6.1 ITEM 6.1.
MEMORANDUM
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ElkRiverTO: Planning Commission
FROM: Scott Harlicker, Planning Assistant
DATE: February 23, 1999
SUBJECT: Request by Art Peterson for
Preliminary Plat Approval (Star
Light Estates), Public Hearing
Case No. P 99-3
Request
Consider a request by Art Peterson for preliminary plat of Star Light Estates
Location
• North side of Meadowvale Road near the intersection of Pascal Street
Zoning/Land Use
Rla (Single Family Residential) / LR (Low Density Residential)
Attachments
• Location map
• Preliminary plat
• Memo from City Engineer
Issues
At the January 26th meeting the Planning Commission postponed action on
this plat. The Commission wanted input from the Police Department and the
County Engineering Department. The issues which concerned the
Commission were the proposed location for the future street and the plat's
affect on the St. Louis Park Gun Club. Regarding the proposed street
location, attached is a letter from the County indicating the proposed location
is acceptable. Regarding the impact on the Gun Club, attached is a memo
from Jeff Beahen, Assistant Chief indicating the 500 foot separation distance
• between the gun range and plated property would not become an issue until
13065 Orono Parkway • P.O. Box 490 • Elk River, MN 55330 • TDD &Phone: (612) 441-7420 • Fax: (612) 441-7425
Memo to Planning Commission/P 99-3
February 23, 1999
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IDOutlot A is developed. He also advises against the City getting involved in
public notification regarding the gun club.
Recommendation
It is recommended the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
preliminary plat for Starlight Estates with the following conditions:
1. Comments in the letter from Sherburne County Public Works Department
be addressed.
2. All comments of the City Engineer be addressed.
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CONSULTING ENGINEERS r1� tinici�tila►lns
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Consulting Engint srs
January 21, 1999
File: 806230J-0240
Mr. Scott Harlicker
Assistant City Planner
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
P.O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: STAR LIGHT ESTATES
Dear Mr. Hadicker.
As requested, we have reviewed the administrative subdivision for Star light Estates. Based on
our review, we would offer the following comments.
1111 1. This administrative subdivision proposes to create one lot surrounding an existing home
and then leave an outlot with approximately 13.5 acres for future development. The
outlot will be serviced with a public road off of Meadowvale Road (County Road 32).
The 60-foot portion of Outlot A, which will eventually become right-of-way for the public
street, is located approximately 200 feet east of Pascal Street. Pascal Street has a
significant amount of traffic since it is the only way to access Oakwood Hills and also
servicing a portion of Hobbit Hills. We would suggest that better separation of
intersecting streets along a County Road could be achieved if the 60-foot portion of
Outlot A for future right-of-way were located on the east side of the existing home rather
than the west side.
2. We would also suggest that when the future street to service Outlot A is constructed, the
existing home be required to relocate its driveway onto this street. This will eliminate
one driveway access onto County Road 32.
3. The easement provided around the perimeter of Lot 1, Block 1 adjacent to the future
street right-of-way should be increased to 10 feet rather than the 5 feet she 71.
4. There is no topography provided for Outlot A, therefore, it is difficult to assess if there
are any wetlands or other topographic features that will make the development difficult.
We have reviewed the aerial photography for this property and it appears there are
minimal, if any, wetlands. We assume that topography and wetland information will be
provided when Outlot A is further subdivided.
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If you have any questions or would like further information on these comments, please contact
me.
Sincerely,
HOWARD R. GREEN COMPANY
Terry J. Maurer, P.E.
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Memorandum
/ To: Scott H.
• From: Jeff Beahen
E 1k �•.
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Police Department Subject: St. Louis Park Sportsman Club
Per your request, I reviewed the memo received from the club regarding the
request by Art Peterson to subdivide a 16-acre parcel.
I would strongly urge the city not to be involved in any form of public notification
which would alert private parties that their property is within 250 feet of the
existing gun range. To do so would in my mind, clearly illustrate that the city is
not only aware of the potential problem, but could potentially open the city up to
vicarious liability.
It would be in our best interest to either encourage the gun range to move their
range inwards towards their central property area, or to allow the plat to move
forward. In that case we would be best off being up front with the owner and
inform him that no additional subdivision would occur unless there was a buffer
or undeveloped area which would exist between the range and the platted
• property.
The best solution all around, would be to have the gun range purchase the
property 250 feet wide along the north border of the platted area. This way they
would be insured that all future development taking place on the remaining
outlot would be in compliance with our existing ordinance. Hopefully Mr.
Peterson would be agreeable to selling off that portion of property to the gun
club at a reasonable price. It obviously would result in a win-win situation for
both interests.
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13065 Orono Parkway • P.O. Box 723 • Elk River, MN 55330 • (612) 441-2324 • Fax (612) 441-8937
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Sherburne County '
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ::
PROJECT ENGINEER
MARK LeBRUN
425 Jackson Avenue
Elk River, MN 55330
January 27, 1999 (612) 441-1722 . 800-594-5208
Scott Harlicker
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
P.O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: Preliminary and Final Plat of: Star Light Estates
ear Mr. Harlicker:
After reviewing the proposed plat, an access permit will not be required. Access has previously been
granted in 1995. However, the field entrance on Lot 1, Block 1 will have to be removed.
If you have any questions or concerns please call me or Dick Corbin at 441-1722.
Sincerely,
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Mark LeBrun
Project Engineer
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ST. LOUIS PARK SPORTSMANS CLUB
February 23, 1999
• TO: THE CITY OF ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
Reference: Case No. P 99-3,
Request by Art Peterson to subdivide a 16 Acre Parcel into a 2.5 acre
single family residential lot and a 13.35 acre outlot.
At the Planning Commission held on January 26, 1999, there was a comment made about
the fact the St. Louis Park Sportsmans Club should have built the Shotgun Range to
meet the 500 feet requirement as specified in The Firearms Ordinance
Section 404.12.2.B.
I would like to give you a little history of the Club Operation:
1962/1963 The land was purchased and the various Shooting Ranges were
surveyed and laid out. Shortly afterwards, the first Shotgun
Trap House and Shooting Pads were built.
• 1972 The Club House was built.
1978 Elk River Township was incorporated into the City of Elk River.
1980/1981 The second and third Shotgun Trap Houses and Shooting Pads
were built.
May 17, 1982 The Elk River Firearms Ordinance was adopted by the
City Council.
June 7, 1982 Pursuant to Section 404.14 of the New Firearm Ordinance, the
City of Elk River approved the St. Louis Park Sportsmans Club's
application for an Organized Gun Club Permit.
Surely, if we were building any range facilities today, we would build to meet the
requirements of the Elk River Firearms Ordinance. In fact, we have incorporated the
Elk River Firearms Ordinance into and as a part of our Club Rules and Constitution.
Also, we would like to point out to those who don't know, the St. Louis Park Sportsmans
• Club tries very hard to be a good neighbor and cooperates fully with the City of Elk
River. The Club allows the City's Police Department, the City's Police Reserve, the
Sherburne County Sheriff's Department, and a variety of local groups and organizations
such as the Boy Scouts and the 4-H Clubs to utilize the gun club facility without charge.
• Many of our members are Firearms Instructors and conduct several Firearm Training
Courses during the year.
THE CONCERNS OF THE ST. LOUIS PARK SPORTSMANS CLUB IN REGARDS
TO THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION.
1. The Elk River Firearms Ordinance Section 404.12.2.B. states that "The discharge
or use of a dangerous weapon shall be prohibited within five hundred (500) feet of
any building or the boundary of any platted area."
PROBLEM:
(When the proposed subdivision is approved, the St. Louis Park Sportsmans
Club shotgun range will be only be 250 feet from a platted area)
SUGGESTED RESOLUTION:
(As a requirement of and a part of the approval of the subject subdivision, the
St. Louis Park Sportsmans Club is granted a waiver of the Elk River
Firearms Ordinance Section 404.12.2.B.)
2. The Elk River Firearms Ordinance Section 404.12.3.C. Part of this section
relates to the discharge or use of dangerous weapons at outdoor target ranges.
Specifically, about half way through this section, " provided that the
discharge or use of dangerous weapons at such target ranges does not endanger
or constitute a nuisance to adjoining or nearby properties. 99
PROBLEM:
Depending upon where the houses would be built on 13.25 Acre Outlot, these
houses could be as close as 300 feet to the St. Louis Park Sportsmans Club's
Shotgun Range. This will be the closest of any residential home to a
Shooting Area on the St. Louis Park Sportsmans Range Property. We are
concerned that the original home owners and/or future home owners in
this subdivision may complain or protest of the noise coming from the
Shotgun Range.
SUGGESTED RESOLUTION:
Provide for the Official Written Notification to the property owner of the
• proposed subdivision and future owners of "The existence of the St. Louis
Park Sportsmans Shotgun Range which could be as close as 300 feet from the
the houses and only 250 feet from the common property line."
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Sincerely yours,
arry D. Stevens
Corresponding Secretary
387 196th Drive
Elk River MN 55330
Phone (612) 441-5887
E-Mail Address: hdstevensl@juno.com
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