04-02-2018 CCMMeeting of the Elk River City Council
ver Held at the Elk River City Hall
Monday, April 2, 2018
Members Present: Mayor Dietz, Councihnembers Olsen, Ovall, Westgaard, and Wagner
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: City Administrator Calvin Pormer, Arena Manager Rich Czech, City
Engineer Justin Femtite, and City Clerk Tina Allard
I. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River City Council
was called to order at 6:35 p.m. by Mayor Dietz.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. Consider April 2, 2018, Agenda
Moved by Councilmember Westgaard and seconded by Councilmember
Olsen to approve the April 2, 2018, agenda. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Consider Consent Agenda
Moved by Councibnember Westgaard and seconded by Councilmember
Wagner to approve the following consent agenda:
4.1 March 19, 2018, Minutes
4.2 Check register, check numbers 9933-9934 and 105621-105781 as
outlined in the staff report.
4.3 Amend Resolution 17-81 regarding the 2018 Compensation Plan
4.4 Temporary On -Sale Liquor License to the Davis Darrow Meyer
American Legion Post 112 for July 19-22, 2018, with the following
conditions:
1. Alcohol must be confined to an area enclosed by a fence with
secured, controlled access and limited to the beer garden and
grandstand. Wrist band control is required for patrons 21 and over.
2. Applicant must contact the Sherburne County Sheriff's Office to
arrange for security needs.
4.5 Appoint David Williams as the Parks and Recreation Commission
representative to the Arena Commission for a term expiring February
28, 2020.
4.6 Lake Orono Beach Water Quality Testing Policy as outlined in the
staff report.
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4.7A Hire Clayton Aswegan as police officer effective April 16, 2018.
4.7B Hire Jeffrey O'Connell as police officer effective April 16, 2018.
4.8 Resolution 18-17 for summary publication of Ordinance 18-03.
Motion carried 5-0.
S. Open Forum
Jack Lorge, 19490 Lowell Street — Stated seniors at the Activity Center completed a
survey which indicates seniors are in support of sales tax funding and keeping the
Activity Center at its current location.
Mayor Dietz expressed concerns with inaccurate information in the survey questions.
Council thanked Mr. Lorge for his comments.
6. Presentations, Awards, and Recognitions
There were no items.
Public Hearings
There were no public hearings.
8.V Food Trucks
Ms. Allard presented the staff report.
Councilmember Wagner stated food trucks should be allowed on private property in
the downtown district. She stated she is not in favor of the additional $40 fee to park
in the downtown district.
Councilmember Olsen concurred.
Mayor Dietz expressed concerns with allowing food trucks on concert nights feeling
there would be too many of them locating on private property.
Councilmember Wagner stated she believed the market would self -regulate.
Councilmember Westgaard reviewed past discussions about why Council discussed
limiting trucks on concert nights due to congestion and traffic. He further suggested
passing an ordinance and evaluating it at year-end.
Moved by Councilmember Wagner and seconded by Councilmember Olsen
to adopt Ordinance 18-04 amending Chapter 38 regarding Peddler's,
Solicitors, Transient Merchants, and Mobile Food Units but changing the
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language to allow food trucks on privately owned parking areas. Motion
carried 4-1. Mayor Dietz opposed.
Moved by Councilmember Wagner and seconded by Councilmember Olsen
to adopt, Resolution 18-18 approving notice of summary publication of
Ordinance 18-04 amending Chapter 38, Article VIII, Peddler's, Solicitors,
Transient Merchant's, and Mobile Food Units of the City of Elk River,
Minnesota City Code. Motion carried 5-0.
8.2 Resolution Supporting Local Decision -Making Authority
Mr. Pormer presented the staff report.
Moved by Councilmember Olsen and seconded by Councilmember
Westgaard to adopt Resolution 18-19 Supporting Local Decision -Making
Authority. Motion carried 5-0.
8.3 Discuss Work Session Items
Mr. Pormer presented the staff report. He discussed the following:
Council annual retreat to be held on either April 23 or 30 at 3:00 p.m.
Joint meeting with the various commissions.
Council consensus was to add both meetings to the schedule.
9. Council Liaison Updates
Council provided updates on the activities of the various boards and commissions.
Energy City
• Next meeting May 16.
■ Energy car feedback was positive.
■ Climate Smart workshop this past month.
■ Ten year action plan update.
■ Clean up day scheduled April 28.
Hentage Preservation
■ No update.
Library
■ Eagle Scout rain garden project.
■ New patio furniture installation.
• State of the Library Report at April 16 Council meeting.
• Library card contest through April.
■ Laura Wetch resignation.
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Parks and Remation
• Eagle Scout service project: Bike fix it unit at Hillside City Park.
■ RiverPlace development update.
• Woodlands Park Friends group.
• Skatepark update.
• Bylaws review.
■ Buckthorm removal.
• Oak Knoll Improvements.
Planning Commission
■ Mini storage item.
■ RiverPlace 2nd Addition update.
• Beekeeping.
Elk River Municipal Utilities
• Swore in new member and appoinments.
■ Reviewed and adopted records managment and data practices policy.
■ Financials review.
Reliability Report review.
Field services expansion postponed to 2023 from 2019.
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Councilmember Ovall questioned if anyone is familiar with the Bounce Back project.
He suggested everyone take a look at it noting it promotes health through happiness.
Council recessed at 7:28 p.m. in order to go into work session. Council reconvened
at 7:34 p.m.
10.1 Public Safety Building Expansion
Chief Nierenhausen presented the staff report. He discussed the current facility
situation with overcrowding in garages and offices. He noted accidents caused by
cramped space and current facililty design.
Council consensus was to move forward with Request for Proposals for architectural
services.
10.2 Ice Arena/Civic Center Referendum
Tom Betti, 292 Design Group — Reviewed layout and pricing options for improving
the arena facility.
Brian Recker RJM Construction - Stated Option IA would be the least expensive
option but he wouldn't recommend it due to performance issues seen in past
facilities. He stated going with precast concrete would be less expensive and give the
building more longevity.
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Councilmember Ovall stated he is disappointed the costs keep increasing.
Councilmember Olsen stated the precast construction is the better option.
Mayor Dietz stated fixing the arena is dependent upon how you review this matter.
He stated in his view this is a building maintenance issue so the minimum amount of
work should be done to fix the structure. He stated there should be no add-ons,
noting he likes Option 1 C. He stated the field house option should be eliminated
because it wouldn't get used due to recent surrounding competition. Mayor Dietz
commented statistics show there is currently not a need for a third sheet of ice. He
likes Option 1C because it won't affect the softball fields and it would save the city
$1 million with not having to add fields at Lion John Weicht Park.
Councilmember Westgaard noted Council direction, via motion, is for a civic center
referendum. He questioned what Council's plan is for the ballot, what a civic center
would look like, and the project costs.
Councilmember Wagner stated she has been working with small groups to ask for
their input. She stated she has discussed the referendum with business owners,
noting she has a meeting on Friday with a business community group. She stated a
multi -use facility may not be viable but the city needs the question answered in 2018.
She stated she is willing to change her mind if the feedback she gets agrees with
Mayor Dietz. She stated she can't say yet what she wants to do but will continue to
hold her meetings and could come back with a better recommendation of where she
is coming from at the next meeting.
Mayor Dietz questioned if Councilmember Wagner was looking at how a $25 million
referendum would affect the average business.
Councilmember Wagner stated yes and the Council still needs to be okay with the
project if a sales tax referendum doesn't pass. She noted there is a greater economic
impact with construction of a larger facility. She noted she has been working with
the county on the impacts and number of jobs that could be created with a larger
facility versus fixing the arena. She stated she will be better prepared to discuss this at
the April 16 meeting.
Mayor Dietz stated he voted to go back to referendum because people asked how
the Council can spend money without asking the public. He stated after thinking
about it, he doesn't feel a referendum would pass, but knows the city needs to
complete the maintenance for the arena. He stated the community won't care what is
in the facility and will only consider the dollar amount spent.
Councilmember Wagner discussed how a facility may bring in more businesses, more
homes, and more workers for the current shortage. She stated she wants to be able
to explain the big picture of what a larger facility does for the community if it's put
to a referendum.
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Councilmember Westgaard noted Options 3A, B, and C are not the actual costs the
city would see because they interfere with other items, such as the softball fields. He
stated the $10-12 million deferred costs identified in the referendum literature
included renovations to the activity center and Lions Park Center and not only the
arena. He stated every time Council reviews the arena facility it grows because
Council wants to add amenities for various interest groups. He stated Council should
go back to the 2012 plan completed by the arena commission which outlined only
their needs. He cautioned against the sand floor option due to previous known issues
and not having the capability to program the space during the off-season.
Mr. Czech stated the sand floor rink would require ice to be kept in one rink at all
times. He stated the cost of ice decking and the room to store it would be a wash
and suggested the concrete option. He farther discussed the issues with a sand floor.
Mr. Betti noted the cost of a concrete floor adds approximately $100,000 per ice
sheet to the project. He noted they take out a lot of sand floors to put in concrete
floors in other communities.
Mayor Dietz noted he understands the $12 million referred to in the referendum
literature did include the other facilities but he is not inclined to spend any money on
Lions Park Center. He stated the city should promote the 0.5% sales tax for the
senior center, the bond payment for the arena, and for Lake Orono dredging.
Councilmember Westgaard questioned the Council contingency plan if a sales tax
referendum doesn't pass because the facilities are continuing to deteriorate. He
questioned if Council should wait and see if the sales tax will pass before starting any
projects.
Councilmember Westgaard stated the original proposed project encompassed needed
repairs to multiple facilities. He noted how much the community wanted to add dry
turf and programmable space. He further stated the experts told the city the best
option was to consolidate everything into one facility in order to save on overall
costs. He stated if all Council wants to do is the arena, then go back to the Arena
Commission's original recommendation for a $15 million facility. He stated Council
will have to bond for all of these projects if the sales tax doesn't pass.
Mayor Dietz stated he understands something will have to be done if a sales tax
doesn't pass. He stated he is hearing people that want a cheaper option and he is
only proposing to put $12 million on property taxes if the sales tax doesn't pass.
Councilmember Westgaard questioned why Council doesn't revise the arena budget
to $15 trillion and keep forging ahead.
Councilmember Wagner further questioned if the organizations have been made
aware the city would be asking for $1.5 million in funding from youth hockey and
the skating program.
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Councilmember Westgaard noted the full amount would require bonding and
someone needs to visit with the organizations to work on tuning and whether they
are on board.
Councilmember Westgaard questioned what path Council is taking in regard to
policy for capital projects. He questioned if the city is now going to say to all future
stakeholders they have to come up with 10% of the capital costs and pay a user fee
that covers all operating expenses. He stated the city needs to be consistent across
the board as a policy going forward and noted this will not be a one-time thing
because other user groups and maintenance issues will occur in the future. He stated
there is a funding shortfall and a need for more space and amenities.
Councilmember Wagner mentioned Council's previous discussions about fees. She
stated she feels there is a need to understand what the city has and what everyone
will be paying before moving forward.
Councilmember Olsen discussed cost sharing for trails and cited the City of
Lakeville.
Councilmember Westgaard expressed concerns with timing due to the arena needs.
He stated these three facilities are not in any plans, they fell through the cracks,
noting they have to fit somewhere or the city has to get rid of them.
Councilmember Ovall stated the Council said they would stick to the $10-12 million
but he understands it is critical mass for the arena. He stated he needs to have a lot
of questions answered such as whether they are going to referendum for economic
benefits for something bigger. He expressed concerns with timing and expenses
looming for arena fixes. He stated he is hearing from Council that the civic center
will not happen so he feels we are back for the repair of the current arena.
Mayor Dietz concurred.
Councilmember Westgaard stated he hasn't changed his mind but feels Council
needs to forge ahead and address each facility on its own. He stated the arena
belongs at its current location.
Councilmember Olsen concurred.
Councilmember Ovall stated the city has a responsibility to take care of current
facilities. He noted the bare minimum maintenance to fix the arena is around $8
million but feels the city could add some value by going with Option 1C. He stated if
Council wants to spend $25 million, he wants the project to go to a referendum. He
questioned Mr. Portner about the pipeline of needs hitting the taxpayers.
Mr. Portner stated he needs Council to have a discussion about what a taxpayer
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or ice arenas and park improvements. He stated Council has spent millions of dollars
of non -taxpayer money over the last 10 years to build public infrastructure, noting
part of this was because of a recession that decreased home values. He noted the
values have been back for some time now. He further noted Council's goal has been
to reduce the tax rate each year. He stated these goals and continuing with services
are not compatible.
Councilmember Ovall agreed about Council's past goals to remain frugal during
difficult times, but which has now caused deferred maintenance during an expanding
competitive economy. He questioned what Council is going to do now.
Mr. Portner noted the deferred maintenance was done with the intention there
would be a final plan.
Councilmember Ovall noted a lot of projects have been done without planning for
replacement and there is a need for a final plan so things don't deteriorate.
Mayor Dietz suggested Councilmember Wagner have her meeting and Council make
a decision at their next meeting.
10.3 Woodland Trails Regional Park Committee
Mr. Portner presented the staff report. He stated input is needed for final planning
and design work for Woodland Trails. He stated Commissioner Anderson discussed
having a citizen group involving the trail stewards at the last Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting. Mr. Portner stated staff believes this would be the role of the
Parks and Recreation Commission with the intention of having a broader
representation of the community. He stated picking the trail stewards may not
represent the whole community. He stated since the commission meeting, the police
chief mentioned, that as a user of Woodland Trails, he would like to be able to
provide input on a plan. Mr. Portner stated Council may want to appoint a
subcommittee but this should really be the role of the commission because the
different types of users are the ones who should have input. He questioned the
Council, as the responsible body for selecting subcommittees, on whether they want
to have this subcommittee, the Parks and Recreation Commission, or another group
who would have a broader representation of different types of users to decide upon
the design and layout of a plan.
Commissioner Anderson stated the improvements are for the benefit of the users
but he feels it is important the key stakeholders are identified for the planning and
implementation of the grant, not necessarily as a separate committee but in addition
to the staff and the commission.
Mayor Dietz questioned which stakeholders would be involved with the project.
Commissioner Anderson stated groups like the biathletes, Nordic skiers, runner's
groups and mother's groups.
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Mayor Dietz questioned the process and whether users would give their needs to the
subcommittee to bring to the Commission.
Commissioner Anderson stated this hadn't been determined yet but there was
discussion about park stewards bringing in nominations.
Mayor Dietz questioned how many members would be on the subcommittee.
Commissioner Anderson stated 6-8 people but it could be opened up wider to the
community.
Councilmember Westgaard expressed concern and questioned if Mr. Anderson
thought the Parks and Recreation Commission would not be getting public input. He
stated the Commission will make the recommendation of what will go in the park.
He provided the example if he was park steward of Hillside City Park and there were
improvements he wanted done at the park, he would then assemble a team and
decide what should get built.
Commissioner Anderson stated the stewards would participate in the decision-
making process but will not make the decisions.
Councilmember Westgaard stated if the Commission is the lead entity; why not
utilize the same process used for other projects.
Commissioner Anderson stated you pull individuals from those stakeholder groups
to represent the groups.
Councilmember Westgaard questioned where the challenge is for Commissioner
Anderson.
Commissioner Anderson stated there shouldn't be one but staffs recommendation
was to exclude public participation other than the commission from this process. He
stated he asked for a discussion on this matter for four months and it was never
added to an agenda.
Councilmember Oval] questioned if there is something precluding Commissioner
Anderson from having the commission handle the project because their meetings are
open to the public.
Commissioner Anderson stated there's no difference between either the Commission
or the subcommittee handling the process other than it's a named stakeholders
group but they would be assigned tasks versus asking people to come to a
commission meeting.
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Mr. Portner stated the input needs to get into public record and the stakeholders are
a group of people going out and talking with others, which can undermine the
process.
Mayor Dietz suggested having a subcommittee to hold special meetings before the
commisison meetings. He expressed frustration with this agenda item. He stated
before coming to Council, if staff has an issue with something a commission does,
they should go back to the comission and talk about first.
Mr. Portner stated the conversation may have been misrepresented because staff did
talk with Commissioner Anderson multiple times but the answers were not what he
expected, and the grant application requires public input.
Mayor Dietz felt a commissioner has a right to add an item to their agenda.
Mr. Portner stated the difference here is staff needed to follow a process for the
grant and wait for the grant to be approved by the state.
Mayor Dietz questioned why staff is now proposing this be done through the public
meeting process before the grant is approved.
Mr. Portner stated it is because the Commission set in motion another committee.
Commissioner Anderson stated the reason he inserted this item, at the location on
the commission agenda as he did, was because it was before the work plan agenda
item for the project and he wanted to discuss it before that plan was approved.
Mayor Dietz stated he has no issues with subcommittee meetings being held prior to
commission meetings.
Councilmember Wagner concurred and felt the city should encourage as much
public participation as it can.
Councilmember Westgaard stated the charter of why the city has a Parks and
Recreation Commission is to get public involvement, noting all meetings are open to
public participation.
Councilmember Wagner stated this situation is different due to the amount of
funding which would entail extra meetings and work sessions and still allows the
commission to work with the stakeholders.
Mr. Portner stated it has always been staff's intent to gather public input. He stated
the original intent for the subcommittee was to involve only 4-6 people so bringing
in the additional groups discussed tonight would help broaden representation.
Councilmember Olsen stated there should be no limits set.
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Councihnember Ovall discussed his experience with subcommittees and how helpful
they have been to the Economic Development Authority.
11. Adjournment
There being no further business, Mayor Dietz adjourned the meeting of the Elk
Rivcr City Council at 9:23 p.m.
Tina Allard, City Clerk
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