11-17-2015 PR MIN City of Special Meeting of the Elk River
Parks and Recreation Commission
Elks Held at the Elk River City Hall
River Tuesday, November 17, 2015
Members Present: Chair Anderson, Commission members Ahlness,Holmgren,
Kallemeyn,Nystrom,Niziolek, and Sagan
Council T.iaison: Ms.Wagner
Staff Present: Parks and Recreation Director,Michael Hecker,Parks and
Recreation Manager, Steve Benoit,Recreation Coordinator,Tonya
Love, and Communications Coordinator,Rae Ann Gardner
I. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Parks and
Recreation Commission was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Chair Anderson.
2. Eagle Scout Projects Presentation
Mr. Benoit introduced the Eagle Scouts presenting their projects.
1111 Nick Sink,created a 0.16 mile long trail extension at Bailey Point Nature Preserve.
Trent Modeen, created a stairway and side access trail to access the Great Northern
Trail. The side access trail is for bicyclists and handicap access at the Vernon cul-de-
sac.
David Waldron, created and built the Rice Lake Scenic Overlook deck.
Zachary Johnson,restored the Bailey Point Nature Preserve maintenance shed.
Conner Armstrong,restored part of the Handke Stadium wall to prevent further
erosion.
Charlie Blesener, acknowledged Conner's work at Handke Stadium, stating that it is a
remarkable transformation.
Dillon Earl,restored a partial area of riverbank at Bailey Point Nature Preserve.
Eric Toth,Bailey Point Nature Preserve Park Steward,recognized and thanked all
the Boy Scouts tonight for their work.
Mr. Hecker acknowledged and thanked the Boy Scouts for their hard work on all the
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3. Discuss City Wayfinding Master Plan
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Ms. Gardner presented her staff report. Stating that the Wayfinding Master Plan is a
long term, all-encompassing plan,which fits within the 2014 City Council
beautification goals. Sharing examples of the signage created by Visual Connections.
Council member Wagner stated the City Council is looking for design direction to
then go out get pricing through the RFP process.Asking for commission's
recommendation as to what type of signs are preferred for the parks.
Commissioner Anderson shared that he sent drawings to a sign company to get an
idea of cost. The park entrance signs were around$22,000.
Mr. Hecker reminded the Commission that there may be other funding sources
besides the park improvement fund.
Council member Wagner shared that the parks signs benefit the whole community,
and the signs would be covered by other budget line options.
Commissioner Niziolek expressed caution to not install too many directional signs,
due to the technology people have access to on their smartphones.
Commissioner Anderson stated he thought the public would be better served by an
electronic app to get to the parks.
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Commissioner Niziolek stated he was nervous about a huge investments into signs
and wants to keep the cost to a minimum.
Commissioner Anderson expressed that no matter where the money comes from it is
still$22,000 and makes it not available for something else. Strive for quality,but
what it costs should be part of the decision making process.
Commissioner members discussed field stone options.
Council member Wagner shared that staff is looking for design direction to get rfp's.
Mr. Hecker shared that the new Parks Superintendent,Tim Sevcik is excited about
the wayfinding plan as it will help bring more people into the parks. The signs are an
effort to make things easier for community and visitors in finding our parks.
Ms. Gardner explained that the wayfinding plan builds on the branding the city did
many years ago and that the signs are cohesive design.
Commissioner Anderson asked for what commission members want in the signs.
Commissioner Niziolek expressed they should be field stone,Handke Stadium is a
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• Commission agreed to wanting Field Stone
Commission members discussed vertical versus horizontal type signs, durability,
aesthetics, and landscaping around the sings.
Holmgren has an issue with no"City of Elk River" on the sign. It only has the river
lines.
Commissioner Anderson stated he was in favor of wayfinding,not sure about the
powered by nature logo. Will it last as long as the parks last?The international
symbols are needed.
Commissioners agreed that they would like to have city logo or City of Elk River on
sign,people may not realize they are in city when at YAC and not to use the
Powered by Nature logo.They also prefer to have the word"park"in sign title.
Commission members prefer horizontal signs and shared concern over the use of
aluminum.
Commissioner Anderson stated he would like a rustic looking sign when he sees
park, sharing that he doesn't want a shopping center style sign.
• Commissioner Niziolek expressed that there could be a different sign for
conservation areas and encouraged a common element within the signs but have a
rustic element for William H. Houlton Conservation Area.
Commissioner Anderson stated that if the commission wants a$10,000 sign versus a
$20,000 sign then having Visual Connections doing a redesign for$10,000 than we
have saved on the first sign.
Commissioners agreed to recommend the following for the primary park sign
• Remove Powered by Nature language
• Include city logo or"City of Elk River" on the main body of the sign
• Remove the aluminum base. Support the sign with two field stone columns,
two concrete posts or one of each.
• Move international symbols to the main body of the sign
• Remove the blue waves element
• When not in a mowed landscape, the elevation of the main body of the sign
should be a minimum of 42 inches. Native landscaping is preferred for most
park settings.
• Add park address to the main body of the park sign
• Preference is to use natural field stone as opposed to cultured stone or cut
field stone.
• Commissioner Anderson stated that the secondary sign would be better served with
"City of Elk River" or logo instead of waves.
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Sue Seeger,Hillside City Park Trail Steward expressed appreciation that Hillside City III
Park is a Signature park in the Master Park Plan. Stating that the sign may be too
large for the entrance of Hillside City Park. Users tend to find the park by their
phones so the sign is not used to locate the park as much as a marker. The kiosk
design would not work with the location of trail head and parking lot. Ms. Seeger
stated the she would like the sign to say"Hillside Mountain Bike Park or Trail".
Commissioner Anderson expressed his concern about vandalism of the aluminum
and the graphics would need to be made of a sturdier material, such as high pressure
laminate.
Commissioners discussed sign material used and options.
Commissioner Anderson stated that the trail map signs could be made with the high
pressure laminate that he looked at during NRPA Conference.
I3. Adjournment
There being no further business, Chair Anderson adjourned the meeting of the Elk
River Parks and Recreation Commission at 8:49 p.m.
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