood park in this area with a playground for young children.
Mr. Peterson of Good Value Homes, suggested the 2 acre parcel in the
southeast corner of the proposed plat could be used for a neighborhood park.
He questioned why this development would be required to provide a
neighborhood park and the Lafayette Woods development, which is much
larger, was not.
Discussion followed regarding the topography of Outlot A in Lafayette Woods
which was deeded to the city as a charitable contribution from the developers
of Lafayette Woods.
It was the consensus of the Park & Recreation Commission to recommend the
developer give consideration to a 1 acre neighborhood park play area (tot lot),
and supported converting 193rd into a trail corridor from Proctor west to the city
trail.
4. Open Mike
John Halton, 13211 179 1/2 Avenue NW, questioned what was planned for the 3+
acre park in Country Crossing 3rd Addition. He expressed his concern that the
park be developed appropriately to serve the neighborhood. Chair Anderson
indicated it may be 1-1/2 to 2 years before the park is developed. Mr. Halton
requested the park area be flooded for ice skating in the winter. Chair Dana
Anderson indicated the Commission has considered clearing an area on Lake
Orono for skating in the winter, and the possibility of flooding some blacktopped
area to serve residents in this portion of the city.
Mr. Halton requested that a sign be placed on the warming house at Handke
stating hockey sticks are not allowed inside the building. Commissioner Olson
suggested that a barrel be placed outside for the sticks. Mr. Hallon indicated
the reason for the request is safety, as he has been hit in the head several times
himself by a hockey stick while in the warming house.
7.b. Consider Preliminary Plat by Pat Hering (Hering Addition) - Northwest Corner of
Freeport Avenue and School Street
COMMISSIONER MADSEN MOVED THE PARK& RECREATION COMMISSION
RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL ACCEPT CASH TO FULFILL THE PARK DEDICATION
REQUIREMENT FOR THE HEYING ADDITION PLAT, CASE NO. P 96-11.
COMMISSIONER WESTRUM SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
• 7.c. Consider Preliminary Plat by John Hitchcock (Islandview 4th Addition)