01-21-1986 CC MIN
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER CITY COUNCIL
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
TUESDAY. JANUARY 21. 1986
MBMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Hinkle. Councilmembers Schuldt. Gunkel. Williams
and Engstrom
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STArI PRESENT: Tom Bublitz: City Administrator. Phil Hals: Street
Superintendent. and Dave Sellergren: City Attorney
1. The Elk River City Council meeting was called to order by Mayor Hipkle at
7:30 p.m.
2. Agenda
Items 6E - Planning Commission Member. 6F - Information on Tax Increment
Financing and 6G - Request for Resolution from Library Board were added to
the agenda.
COUNCILMBMBBR SCHULDT MOVED TO APPROVE
COUNCILMBMBER GUNKEL SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE AGENDA AS
THE MOTION PASSED 4-0.
AMENDED .
January 13. 1986 Council Minutes
COUNCILMlMBBR GUNKEL
MINUTES AS SUBMITTED .
MOTION PASSED 4-0.
MOVED TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 13. 1986 CITY COUNCIL
COUNCILMEMBER ENGSTROM SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
4. Open Mike
Councilmember Engstrom noted he had received a phone call from Sue
Bergstrom. She had stated her concerns with regard to the storm sewer
taking water out of five lakes and depositing it in the Elk River. Her
concern was the water table getting too high. Councilmember Engstrom
noted that Sue Bergstrom had informed him of a meeting being held on
Thursday evening at the elementary school in Big Lake regarding this
matter and felt the City should have a representative at the meeting.
Mayor Hinkle noted he had talked recently with Lyle Smith. the County
Commissioner. and was informed they are making certain considerations to
alleviate the problem.
5. Main Street Rezoning Request - Cont. Public Hearing
The City
907 and
16. 1985
more time
situation.
Administrator noted that the request to rezone the properties at
913 Main Street from R-1C to C-2 was first heard at the December
Council meeting. He noted the city staff had requested to have
to obtain information in order to get a better look at the
He noted the staff has researched the matter and has come up
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with the following conclusions.
The City Administrator noted that the three major documents he used when
putting together his conclusions were the Redevelopment Plan for the
downtown passed by the HRA. the finalized land use map and the Zoning
Ordinance.
The City Administrator stated that the Redevelopment Plan stresses a need
to define an edge for the downtown. He indicated that the use proposed in
the zoning request is consistent with the land use map. but stated that
the key question is. "what is the proper timing for this". He indicated
the map refers to sometime in the future and at the present there is no
definite timing for this. The City Administrator noted that the Council
must look at what uses are allowed in a C-2 zone. He indicated that the
rezoning and the overall land use must be separated because once it is
rezoned it will open the area up to a number of other uses besides the
request. He further noted that the Zoning Ordinance directs the Council
to review certain considerations when zoning amendments are considered.
The City Administrator stated that the parcels in question are residential
uses at this time and based on the development plan the Staff is not
recommending that the area be rezoned to commercial. He stated there is
no need to expand the Central Business District since there is commercial
property available. He questioned what would happen to the rest of the
block should the zone change go through. He also indicated he felt there
was no mistake in the original zoning of the area. He noted the key issue
is the establishment of the edge of the downtown area.
The City Administrator noted he tried to separate the proposal from the
applicants and acknowledged the fact that the applicants are reputible
businesses in the downtown area. He indicated he is looking at the matter
with regard to a land use and zoning perspective.
Mayor Hinkle noted that at a Council Meeting in May of 1981. there was a
3-1 vote to rezone the block. He indicated there was not a full Council
present so therefore the vote was not passed.
Jack Terpstra spoke to the City Council representing the applicants of the
request. He noted that Rick Breezee enthusiastically endorsed the
proposal and that the Planning Commission had recommended approval of the
proposal. Mr. Terpstra stated "What the whole proposition boils down to
is the question of when." He indicated that timing means when the need
and opportunity to do something come together. He stated the timing for
rezoning these two parcels to commercial is an appropriate time. He
stated the opportunity is here because there are two well established
businesses interested. He noted the need is there because there is no
available space suited for these two businesses in the City of Elk River.
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He noted the m1n1mum space needed for Century 21/White Dove realty is
2.000 square feet and the minimum space needed for the Terpstra Black law
office of 1.500 square feet.
He noted the former Ben Franklin store has 5.000 square feet. He stated
the parking situation is not suitable for the number of employees. He
indicated he had contacted the owner of the building and was informed that
he is about ready to enter into a contract to lease the space and further
that there are three other people interested in the space.
Mr. Terpstra stated there is no suitable space available in downtown Elk
River. He indicated he felt downtown Elk River is a viable place for
retail trade and further that he is interested in keeping the downtown Elk
River as retail and not putting it all to use as office area.
Mr. Terpstra indicated that the former Hagens Super Va1u is not a suitable
space for an office type operation.
Jack Terpstra indicated there is a need as well as an opportunity to
develop these two parcels for constructive and useful businesses for the
town and an opportunity to keep business in the downtown area.
Mayor Hinkle opened the public hearing.
Mr. Lloyd Anderson responded to the idea of keeping the edge in the
downtown area. He noted that the reality in this case is that the edge
was broken many years ago. He indicated he felt commercial zoning should
be consistent on both sides of Main Street. He noted the zone change
would even up the edge so as to be compatible on both sides of the street.
Mr. Jerry Smith. an employer of White Dove Realty indicated that all the
sites available in the Elk River area are retail sites. He noted their
goal is not to rent another site. but to purchase so they can become
stable in the downtown area.
Gene Chouinard of White Dove Realty noted they employ 20 people. He
indicated the business is a big help to the City for employment. He noted
they are very cramped for space in their present office.
Mayor Hinkle closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Schuldt indicated that the concerns for the neighborhood
were not discussed. He indicated that if the zoning were passed on the
basis of Main Street being the logical extension of downtown. then it
could conceivably go as far as Lake Orono. He also stated that if West
Main Street is turned into a two mile commercial strip. then the north
area will never develop.
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Councilmember Schuldt noted that if the property in question is a logical
extension of downtown, what would happen if the shopping center were to
fill to capacity. Would the City extend the commercial district down
School Street for the same reasons? Councilmember Schuldt indicated that
there is nothing to hold the businesses to their promise or intent once
the zone change is made.
Mayor Hinkle indicated his first opinion was in opposition to the request.
He indicated that since then it has been indicated there is a strong
possibility that three homes east of the property in question will be
taken down. He indicated the timing is the issue. He noted some of the
buildings available for rent such as Hagens are too high, and indicated he
would rather see an owner/occupied business in the two homes as opposed to
rental. He stated we must conserve some retail space downtown and that we
must have a mix downtown. He stated the people in the downtown area
should not have to move to Dodge Avenue if they don't want to.
Mayor Hinkle noted that he felt economics plays an important part in the
situation. He indicated that the thing that convinces him most to vote in
favor of the zone change is the fact that he has not heard much opposition
from the residents in the block regarding the zone change. He noted that
five years ago he, and a majority of the Council felt this zone change was
the logical way to go. He indicated he will support the zone change and
feels the time is right.
Councilmember Gunkel noted her concern was that the Council not lose sight
of what the issue is. She noted that time is a big element, but felt the
land use is the primary concern with regards to whether it is appropriate
to rezone two lots on the end of a residential lot to commercial zoning.
Councilmember Gunkel indicated she had not changed her position on this
matter which was opposition to the zone change. Councilmember Gunkel
noted that maybe the land use map should be evaluated and revised so as to
indicate that this area not be looked at as a commercial zone. She
indicated that she felt the businesses will make do with what is available
until there are some future changes in the downtown area.
Councilmember Engstrom indicated he was in favor of the zone change. He
indicated there was only one downtown space available which is the Ben
Franklin and further indicated that in a sense it was not available
because of the fact there is already a waiting list for. the building. He
noted that the two businesses do not want to rent but to own their own
building. Councilmember Engstrom noted that if there is any hope of the
downtown area expanding it will be with businesses building large
buildings. He further noted that the two businesses requesting the zone
change have no need for such a large building.
Councilmember Engstrom stated he would like to see the two businesses be
able to purchase property in the downtown area to develop their business.
He stated they have gone as far as they can for renting and leasing
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property and it
purchase property.
years ago this was
the time because
downtown.
is time for them to get roots in the ground and to
Councilmember Engstrom indicated he felt that five
not the appropriate time, but indicated he felt now is
the Elk River Mall is drawing some business out of
Councilmember Williams indicated he was in favor of the zone change
because it is part of downtown and coincides with the property to the
north. He felt it was an orderly transition.
Mr. Jerry Smith stated it may appear that the businesses have a large
selection to choose from for business location, but the fact is that most
do not fit their needs. He indicated they are basing the move on sound
business judgement and see no real alternative.
Val Hansen stated she did not understand why the Council would not allow
stable business to be an anchor in the downtown area.
COUNCILMEMBER GUNKEL MOVED TO REQUEST THAT THE ZONE CHANGE BE DENIED WITH
THE REASONS BEING STATED IN THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S MEMORANDUM DATED
JANUARY 17, 1986, ITEMS 1 THROUGH 6 ON PAGES 5 AND 6. COUNCILMEMBER
SCHULDT SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION FAILED 2-3. MAYOR HINKLE,
COUNCILMEMBERS WILLIAMS AND ENGSTROM VOTING NAY.
COUNCILMEMBER ENGSTROM MOVED THAT THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST FOR PROPERTIES
AT 907 AND 913 MAIN FROM R-IC TO C-2 BE GRANTED~ COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION FAILED 3-2, DUE TO THE FACT THAT A ZONING
AMENDMENT REQUIRES A 4/5 VOTE IN ORDER TO PASS. COUNCILMEMBERS GUNKEL AND
SCHULDT VOTING NAY.
6. Administrator Update
A. Consideration of Solid Waste Ordinance
The City Administrator noted that the
Landfill has been a concern of the City
time. The City Administrator noted he
technically qualified to evaluate the
compliance for a landfill operation.
operation of the Elk River
Staff and Council for some
felt the City staff is not
standards and level of
The City Administrator introduced Mr. Dick Nowlin from Larkin, Hoffman
to the City Council. He noted that one of Mr. Now~in's legal
specialties is solid waste disposal.
Mr. Nowlin noted he felt the City would benefit greatly by getting
involved in the regulation of the landfill. He indicated he felt that
by adopting an ordinance and subjecting the use as a conditional use
permit would keep the City more informed as to what goes on at the
landfill. Mr. Nowlin indicated he felt it was important for a City to
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have a consultant and a set of standards so they know how much risk
they are taking.
Mr. Nowlin
County's
landfill
orderly
impact.
indicated the PCA's concern is mainly environmental, the
responsibility is reviewing solid waste aspects of the
and making sure we can dispose of our solid wastes in an
and efficient way. and the City's responsibility is land use
Dick Nowlin stated he felt that by the City hiring a consultant it
would give the City more knowledge of the situation. He indicated
the City can control litter, hours of operation, landscaping, noise
and equipment through a conditional use permit. He further suggested
hiring a hydrologist.
The City Administrator indicated that the City will be considering a
conditional use permit for the RDF proposal and that there is some
information which the City Staff is not qualified to review. He
stated we should look at hiring a consultant and questioned whether we
can use the tax fund from the landfill for the development of a solid
waste ordinance and a consulting service. Dave Sellergren indicated
the money could be used for these items as well as for assistance in
the permitting process and the EIS.
Discussion was held regarding the fact that the City does not want to
increase the volume of the landfill. The RDF process was discussed.
It was noted that the volume would increase unless something was
stipulated stating the landfill would not accept the dumping of the
excess waste material that does not go through the RDF process.
COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO
START PROCEEDINGS WITH DICK NOWLIN IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SOLID WASTE
ORDINANCE, AND FURTHER TO CHECK INTO THE HIRING OF A HYDROLOGIST TO
TEST WELLS WITH CONCERN OF CONTAMINATION. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULDT
SECONDED THE MOTION.
Councilmember Gunkel indicated that maybe the County should be
notified of the City's proceedings.
THE MOTION PASSED 4-0.
B. Traffic Signal Request from District 728 School Board
The City Administrator indicated the School Board passed a resolution
requesting the City and State to pursue getting a semaphore
constructed at School Street and 169.
It was the consensus of the City Council that the City proceed with
this.
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The City Administrator indicated that the School Board has also
requested the City to consider installing a flashing light warning
signal near the school crossing at Parker School near School Street
and Holt. Phil Ha1s indicted he has requested information on the
flashing yellow and red light system and stated the basic unit would
be $2,000 and another $1,000 for electrical installation.
Counci1member
location at
Schuldt noted that there was a stop sign at that
one time and that it was removed at the City's request.
Councilmember Williams indicated he felt the traffic was becoming a
real problem with the Elk River Mall and felt it would increase with
the addition of the bank and Burger King.
Counci1member Gunkel indicated that the traffic has increased
significantly, and as the area continues to develop the traffic flow
will continue to increase.
The Counc i1
the flashing
School Board
requested it.
authorized Phil Hals to continue checking on the cost of
light system. It was noted that the City check with the
to see if they would be paying for the system since they
C. No Parking Zone/Main Street
Phil Hals, the Street Superintendent, stated that the City staff is
requesting a 'No Parking Zone' on the north side of Main Street, from
Norfolk Avenue west for 200 feet. He noted this area is on the south
rim of the Handke Pit. He indicated that the reason for recommending
the no parking is because of the combined hazards of volume and speed
of traffic on Main Street, the addition of pedestrians entering and
leaving vehicles, the narrowing due to snow accumulation and the
reduced visibility from the curve in Main Street just east of Handke
Sc hool .
COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS MOVED TO ENFORCE THE "NO PARKING ZONE" ON THE
NORTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET, FROM NORFOLK AVENUE, WEST FOR 200 FEET,
YEAR AROUND. COUNCILMEMBER GUNKEL SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
PASSED 3-1. COUNCILMEMBER ENGSTROM VOTING NAY.
Councilmember Engstrom voted against the motion because of the
shortage of parking space available.
D. School Street Sanitary Sewer Project
The City Administrator noted that the City had a request from Mr.
Babinsky to construct a 24 unit apartment building near Proctor
and School Street. He indicated that the City's Sewer Suprintendent
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noted that after the addition of this 24 unit apartment to the line
the sewer would be at capacity. The City Administrtor stated that
shortly after Mr. Babinsky's apartment was started Ron Kuhn and John
Weicht contacted the City with a request for an application of a 48
unit building. He indicated that Ron Kuhn has asked for an
engineering rationale as to why the sewer line is to capacity. The
City Administrator stated that Terry Maurer. the City's Engineer felt
the City would have a hard time rationalizing why the line was to
capacity.
The City Administrator noted that a solution to the problem would be
to build a bypass from the end of Fifth to the corner of Tipton and
Main. He stated this would prevent a sewer backup. He indicated this
bypass would serve 24 units and would cost $15.000 to $20.000. He
stated the City would have to inform Kuhn that the line would allow 24
units and not 48. He further indicated the City could use the fees
collected from the permitting process and sac charge to pay for this
bypass. He stated the fees collected would amount to approximately
$40.000.
Mayor Hinkle noted he felt the City should not have to spend the money
for a small repair job when they should be repairing the entire line
and putting the money toward the projecr.
It was the consensus of the City Council that the City consider
proceeding with School Street sanitary sewer project.
E. Planning Commission Appointment
It was the consensus of the City Council to authorize the City staff
to run an add in the newspaper requesting applicants for the vacancy
on the Planning Commission.
F. Information on Tax Increment
The City Administrator indicated that the Association of Minnesota
Counties are anticipating developing some legislation which would
include them more directly with Tax Increment Financing. He indicated
that up until this time the Cities have been required to have their
TIF plans reviewed by counties and school boards. 'but indicated they
have no veto power. He indicated the counties are attempting to get
more into the decision making of TIF. The City Administrator noted
the League feels the Cities are the most appropriate body to deal with
development issues and are requesting the cities to contact County
Commissioers regarding this fact.
The Council directed the City Administrator to contact the County
Commissioners regarding this matter.
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G. Request for Resolution From Library Board
COUNCILMEMBER ENGSTROM MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 86-5 A RESOLUTION
AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES IN THE 1986 LIBRARY BUDGET UNDER LINE ITEM
3401 MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR BUILDINGS (CONTRACTURAL). COUNCILMEMBER
WILLIAMS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 4-0.
7. Adoption of 1986 Budget
The City Administrator noted that $10,600 was inadvertantly left in the
fire department budget. He indicated that the $10,600 insurance line item
#3360 would be deleted from the fire department budget and that $2,973
would be tranferred to the insurance in the unallocated department which
would balance the budget.
COUNCILMEMBER GUNKEL MOVED TO ADOPT THE 1986 CITY BUDGET. COUNCILMEMBER
WILLIAMS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 4-0.
8. Check Register
COUNCILMEMBER GUNKEL MOVED TO APPROVE THE CHECK REGISTER. COUNCILMEMBER
SCHULDT SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 4-0.
9. Adjournment
COUNCILMEMBER GUNKEL MOVED TO ADJOURN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
COUNCILMEMBER ENGSTROM SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 4-0.
The Elk River City Council meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
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'Sandra Thackeray j'
Recording Secretary