09-23-1985 CC MIN
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THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER CITY COUNCIL
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 1985
Members present: Mayor Hinkle, Councilmembers Gunkel, Williams,
Engstrom and Schuldt.
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Torn Bublitz, City Administratorl Terrv Maurer,
City Engineer; Dave Sellergren, Citv Attorney;
and Darrell Mack, Sewer Superintendent.
1. The Meeting Was Called to Order at 7:30 p.m. bv Mavor Hinkle.
2. ~sE:uda
It.ems 10 1/2 Progr"am for" Star Cities Pr"esentation, and 11 1/2
Winter Road Maintenance were added to the agenda.
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3. ConsidE:caLiou_of_EE:asihi~iL~_SLUd~_Eoc_SaniLaC~_SE:wE:C_and
WaLE:c_Main_lmeco~E:mE:nLs_on_SimonE:t_Dci~E:.
Terrv Maurer, the City's Engineer, stated that he had
completed the feasibilitv studv for sanitarv sewer and water
main improvement5 on Simonet Drive, 6th Street and Xenia
Avenue. He further stated that the feasibilitv studv
included sanitary sewer, water main and restoraton of streets
and also stated that the cost per unit for sewer, water and
street restoration was 58,600.
Frontage road constructon along Highwav 10 was discussed and
the City Engineer indicated that he had spoken with Mr. Jim
Pavich of MnDOT and was told that according to MnDOT,
frontage roads are local streets and was also told that with
the current construction project on Highwav 10 there would be
no chance of obtaining funding in the foreseeable future.
Terry Maurer then stated that any frontage road construction
would have to be a City project using local funding.
It was the consensus of the Citv Council that Terrv Maurer,
the Citv Enginner, get a rough estimate of the cost and the
details involved in a frontage road.
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The City Administrator stated that at the informational
meeting held on the sanitary sewer extension, the people
mainly questioned the need for the sanitary sewer and the
City Administrator further stated that he felt the primary
cpncern the people had was the cost of the project. The City
Administrator stated that the main question to consider is
"What is the f'otential for' ser'ious pr'oblems in the ar.ea
a I r'eady. II
Darrell Mack, the Sewer Superintendent, stated that there
were three or four problems in the area and further stated
that if some of the houses should fail, there would be
problems in replacin~ the septic systems because of the fact
that setbacks from property lines and wells could not be met.
The Sewer Superintendent further stated that he felt the most
this project could be postponed would be two Years.
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5. Co~sidecaiioo_of_eeLommeodaiion_Eoc_eaciial_eaxmeni_Eoc
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(Items 6 through 10 are public hearings starting at 8:00 to
8: 30 f'. ITI. )
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10.5. ~coscam_Eoc_SLac_Ciiies_~ceseniaiian
The City Administrator indicated that he had spoken with
.Jac~: ie Schuel ier. fr'om the Chamber' of Commer'ce and she had
requested that he review the program for the Star Cities
Presentation with the City Council. The City Administrator
reviewed the Star Cities Program at this time.
11. Considecaiion_of_S~e~ial_E~e~uiiYe_Session
The City Administrator explained that the State Statute
pr'ovides for' a sF'ecial closed session to consider' str'ategv
for labor negotiation proposals conducted under the Public
Employment Labor Relations Act.
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11.5.Winiec_Boad_Mainienan~e_Seminac
The Ci ty Admi rli s tr'a tor' i nfor'med the Ci ty Counc i I tha t ther'e
is a winter road maintenance seminar being held in St. Cloud
and further stated tht it has been allowed for in the
budget. The City Administrator indicated that Phil Hals,
the Str'eet SUF'er'intendent has requested F'er'mission fr'omthe
Council to attend the seminar.
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12. Cbeck_Begisiec
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6. ConsidecaLian_Of_Besuesi_Eoc_QdminisicaLian_Eac_Ecanklin
,DceissisLeublic_8eacing
The City Administrator stated that Mr. and Mrs. Franklin
Dreissig who live at 18930 Concord Street in Elk River,
located in the Westwood SubdiVision, are requesting an
administrative subdivision to make lots 6, 7, and 8 into two
lots by extending lot 8 fifteen feet to the north and by
eliminating the lot line between lots 6 and 7 because of he
fact that Dreissig'shome is located on the lot line.
Mayor Hinkle opened the public hearing.
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Joe Serslove approached the Council and stated that he was a
neighbor to the immediate south of Mr. and Mrs. Dreissig and
further stated that he recommends approval of the
administrative subdivision request.
Mayor HInkle closed te public hearing.
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7. Qdminis1ca1i~e_sllbdi~ision_Ceglles1_b~_Mc__~icioc
ScbleissL~llblic_~eacing
The City Administrator indicated that Mr. Victor Schleiss
owns three lots on the corner of Main Street and Upland
Avenue and further stated that he is requesting an
administrative subdivision for these lots. The City
Administrator noted that Mr. Schleiss had approached the
City Council in 1983 requestins an administrative
subdivision of these lots for the purpose of movins the lot
lines. The City Administrator then noted that the applicant
is now requesting to put the lot lines back to the orisinal
state which is 69.96 ft., 66.00 ft., and 66.00 ft. because
of the setback problems for buildins.
Mayor Hinkle opened the public hearing.
Mr. Schleiss was present and indicated that the reason for
his subdivision request was so the three lots would be
approximately the same size.
Mr. Orin Beck from the audience, stated he lived at 420
Upland and questioned Mr. Schleiss as to what he would be
buildins on the lot.
John MacGibbon was present and stated he felt every lot
owner has a little equity in the subdivision in which they
are located, an therefore, every time an administration
subdivision is granted, the residents in the subdivision
lose a little of this equity.
Mayor Hinkle closed the public hearins.
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Terry Maurer, the City Engineer, stated that he had
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presented the City Council with a memo explaining further
the analysis of the .alternatives for the proposed School
Street Sanitary Sewer Project. Mr. Maurer explained the
three alternatives as follows:
1. Leave the proposed improvements. but eliminate Creative
Estates' property from the proposed assessment roll.
2. Revising the proposed improvements to only serve the
proper~ies between Jackson Avenue and Proctor Avenue.
3. Leaving the proposed improvements unchanged but reduce
the assessment to Creative Estates Propertv by the
1978 sewer assessment on that propertv.
Terry Maurer stated that out of the three alternatives
presented. the City Council had chosen alternative number
three. Terry Maurer then discussed the other costs whi~h
would be involved above and beyond the actual improvement
charges; those being sac char"ges and hook-up charges.
Mayor Hinkle opened the public hearing.
Mr. Leonard Babinsky was present and questioned how the
sewer would benefit him when there is alreadv a sewer line
in the area. Mr. Maurer indicated that the existing sewer
line is close to being at full capacity.
Mr. Bud Houlton stated that he has four acres of proeprtv
not being serviced by sewer and water and he is in favor of
the project going through.
Joe Crawford. representative of the Catholic Church. was
present and stated that they were in favor of the project
also.
Darrell Mack. the Sewer Superintendent. stated that anybody
who is hooked UP to the existing sewer line now does not
have a problem, and further stated that it is the prople who
want to hook UP at the present time that would be causing
the overload on the sewer line.
Larry Morrell was present and questioned whether anybody
else would benefit from the new sewer line and also
questioned whether the school would benefit. Larry Morrell
further stated there was a need for the new line, but was
questioning whether the charges were being properlv divided.
The low spot in the existing sewer pipe on Creative Estates
Property was discussed. John Weicht stated he felt the City
should have some responsibility in paving for the repair of
the low spot in the pipe. Darrell Mack. the Sewer
Superintendent, stated he felt it was not a big problem and
further stated that because he cleans it twice a year. it is
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not a problem toth~ City and further stated that even if
the lo~ spot were repaired, not hook-up would be allowed for
any building using a larse amount of water.
Larry Morrell, asain stated that he felt more people would
be benefit ins from the new pipes than are beins charsed for
it. Larry Morrell further sussested that maybe some kind of
a barsain could be made in that the City pay $3,400 of
Creative Estates Assessment Charse and Creative Estates pay
$5,000.
Mayor Hinkle closed the public hearins.
Mayor Hinkle opened the public hearins on the proposed
assessment for School Street Sanitary Sewer Improvement
Project 1985-2.
Mr. Leonard Babinsky stated that he would like it known that
he is obJectins because the City is reducins Creative
Estates assessment charse and further stated that he felt he
should also have a reduced assessment charse according to
what was charged to his property in the past for the sewer
line.
Mayor Hinkle closed the public hearins.
Councilmember Williams stated he felt the City had done
their fair share in tryins to help the people come UP with a
solution to the problem in that the Council held two meetins
sessions with the people and had come UP with different
alternatives for the assessment charses, and further stated
that he felt the people concerned could not come to a
decision. Councilmember Williams stated that because of
this, and also because of the fact that the construction
season is comins to an end, he would like to see this matter
tabled until sprins.
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Mr. BabinskY stated that he would also like it stated that
he is willins to pay his fair share, but he does not want to
Fay somebody elses share of the assessment.
A representative from Central Lutheran was present and stated
that they are havins sewer Froblems at the present time and
have been told that they would have a problem soins throush
the winter.
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10. eublic_8eacin9_an_~mendmeni_Io_De~elQ~meni_ecQ9cam_Eoc
De~~lo~meni_Disicici_~o__i
The City Administrator indicated that it was essential that
an amendment be made to the development program for
Development District No.1.
Mavor Hinkle opened the public hearing.
Dave Sellergren, the Citv Attornev, stated that the
amendment is necessarv to ma~:e available tax increment funds
for the project. The Citv Administrator stated that bv
amending the develnpment program in this matter. the
development program for Development District No. 1 would
acknowledge the public improvements in the Evans Park
Pro~iect.
Mavor Hinkle closed the public hearing.
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The Elk River Citv Council Meeting adjourned at 10=00 p.m.
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Sandra Thackerav . I
Recording Secretarv
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