04-19-2016 ICE MIN • Elk
;•.- Meeting of the Arena Commission
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Tuesday, April 19, 2016
Members Present: Chair Givens,Vice Chair Balabon, Commissioners Ballenger,
Cunningham,Westgaard,Madsen.
Members Absent: Commissioner Holmgren
Staff Present: Arena Manager Rich Czech,Arena Assistant Laura Estby
I. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Ice Arena Commission
was called to order at 6:04 p.m. by Chair Givens.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
Recited by Commission Members and Staff.
3. Oath of Office to New Commission Members
Oath of office completed by Commissioner Cunningham and Chair Givens.
• 4. Consider 4/19/16 Agenda
Motion by Commissioner Westgaard and seconded by Commissioner
Balabon to approve the April 19, 2016 agenda.
Motion carried 6-0.
5. Consider 8/18/15 Minutes
Per Commissioner Cunningham, the highlighted word on pg. 3 of the minutes
should read"skinned".
Per Chair Givens,the first sentence should read "they would prefer if the arena
stayed close to the school". In addition, on the same page, the 4th paragraph down
should read"...the district hasn't happened by now..."
Motion by Commissioner Westgaard and seconded by Vice Chair Balabon to
approve the August 18, 2015 minutes pending the above changes. Motion
carried 6-0.
6. Open Forum
No one was in attendance.
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• 7. Financial Update
Arena Manager Rich Czech delivers report as Finance Director Tim Simon has
accepted a position in St. Louis Park and will be leaving in May.
Czech notes that 2015 Ice Rentals were above budget due in part to an increase in
cost,but also because more ice has been sold—mainly to different groups coming in
during off peak. Recreational program revenue and admissions have decreased,
which Czech attributes to fewer games overall (10 as opposed to 12) and more
games being scheduled during the week. He also notes that sign rental revenue is up,
however Randy's sanitation will not be advertising on the Zamboni moving forward.
Dry floor events have reached their max revenue.
With regards to the expenditures,Rich notes we came in under budget for Personal
Service due to the lead arena worker position being vacant for a portion of the year.
Operating expenditures were over budget due to the repairs that were done on the
Olympic Rink flooring, he also noted the new Zamboni was approved in 2015 but
delivered in 2016.
Overall the arena was $270,000 in the black. Many of the Capital Outlay projects
haven't been completed in anticipation of a possible multipurpose facility.
Motion by Commissioner Ballenger and seconded by Commissioner Madsen
to approve the Arena Financials. Motion carries 6-0.
8. General Business
8.1 Multipurpose Community Center Progress Update
Arena Manager Rich Czech reviews the options.The A/B options reflect
improving/expanding the facilities that we already have and the 1 / 2 options are for
new facilities.
Should the city expand the spaces that they currently have,it has been discussed to
add a multipurpose space to the Activity Center, redo the bathrooms,add a new
meeting space and mechanicals,however some neighboring homes would need to be
purchased by the city and there is no cost estimate for that at this time.
With regards to the Lions Park location, Option A would take what we currently
have,add more parking by removing the current amphitheater, add more space in
the front and add on to the current gym. This would give the current gym/meeting
space the capability of accommodating 200 people,and it also adds a commercial
kitchen.
Option B would add more parking,include a 400 person banquet facility,a larger
lobby, a commercial kitchen and expand the bathrooms.
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For the Arena location, Option A would demolish the barn and build a new sheet
(keeping the rink a 2 sheet facility), the locker rooms and maintenance rooms would
be down the center, the lobby would be pushed out,meeting rooms would be added
as well as a pro shop and there would be a second level. The Olympic rink would be
shortened to North American size and there would be one central ice plant. This
option would be cheaper;however it will not last as long.
Option B would be to expand to 3 sheets (all standard size with concrete floors- one
of which could be removed in February and made into turf), demolish the barn,
locker rooms and maintenance rooms would be down the center. Czech notes this
would mean the removal of the girls' softball field and tennis court. He also states
the high school will be tearing out the 97 parking spaces to the East of the rink this
summer.
Should the city choose a multipurpose facility at Lions Park, option 1 would require
at least 10 acres of space,would include 3 ice rinks, a banquet facility and a senior
center.
Commissioner Madsen inquires about the soil issue at Lions Park.
Commissioner Westgaard notes it still is an issue, however due to the user group
feedback suggesting at least 10 acres of space it is still being considered as an option.
All of the options will have their own unique situations that will need to be
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that the current ballfields would need to be moved. It has been estimated that it will
cost$1.5 million to get past the peat,however the Lions Park location keeps it in a
central location close to the schools. Westgaard also notes that the seniors have
expressed an interest to stay centrally located and not move to the west end of town.
In addition an extra sheet of ice would also translate to additional revenue.
Czech notes the Opt 2 for the Lions Park location would configure the parking
differently in an effort to avoid the areas with more peat.
Oak Knoll Option 1 includes 3 rinks,all standard size—however one is drawn larger
to accommodate more seating. The walking track would be around sheets 2 and 3 so
that it wouldn't be affected by high school games. This option would take out the
ball fields.
Oak Knoll Option 2 pushes the facility back further so the ball fields could be kept,
however this would diminish the curb appeal. There are two entrances for better
traffic flow.
Commissioner Westgaard states he is trying to keep an open mind about this
location;however it is right by the compost site and would be tucked away.
Commissioner Madsen notes the Lions Park option is tucked back too.
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• Arena Manager Czech states the Lions Park location as well as the Orono location
would allow for the possibility of more development in the future.
The Lake Orono Option 1 would have a commons area, the rinks on one side and
the senior center and banquet facility on the other. Should the facility be built here,
the Dave Anderson athletic complex (four ball fields) would need to be relocated.
Commissioner Westgaard notes it would feel as though customers were parking in
the back of the building because you would want the building to face the lake.
Lake Orono Option 2 isn't ideal because in the future if/when the police and fire
departments expand,it would block the front entrance.
Arena Manager Czech noted other locations were looked at,but ultimately these 3
made the most sense.
Vice Chair Balabon suggests building a multipurpose facility by YAC.
Commissioner Westgaard agrees there is a good amount of space there,but that
would put the building all the way on the east side of town.
Commissioner Ballenger emphasizes the importance of having a location that allows
for development opportunities around it.
Commissioner Westgaard notes the Chamber of Commerce feedback has been that a
new facility location that allows for added development is a plus. He also notes the
lion's share of a multipurpose facility would be for the Arena. This is a different
angle than how the future of the Arena has been looked at in the past,but the City
has to consider the improvements and upgrades that are on the horizon for the
Arena, Senior Center and the Lions Park Facility. He adds the preliminary numbers
for a multipurpose facility are coming in at$42 million.To make renovations to the
current facilities would be in the neighborhood of$30 million,but that wouldn't
prepare the City for 40 years in the future.
Vice Chair Balabon suggests the Senior Center stays where it is and move the
multipurpose facility someone else without it?
Commissioner Madsen considers selling the current buildings if a new facility is built.
Commissioner Westgaard states it is all or nothing,and that the numbers need to be
hashed out for additional revenue that would come in with a third sheet as well as a
banquet facility.
Commissioner Ballenger notes Lions Park is a good location for extra retail or
development,as customers would have to go through downtown or Hwy 169 to
School Street to get there.
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Commissioner Westgaard notes there could be two entrance points at the Lions Park
location as well,and that the Council wants the Arena Commission's input.
Commissioner Madsen agrees with the Lions Park location,as there are more
options (retail) around there, the Lake Orono option only has Subway. He notes,
however that traffic could be an issue at the Lions Park location.
Vice Chair Balabon likes the location by the high school and echoes the importance
of customers having to drive through the city to get to it.
Commissioner Westgaard believes the County is vacating the maintenance garage by
the Fire Station, and three developers have looked at Jackson Street.
Commissioner Ballenger states the Blaine Super Rink location also had to deal with
peat.
Commissioner Westgaard suggests after the peat is removed it wouldn't necessarily
have to be built back up; the rinks could be below concourse level. However more
studies need to be done.
Vice Chair Balabon adds the seniors would be happier at the Lions Park location
since it is more central.
411, Commissioner Madsen inquires about the possibility of moving the rink more
towards the pond and having the parking near the apartment buildings, so the
seniors could have a walkway out their back door.
Commissioner Westgaard states the idea of the plans at this point is to show that
everything that would be required for a new facility,including parking,would fit in
this location.
Chair Givens echoes approval of the Lions Park location due to its proximity to the
high school which would mean that after school practices wouldn't need to be
pushed back to accommodate the arrival of the players across town.
Commissioner Westgaard asks Commissioner Cunningham if the school has an
opinion.
Commissioner Cunningham agrees the school would like to keep a new facility close.
He adds it is easier for supervision as well.Also,we need to consider the kids that
are coming from Zimmerman as well. He notes gym space is at a premium in spring,
so a facility with the ability to host lacrosse is intriguing.
Commissioner Westgaard adds they spoke to several sports groups,and one of the
rinks could have ice out after February and be used for other sports.
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• Arena Manager Czech adds lacrosse has been renting dry floor space from the arena
this spring,and that Anoka does well with having turf after they take out their ice.
Commissioner Westgaard states there is the possibility of repurposing spaces in a
new facility as well, so it could be used for seniors during the day and youth
sports/activities in the evening. He confirms it is the consensus of the Arena
Commission that Lions Park Center would be their preferred site for a new
multipurpose facility.
Commissioner Cunningham notes it is important to do it right, do it well,and not to
do it"on the cheap".
8.2 2016-2017 Ice Rates
Arena Manager Rich Czech notes the rates were raised last year to $190/hour, and
he doesn't anticipate raising it again this year,unless the Arena Commission wants
to. He adds off season rates are still at$145/hour for prime and $115/hour for non-
prime. Czech doesn't recommend an increase as he feels the arena is on par with
other neighboring rinks.
Commissioner Westgaard inquires about the number of hours sold this year.
Arena Manager Czech replies 4500 hours (refers to usage stats) and notes when
individuals are customers who buy 1-2 hours sporadically,however when they start
buying several hours at a time, the hours are noted under clinics and tournaments.
Commissioner Ballenger notes from the Youth Hockey perspective,it makes sense
to keep the hours the same. Especially if it is feasible in the next few years they may
be asked to contribute to a new/expanded facility. He asks Arena Manager Czech if
we have an increase in summer ice sold.
Arena Manager Czech confirms we have sold more this summer, there are more
programs running this year that include a wider age range of kids. He adds the
ERFSC has moved their hours to the morning,and there will be a camp run by Ben
Gustafson for mites thru peewees,whereas before it was only high school aged
hockey players.
Vice Chair Balabon asks if the girls' hockey program is doing well also.
Arena Manager Czech confirms they seem to be doing well, and they will have a
summer program on Tuesdays and Thursdays so it doesn't compete with other
camps. He also adds every year we have to consider if we should still have the Fall
Craft Show(based on if we could sell the ice if we put it back in earlier),but since
the needs change every year,it will stay as it is for now.
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Motion by Commissioner Madsen and seconded by Vice Chair Balabon to
keep the rates at$190/hour for prime time and$145 for non/prime.
Motion carries 6-0.
9. Arena Manager's Update
Arena Manager Czech notes the last hour of ice in the barn until September was last
night at 8:00 p.m.This weekend will be the AC Expos Gun Show, the Spring Craft
Show will be the following weekend,and the Ice Show is May 20-21. He hopes to
have the lead worker candidate to the City Council by May, and adds there were
several good candidates and 18 applications,however Rogers is also hiring so there is
added competition.The Arena Lead Worker position is nights/weekends during the
regular season and daytime in the summer. He adds it is typically a 3-5 year position.
10. Announcements
None.
I 1. Date of next Arena Commission Meeting
Commissioner Westgaard inquires if August is too far out, or if the Commission
should meet earlier as there will be a lot of developments with the Council with
regards to a new facility.
® Arena Manager Czech adds the final costs need to be to the Council by June.
Commissioner Ballenger asks Commissioner Westgaard what the Council will do
after they get the numbers.
Commissioner Westgaard replies the Council will have to make a decision about
whether to remodel the existing facilities or to build new. If they decide to pursue a
new facility, then they need to decide if it could be done without a referendum or if it
will need a referendum, then it needs to be on the ballot in November and the
information would need to get out as soon as possible.
Commissioner Ballenger adds the Youth Hockey Annual Meeting is tomorrow night,
and he will pass along the information.
Motion by Vice Chair Balabon and seconded by Commissioner Ballenger to
schedule a special meeting on Thursday,June 23`d—6pm in the Uppertown
Conference Room. Motion carries 6-0.
I 2. Adjournment
Motion by Vice Chair Balabon and seconded by Commissioner Madsen to
adjourn. Motion carries 6-0 at 7:49 p.m.
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Tina Allard,City Clerk
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