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03-06-1995 CC MIN - SPECIAL-JOINT e SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER CITY COUNCIL AND FIRE DEPARTMENT HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL MONDAY, MARCH 6, 1995 Members Present: Mayor Duitsman. Council Members: Scheel. Dietz. Council Member Farber arrived at 5:25 p.m. Members Absent: Council Member Holmgren Fire Department Compensation Task Force Present: Tom Dillon, Cliff Skogstad. Randy Sykes, Bob Pearson Staff Present: Lori Johnson, Finance Director/Elk River Fire Department Task Force Member, Pat Klaers, City Administrator; Sandra Thackeray. City Clerk 1. Call Meetina To Order Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the special meeting of the Elk River City Council was called to order at 5: 15 p.m. by Mayor Duitsman. e 2. Consider Council Aaenda COUNCIL MEMBER DIETZ MOVED TO APPROVE THE MARCH 6, 1995, CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHEEL SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED 3-0. 3. Discussion on Elk River Fire Comoensation Task Forces. Prooosed Fire Deoartment Comoensation Plan Mayor Hank Duitsman indicated that the Elk River Fire Department Compensation Task Force has met several times to discuss a change in the pension plan from defined benefit to defined contribution. Mayor Duitsman indicated that the Task Force has submitted a proposed compensation package for review by the City Council. He stated that some issues the Council may wish to discuss include the following: · Special Pay for Holiday · Night Call Pay · Total Rate of Pay Per Hour Finance Director Lori Johnson and member of the Fire Department Task Force reviewed the proposed Compensation Package. Council Member Farber arrived at this time (5:25 p.m.). e City CouncillFire Department Meeting March 6, 1995 Page 2 e Two hour call-out pay of $16.00 per hour was discussed by the Council. Committee Member Randy Sykes explained that the fire fighters are requesting double pay when called out between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. The City Council requested the Fire Chief research the number of calls between 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m., and the number of responders per call to determine the effect that this would have on the budget. Mayor Duitsman indicated that he does not support the two hour call-out pay and further stated that he would support a total hourly pay rate of $19.50. Council Member Farber indicated he agrees with the $19.50 per hour, however, he disagreed with the Mayor's decision on the call-out pay. He indicated that he would support call-out pay between the hours of 12:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. Task Force Member Tom Dillon indicated that the Fire Department is taking on extra liability by going to a defined contribution plan. He stated there should be some benefit to the fire fighters and requested that the City Council consider paying $22.25 per hour. Randy Sykes, Task Force Member indicated that $19.50 is not a big incentive to the fire fighters. He further stated that the average total hourly pay for the last nine years has been $21.16 and felt that the fire fighters would be moving backwards by accepting $19.50 per hour. - Council Member Scheel questioned whether the fire fighters' wages were in line with police department wages and other City employee wages and questioned whether there was a way to increase their benefits to make them more in line with other City employees. Council Member Farber indicated he would be willing to increase the salary from $19.50 per hour to a compromise of somewhere between $19.50 and $22.25 per hour. Council Member Scheel indicated she concurred with Council Member Farber. Council Member Dietz indicated he was comfortable with $19.50 and noted that this amount is the average over the last five years when training was included. Task Force Member Bob Pearson indicated that the Fire Department has suggested that they be paid $22.50 per hour and that the two hour call-out pay and Holiday pay be dropped. It was the consensus of the Council to make no decision on this issue at this time. The Council further requested the Fire Chief to provide more statistical information regarding these issues. e e e e City CouncillFire Department Meeting March 6. 1995 Page 3 .......... ...-..... .....--....... ""l" ...__ 4. Adjournment There being no further business, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHEEL MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBER Dim SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED 4-0. The meeting of the City Council adjourned at 6:25 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ~e~ City Clerk I s:minutes:ccfd0306