4.1. DRAFT MINUTES (3 SETS) 09-04-2018
Meeting of the Elk River City Council
Held at the Elk River City Hall
Monday, August 6, 2018
Members Present: Mayor Dietz, Councilmembers Olsen, Ovall, Westgaard, and Wagner
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: City Administrator Calvin Portner, Finance Director Lori Ziemer,
Recreation Manager Steve Benoit, Code Enforcement Officer Dave
Hetrick, Planning Manager Zack Carlton, Chief of Police Ron
Nierenhausen, Arena Manager Rich Czech, Public Works
Director/Chief Engineer Justin Femrite, and Deputy Clerk Jessica
Miller
1. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River City Council
was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Mayor Dietz.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. Consider August 6, 2018, Agenda
Mayor Dietz removed Item 4.9 and placed it after open forum.
Moved by Councilmember Westgaard and seconded by Councilmember
Olsen to approve the August 6, 2018, agenda as amended. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Consider Consent Agenda
Moved by Councilmember Wagner and seconded by Councilmember Olsen
to approve the following consent agenda:
4.1 Minutes:
July 16, 2018, Regular
July 23, 2018, Special
4.2 Check register, check numbers 9945-9949 and 107021-107240 as
outlined in the staff report.
4.3 Staff reorganization implementing a public works and community
development department and requisite director positions. Interim pay
for Justin Femrite retroactive to June 18, 2018.
4.4 Increase part-time Recreation Coordinator Karen Wingard’s hours to
32 hours per week retroactive to July 24, 2018.
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4.5 Resolution 18-49 for state appropriations for the dredging of Lake
Orono.
4.6 Adoption of the Minnesota State Statute Parking Violation as outlined
in the staff report.
4.7 Development Agreement for Riverplace Second Addition.
4.8 Hire Dawn Regan as secretary/receptionist for the Police Department
effective Friday, August 17, 2018.
Motion carried 5-0.
5. Open Forum
No one appeared for Open Forum.
4.9. Nuisance Abatement and Special Assessment Agreement for 1772
Tipton Circle
Mr. Carlton presented the staff report.
Patricia Rasmussen, property owner, stated her son lives at this property and has
done his best to clean it up. She noted it has not gone well but progress has been
made noting all the vehicles are gone. She added she does not believe it would cost
$30,000 to clean up. She asked for an extension promising to have the property
cleaned up by the time she leaves for Florida in the fall.
Kent Rasmussen, occupant, indicated he had an issue getting items out with the
neighbors blocking the driveway but it is clear now. He feels he has made good
progress and would like more time.
Mayor Dietz questioned when the property was last inspected. Mr. Carlton indicated
Code Enforcement Officer Dave Hetrick inspected earlier today. He stated the
property owners would be charged the actual cost of abatement not to exceed
$30,000.
Mayor Dietz indicated the city has been dealing with complaints on this property for
a long time and he is hesitant to give the property owners more time. He stated he
would not be in favor of extending past the beginning of September. Mr. Hetrick
was directed to make periodic inspections and update City Administrator Portner so
he can update the Council.
Council consensus was to give the Rasmussen’s until September 4 to clean up the
property and if the property is not satisfactory to come back with new abatement
bids.
6. Presentations, Awards, and Recognition
There were no presentations, awards, or recognition.
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7. Public Hearings
There were no public hearings.
8.1 Ballot Question for the Local Option Sales Tax Referendum
Mr. Portner presented the staff report. He noted one change from previous
discussions is the addition of a motor vehicle excise tax of $20 per motor vehicle.
Council consensus was not to include the $20 motor vehicle excise tax because it was
not part of previous discussions.
Moved by Councilmember Westgaard and seconded by Councilmember
Olsen to adopt Resolution 18-50 with removal of the language regarding the
$20 motor vehicle excise tax. Motion carried 5-0.
8.2 Advisory Group Attendance Policy
Mr. Portner presented the staff report.
Moved by Councilmember Olsen and seconded by Councilmember Ovall to
approve revising the Advisory Board/Commission Policy removing special
meetings from the attendance requirements as outlined in the staff report.
Motion carried 5-0.
8.3 Line Avenue Improvements
Mr. Femrite presented the staff report.
Moved by Councilmember Ovall and seconded by Councilmember Olsen to
direct a formal stop of all work on the Line Avenue cul-de-sac project. Motion
carried 5-0.
8.4 Discuss Work Session Items
Mr. Portner presented the staff report. He stated a tentative date of September 24
has been set to meet with the School Board.
He indicated another item for discussion is the gravel mining study. He noted the
Council discussed the gravel mining master plan a few years ago but it might be a
good idea to review again.
He would also like to discuss possible Energy City demonstration opportunities.
The Council concurred with adding these items.
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9.1 Council Liaison Updates
Council provided updates on the activities of the various boards and commissions.
Energy City
Next meeting August 15.
Parks and Recreation
Touring park facilities on Wednesday. Seniors have been invited.
Heritage Preservation Commission
Did not receive grant for water tower because we still have an open grant for
drawings. Eligible to apply for another grant next year.
Next meeting October 18.
Library Board
Library working on budget. Discussing budget with the Council on
August 13.
New patio furniture installed. Swap out some for ADA compliant furniture.
Planning Commission
Did not meet last month due to lack of agenda items.
Utilities Commission
Policy and compliance discussions. Discussed reconnection.
Holiday lighting contest discontinued due to lack of participation.
General manager performance evaluation completed.
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ERMU’s 71 birthday was July 11.
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ERMU hosted annual MMPA meeting. ERMU set to become 13 largest
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Council recessed at 7:08 p.m. in order to go into work session. Council reconvened
at 7:13 p.m.
10.1 Elk River Sportsman Club Concerns
Chief Nierenhausen presented the staff report. He presented historical information
and reviewed previous reports.
Brian Opsahl, 21138 Macon Court, read the letter included in the staff report.
Chief Nierenhausen explained the Police Department conducted an investigation
and have reasons to believe the bullet did not come from the Elk River Sportsman’s
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Club but the investigation is inconclusive. He added the club made many security
improvements in 2010 at the recommendation of a previous police chief.
Edward Church, president of the Elk River Sportsman’s Club, agreed with the
chief’s comments about safety and explained the club’s safety and security measures.
He added they are looking at installing surveillance cameras.
Councilmember Westgaard stated he understands the Opsahl’s concerns but it is
difficult for the Council to tell the club they have to do things differently when it
cannot be proved the bullet came from the range. He added there was another stray
bullet incident last week on the other side of town, nowhere near the gun club.
Ms. Opsahl explained she would like the club to install cameras so any future events
could be definitively pinpointed.
Councilmember Ovall indicated having policies in place to check in ammunition and
guns could help erase ambiguity.
Jon Clausen, vice president of the Elk River Sportsman’s Club, explained members
log their own information and if any member falsified information the club’s board
would deal with it. He stated range assistants are on staff at all times to assist.
Brad Stevens, treasurer of the Elk River Sportsman’s Club, stated the range
assistants are club members and do a good job of keeping track because they have a
vested interest in the success of the club. He added only members are able to get
through the gates and access is tracked and compared to the gun logs. He noted
range assistants also check in with members to verify they are on the range they
logged.
Ms. Opsahl requested the range assistants physically verify and log all guns and
ammunition. She added they would like to see the gun club relocated given the
increase in population density around the club.
Mr. Stevens noted weapon and ammunition inspections do take place for non-
member events and non-members are not allowed to handle the weapon until
inspection is complete.
Councilmember Wagner understands the emotion of the Opsahls. She noted
cameras would only be good to identify issues after they have happened. She asked
Chief Nierenhausen if he has recommendations for other safety measures that could
be or should be put in place.
Chief Nierenhausen indicated he has no recommendations noting the gun club
exceeds the safety standards.
Mr. Clausen explained the National Rifle Association governs the club with
established range safety standards. He added the Elk River Sportsman’s Club exceeds
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all relevant standards adding the club consistently reviews safety protocols. He noted
the club conducted their own investigation in to this incident and does not believe
the stray bullet originated from the club.
Mr. Stevens extended an invitation to the Opsahls and Council to tour the gun club.
Chief Nierenhausen explained the Police Department receives several shooting
complaints city-wide each year stating he can run those statistics for the Council if
they wish.
Mayor Dietz indicated he cannot find reasons to force the gun club to do anything
after hearing about their safeguards and of the inconclusive nature of the incident.
He did suggest they install surveillance cameras and make security as tight as possible
when entering and registering weapons as he feels it would go a long way to ease
resident fears. The Council concurred.
10.2 Consider and Provide Direction – Outsource Recreation Facility
Information
Mr. Portner presented the staff report.
Terri Heaton, vice president/client representative for Springsted stated her
company can help provide guidance, communication strategies, and assist with
developing referendum materials to be distributed.
Mayor Dietz stated the goal would be to have information out to residents by the
end of September and asked if this was doable. Ms. Heaton believed it would be
possible but would have to verify with her contacts.
Councilmember Westgaard wants residents to be well informed and would like
assistance if there is a company who can help us disseminate the information.
Councilmember Wagner questioned if the city can legally facilitate some of these
things. She stated she is unsure about some of the things mentioned because she
didn’t think Council or staff could organize and execute referendum strategies
designed for voter approval.
Ms. Heaton confirmed Council and staff can present information but cannot
influence voters.
Mr. Portner stated the city’s bond counsel would vet all information prior to
distribution. He added the superintendent may also have a contact for a company
who could assist.
Councilmember Ovall is in favor of outsourcing the communications for this item
and would like to explore more options before moving forward to see what other
options are available.
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Councilmember Olsen indicated the Springsted information is excellent. He
understands time is limited but would like staff to bring back the Springsted
information along with the information from the school district contact so the
Council has more than one choice.
Council consensus was for Ms. Heaton to obtain quotes for design work from her
two contacts and begin preparing a contract for strategizing and for Mr. Portner to
obtain a quote from Prime Advertising and report back on it all at the next meeting.
10.3 Senior Activity Center Options (LOST Referendum)
Mr. Portner presented the staff report.
Brian Recker, RJM Construction outlined the multipurpose facility option.
Mayor Dietz questioned which spaces in the multipurpose facility could be used for
seniors. Mr. Portner explained the space would include a kitchen, billiards, workout
studio, meeting space, and much more. He noted there is also a café area, a quiet
lounge area, and the field house would also have multiple opportunities for year
round activities such as pickle ball and walking. He added the space is very flexible
and will include programming options not available previously.
Mayor Dietz stressed to the seniors they would have access to much more than the
2,200 square feet shown on the drawing. Mr. Recker noted the space identified in the
multipurpose facility would be similar to the recently built Shakopee Senior Center.
Mr. Recker outlined the current space remodel option.
Jim Hecker, 13196 Mississippi Road, stated a remodel of the current space would
keep the sense of community the seniors have now. He indicated the multipurpose
facility space offers more possibilities but is more fragmented and he’s not sure what
way to go.
Councilmember Olsen indicated he would like to plan beyond the current seniors
and he isn’t sure what the lifespan or capacity is of the current facility.
Jack Lorge, 19490 Lowell Street, said the seniors want to stay where they are at and
the Council is not listening to what the seniors want.
Anna Wagner, 432 Proctor Avenue, believes seniors are the future and believes
younger people will appreciate the space later.
Councilmember Wagner clarified the number of seniors who submitted ballots
indicating they wanted to remain in the current location. Mr. Lorge indicated 133
ballots were submitted, 131 of which stated they want to remain in the current
location and two were in favor of locating at the YMCA. Councilmember Wagner
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indicated it is a difficult decision and asked the seniors to give the Council some
grace as they make a decision.
Mayor Dietz agreed with Councilmember Wagner this is a difficult decision. He
stated he understands where the seniors are coming from and he would like the
seniors to appreciate where the Council is coming from noting cost estimates have to
be a big part of the decision.
Councilmember Wagner questioned the status of the YMCA information. Mr.
Portner stated the executive director had a conflict and couldn’t be here with the
information.
Jim Pepin, 18266 Concord Street, clarified whether this is all based on the
referendum passing. Mayor Dietz explained even if the referendum passes the
estimate to remodel the current location is $1 million more than budgeted.
Mayor Dietz expressed interest in eliminating the YMCA as an option since it
doesn’t appear they are too interested in a partnership as they have not provided the
information requested.
Councilmember Olsen felt the YMCA has many advantages.
Councilmember Wagner indicated she is disappointed as she felt the YMCA could
have served many people at a reasonable price but she’s not sure it’s worth waiting
any longer.
Mr. Portner explained there is a lot that goes in to this type of collaboration and it
was difficult for the YMCA to give us what we need with the level of commitment
we provided.
Mayor Dietz indicated he is not ready to make a final decision this evening but feels
a decision should be made by the time the referendum literature is distributed.
Councilmember Westgaard concurred.
Councilmember Westgaard explained he is hearing the seniors want a sense of
community and to be in one location but he recalls conversations where the seniors
wanted expanded opportunities like pickle ball. He wants to understand where the
senior’s priorities are because the multipurpose facility would allow for expanded
opportunities.
Mr. Lorge stated he has separate communities at the gym he belongs to, where he
plays pickle ball, and at the senior center and he’s not sure he would want everything
in one location.
Councilmember Ovall indicated the Council spent a lot of time discussing the
emotion and aesthetics behind the decision but not the budget. He stated the budget
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was set for $1.5 million and the estimate came in at $2.5 million. He feels like the
discussion would have been different if it was focused on the budget.
Council consensus was to defer discussion to the August 13, 2018, meeting in order
to allow councilmembers time to think about the options.
Councilmember Wagner questioned if the operational budget would be the same at
each of the locations. Mr. Portner explained a large amount of the operational costs
are salaries which should be reduced in either case as the number of staff may be
reduced.
Mr. Portner asked what the Council needs from him to make a decision. Mayor
Dietz commented he would like to know if savings will be realized in the
multipurpose facility.
10.4 Recreation Facilities Alternative LOST Option Discussion
Mr. Portner presented the staff report.
Councilmember Wagner expressed concern with the senior center remodel estimates
coming in at $1 million over the budget amount and questioned where the additional
funding would come from.
Councilmember Westgaard questioned which projects will be completed if the
referendum does not pass.
Councilmember Wagner outlined her ideas which included tackling some of the
city’s planned park improvements.
Mayor Dietz indicated he will only vote for the $16 million arena repair because it is
what residents have been told would happen if the referendum fails. He added he
would be in favor of the sales tax question being put back on the ballot again in 2020
if it fails this time.
Councilmember Olsen stated the Lake Orono homeowners are concerned about the
city walking away from the dredging project. Mayor Dietz indicated he would
support $1 million for Lake Orono dredging if the referendum fails as 2/3 of the
funding for the dredging has already been raised between state funding and the Lake
Orono homeowners.
Councilmember Westgaard indicated he would like to see other project priorities
completed but understands as things are added it would be a big number to throw on
a tax payer. He agreed at the very least the arena repair and Lake Orono dredging
should be completed.
Mayor Dietz questioned how long the state funding for the Lake Orono dredging
will be available. Mr. Portner indicated he will find out.
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Councilmember Olsen explained his number is around $20 million including arena
repair, Lake Orono dredging, senior center, and Lions Park.
Mayor Dietz did not agree with including funding for the senior center if the
referendum fails. Councilmember Westgaard concurred.
Councilmember Ovall indicated he is in favor of including $1 million for the
dredging because the other 2/3 of the funding is available. He agrees with including
the arena repair for a total of $17 million.
Consensus of the Council was for Plan B if the referendum fails to include a $17
million property tax levy ($16 million for repair of the ice arena and $1 million for
Lake Orono dredging.)
11. Adjournment
There being no further business, Mayor Dietz adjourned the meeting of the Elk
River City Council at 10:34 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Jessica Miller.
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John J. Dietz, Mayor
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Tina Allard, City Clerk
Special Meeting of the Elk River City Council
Held at the Elk River City Hall
Monday, August 13, 2018
Members Present: Mayor Dietz, Councilmembers Olsen, Ovall, Westgaard, and Wagner
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: City Administrator Calvin Portner, Finance Director Lori Ziemer,
Planning Manager Zack Carlton, Library Services Coordinator
Robbie Schake, Lead Patron Services Supervisor Brandi Canter,
Chief Ron Nierenhausen, Captain Darren McKernan, Captain Bob
Kluntz, Acting Fire Chief Aaron Surratt, Parks and Recreation
Manager Michael Hecker, Recreation Manager Steve Benoit, Arena
Manager Rich Czech, Community Development Director Suzanne
Fischer, Environmental Technician Amanda Bednar, Building
Official Bob Ruprecht, Liquor Store Manager Joe Audette, and
Recording Secretary Jennifer Green
1. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River City Council
was called to order at 4:02 p.m. by Mayor Dietz.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
4. Senior Center Facility Discussion
Mayor Dietz presented a statement outlining his suggestion for the future of the
senior activity center. His recommendation was appropriating $1.5 million dollars in
referendum funds to fix the current Senior Center. He stated a cost savings will be
realized by using the same construction manager and architect as the arena while it is
constructed. Mayor Dietz indicated that moving the seniors into the Arena/Rec
Center at a cost of $713,000 does not include at least $500,000 that would need to be
spent to fill the pond at the senior high school parking lot to provide additional
parking spots and doesn’t feel the cost to move to the arena would not be
substantially less than the $1.5 million dollars.
Mayor Dietz suggested if the Senior Center remains operating in the same building
to reduce the number of employees from 2.5 to 1.5 and utilize volunteers and staff
from Parks & Recreation to fill in the gaps and be more involved in supporting
fulltime staff to assist with scheduling, day trip support, and other needs. He also
stated he would request from the council requiring a required $25 yearly membership
fee for every senior who uses the building or goes on a trip, and he noted
membership fees could generate more than $25,000 per year and that money be set
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aside and be used in 5 years to purchase an adjacent parcel of land to be used for
additional parking. He stated all the seniors he’s spoken to have been very vocal and
wants to stay at their facility, which has swayed his decision, noting that’s a lot of
voters who won’t support the referendum vote. He stated he’s willing to sacrifice
something to ensure the seniors do vote in favor of the referendum as he doesn’t
want to see the referendum vote fail.
Councilmember Westgaard stated there were a number of emails exchanged in the
past two weeks regarding this topic and one being the difference between the
amount of JLG’s quote in 2016 of $1 million versus the 2018 quote of $2.5 million
received last week. He stated with this quote it’s hard to say what’s included and
what isn’t, and wondered if it was for roof repairs and fire suppression systems
which can be costly to update in his experience. He stated these building update
funds are necessary and separate from programming needs. He stated he appreciates
the responses from the seniors, who seem to know their priorities, but his priority is
from a dollars and sense standpoint, noting more flexibility and opportunity for
funds could provide not only current senior needs but future needs in a greater space
if incorporated into the multipurpose facility. He stated the current sense of urgency
is to determine where the senior space will be located and how the space is laid out
in order for seniors to support the referendum. He felt dialog could continue if the
senior space was incorporated into the multipurpose facility and felt $1.7 million
could provide a lot more amenities and enhancements to the space. He said if there’s
a desire or need for some of those spaces to be senior-specific, it needs to be
discussed to understand. He stated on the other hand, if the seniors want to stay
where they’re at, program the amount at $1.5 or 1.7 million in order to not upset the
applecart. In terms of staffing and required membership fee, he wasn’t sure if they
need to discuss that at this time but would look to Mr. Portner, Mr. Hecker and staff
as to what the programming needs are for FTEs. He felt the membership fee was
tough to impose because they don’t charge a membership fee for other places in
town.
Mayor Dietz stated the membership fee could be similar to a fee charged by Parks &
Recreation for programming. He didn’t think it was much to ask for a membership
fee.
Commissioner Westgaard asked for Mr. Jack Lorge’s opinion.
Jack Lorge representing Activity Center seniors stated the seniors would like to
remain at the Activity Center “hands down, without a doubt.” He asked for
clarification about a statement made by Mr. Portner regarding the value of the
activity center building and felt the most recent bid for repairs was out of line. He
felt the membership fee was reasonable noting St. Cloud charges a larger fee.
Mr. Portner indicated when JLG submitted their report they used staff’s estimates
from the city’s CIP of items like HVAC, roof, windows, and restrooms requiring
updating. He stated when 292 Design Group reviewed the building needs, they took
a much deeper look, and because 292 had recently reviewed another similar building
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built the same year and found asbestos and mold, it required deeper mitigation. He
stated they took those things into consideration when providing their estimate that
updated roofing and energy code requirements and the fire suppression system. Mr.
Portner stated the goal was how to make this building last another 40 years. He
asked Mayor Dietz about the decision to build a new library building instead of
expanding the building.
Mayor Dietz indicated they had the option of expanding the current building as the
building structure was sufficient, but chose to build new because the cost of new
construction wasn’t that much different so they were able to acquire a more suitable
property, with the cost difference not that much higher.
Councilmember Westgaard stated a similar discussion of the community center
occurred in 2016, and much to the surprise of the council after discussions of the
economy and multi-programmable spaces, the voters spoke. He stated if seniors are
indicating they’d like the city to put money towards renovating their current facility,
maybe that’s what the city should do.
Councilmember Olsen stated current research reflects in smaller communities that
senior/activity centers don’t flourish unless they’re intermingled with other
generations, especially kids, and that’s why he felt the YMCA would be a good
opportunity. He stated he sees a lot of kids when he attends the YMCA and he finds
it uplifting. He has read articles on loneliness and seniors, and he feels it’s important
to intermingle generations. He feels concern with joining the senior center and the
multi-purpose facility, noting during the school year it’s a busy place with traffic and
activity, and stated he felt seniors would prefer the comfortableness of the location
of the Activity Center. He suggested consulting with Mary Bauer, Community
Development Specialist with the Center Minnesota Council on Aging and he would
like to get her input. He would also like to continue exploring the YMCA option. He
said he had a brief conversation with Molly and the only thing holding it up was an
operational agreement. He stated he doesn’t want to be short-sighted and wondered
why they needed a placeholder to lock in such firm decisions.
Councilmember Westgaard stated not having a placeholder leaves that user group in
the dark, noting the voters shouldn’t be expected to vote for something when the
funds aren’t delegated and a location isn’t chosen, and that’s the reason for the sense
of urgency.
Councilmember Wagner stated the information she’s hearing this evening regarding
the seniors wish to stay in the Activity Center building is confusing because in 2016,
she had heard the senior’s concerns and they were lack of parking and their space
wasn’t big enough, but today, it’s all just fine. In working to find a solution using the
overwhelming comments taken from that process to find a solution to those
comments, she’s hearing they’re not there anymore. But on Wednesday while on the
facility tour, she stated she overwhelmingly heard Annette say ‘the space is too small’
due to the number of people using the same, and felt they were outgrowing the
space. She said in trying to find the solution and hearing the tremendous feedback
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over 2 years ago asking the user groups about the facilities, she heard, “We want to
be together but I don’t want to hear the pool players while I’m doing yoga.” She
stated she’s having a hard time understanding the senior’s desire to stay in a building
when there are these types of complaints and she wants the users of the facility to be
happy. She felt the $1.5 million isn’t solving the space issues, the parking concerns,
and the future programming needs; it’s only fixing an aging building, and because
space is a big issue she didn’t feel this is creating a building that will be usable for the
next 40 years. She stated this past week she kept hearing the Andover YMCA was a
great model and she wants to ask the group again: are we doing a disservice by not
looking into the YMCA to see if it’s an option. She wants to find a solution that fits
the needs of the city for several decades to come. She said they’ve talked about their
desired location but they haven’t addressed nor presented what the room spaces look
like and would like the senior’s input on that regardless of the location.
Mr. Lorge stated the drawings presented last week for space in the arena were too
vague to make any determination and would like more information based on room
layout details and what they would be voting for. He stated it’s hard to vote on 2,700
square feet of empty space. He requested the council get plans drawn to show the
seniors exactly what they’re buying.
Councilmember Wagner agreed but stated they also need to be careful when asking
an architect draw up plans numerous times. She indicated this came up very quickly,
and trying to take in the information now of the seniors not wanting to leave the
Activity Center, she wants to make sure she’s taking care of the entire 55+
community, and she feels they are trying to achieve that regardless of the location.
Mr. Lorge stated he wants to ensure the space continues to provide a community feel
and shared it was a life-preserver to him when he started attending the Activity
Center.
Councilmember Ovall stated he is obviously torn and seeing a 67% increase in costs
was a shock to him and one that he isn’t happy about. He stated he needed time to
process that increase. He shared how he understands the fishbowl affect when an
environment is too small and limits potential, creating a space that’s crowded and
unwelcoming. He hasn’t been able to get sufficient evidence to see where the senior
centers are growing, staying the same, or declining, and perhaps when they decline
it’s attributed to the area they operate within. That being said, he says they have
other seniors that come on board more independent and he feels responsible to
cover all types of users. He feels community is also a state of mind and behavior. He
stated he is still at a conundrum and would like to continue to discuss and review
options. He stated he spoke to four seniors since the last meeting and once he
explained more details and answered their questions, they were in support of the
referendum.
Mayor Dietz stated he is hearing uncertainty from the other councilmembers and
stated he thought they were supposed to make a decision tonight. He was concerned
with the timeline and literature being prepared for the public. He said he’s fine to
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have a placeholder of $1.5 million for a senior center and to figure out the details
after the vote.
Councilmember Wagner stated she didn’t think it was fair to hear the change in
details 35 minutes ago and the drawings presented last week for the multi-purpose
facility weren’t detailed enough, so it was hard for her to support it. She said if she
had to choose A or B, she would choose the lower dollar figure but it wasn’t that
simple after hearing from the seniors tonight. She asked if it was worth paying the
$100,000 fee to have plans drawn up by 292 Group and RJM Construction to
provide the seniors more detailed plans.
Councilmember Westgaard stated the architect fees don’t add up that fast but the
construction document fees add up. He asked if Councilmember Wagner would be
willing to lead a group to meet with seniors in the next few weeks to receive their
priorities, and along with Tom Betti, 292 Design Group and Brian Recker with RJM
Construction draw up plans and schematics to illustrate their needs and the sense of
community desired by the user group. He stated if that’s wasn’t supported by the
voters, then he suggested the $1.5 converts back to the updating their current facility.
Councilmember Wagner indicated she would be happy to do it.
Councilmember Westgaard stated the space decisions don’t have to be completely
solved by the end of September but can be worked on up until Election Day,
allowing the seniors to have an amended set of plans they can agree to and get
behind.
Mayor Dietz asked if the literature state $1.5 million spent either at the multipurpose
center or the current facility.
Councilmember Westgaard stated the budget is $1.5 million dollars and what they
saw from RJM was a small space appended onto the activity center building. He
stated the senior community space wasn’t even considered in 2017 when laying out
the multipurpose facility. He said they have around two and half months to prepare
and while he doesn’t want to speak on behalf of Tom Betti and Brian Recker, he
feels confident that they would be willing to meet with them to provide something
the community can get behind. He suggested that staff hold off on membership and
programming activities and just talk about visualization of space to find common
ground. He stated if they can’t see themselves at the center, they consider how they’ll
renovate the space at the Activity Center.
Mayor Dietz stated we may be setting ourselves up to fail the referendum as even if
the seniors vote no, the council would automatically keep them at the senior center.
Councilmember Westgaard stated it’s one of those things that doesn’t make sense to
him but it really is about representing the people that voted for them, and why aren’t
they considering keeping them at the activity center if they are screaming to stay
there.
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Councilmember Wagner stated she can’t say A or B right now and part of this
doesn’t make sense to her either, but they are put in the position to represent the
residents and she is willing to put in the work to meet with 292 Design Group and
feels they will work together to find a solution alongside the seniors.
Jim Pepin, senior center representative, stated he concurred with Mr. Lorge and that
the 2,600 sq. feet of dedicated space was committed to the seniors. He also stated
Mayor Dietz’s proposed membership fee of $25 is conservative, and felt the
acoustics are great in the Activity Center.
Councilmember Ovall stated if would be helpful to have Mr. Portner and staff also
discuss how programming would work within the space as he felt it important to
have that feedback of selling the vision that the programming would work. He asked
if the conversation of logistics have been discussed.
Mr. Portner stated they haven’t discussed anything specifically but would have no
doubt staff is already thinking of possibilities.
It was the consensus of the create schematics with 292 Design Group with guidance
from Councilmember Wagner and representatives from the senior community and
hold meetings to discuss activity center layout.
3. 2019 Budget
Ms. Ziemer presented the staff report. Each department reviewed their performance
measures and goals along with their budget.
Ice Arena
Mr. Czech presented a handout outlining his division performance measures and
goals for 2019 operating both sheets of ice. He indicated a ‘give and take’ will have to
occur between groups to schedule ice time and if referendum passes, other groups
will have to find ice time elsewhere. He indicated the possibility of staff layoffs for
part of the time the ice sheet is down.
The council took a short recess at 5:42 p.m. and reconvened at 5:52 p.m.
Energy City
Councilmember Wagner requested a sponsor be found to provide funds for the solar
picnic table. Mayor Dietz stated he would ask ERMU to support half of the cost.
Garbage
Councilmember Wagner stated she would like to see use of the Recycle Coach app
double in order for her to continue supporting it.
Fire
It was the consensus of the council to allow a firefighter to come on board now in
light of a pending March 2019 retirement.
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Mayor Dietz requested the council meet in person with former Fire Chief T. John
Cunningham to discuss his recent request for additional wages. He would like to
revisit it at a time when he can be here. He stated he wasn’t sure if it would change
their minds but would like him to have a chance to discuss points when Mr.
Cunningham is present. It was the consensus of the council to hold a work session
with former Chief Cunningham on September 4, 2018, to discuss his severance
request.
Mayor Dietz asked if employees can update their work phone voicemail message to
include their name so people know who they’re reaching.
Mayor Dietz stated he has received calls from concerned fire fighters regarding the
job position description for the fire chief and requested the position description be
reviewed at the September 4 council meeting. He stated the fire fighter concerns
were that they’ll be hiring an administrative-type chief and he wants to make sure the
job description is sufficient.
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Mayor Dietz and Councilmember Westgaard will be absent for the August 20, 2018,
council meeting and Councilmember Ovall will be acting mayor.
5. Adjournment
There being no further business, Mayor Dietz adjourned the meeting of the Elk
River City Council at 8:06 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Jennifer Green.
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John J. Dietz, Mayor
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Tina Allard, City Clerk
Meeting of the Elk River City Council
Held at the Elk River City Hall
Monday, August 20, 2018
Members Present: Acting Mayor Nate Ovall, Councilmembers Jerry Olsen and Jennifer
Wagner
Members Absent: Mayor John Dietz and Councilmember Matt Westgaard
Staff Present: City Administrator Calvin Portner, Senior Planner Chris Leeseberg,
and City Clerk Tina Allard
1. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River City Council
was called to order at 6:05 p.m. by Acting Mayor Ovall.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. Consider August 20, 2018, Agenda
Moved by Councilmember Wagner and seconded by Councilmember Olsen
to approve the August 20, 2018, agenda. Motion carried 3-0.
4. Consider Consent Agenda
Item 4.2 was removed from the agenda.
Moved by Councilmember Wagner and seconded by Councilmember Olsen
to approve the following consent agenda:
4.1 Check register, check numbers 107241-107428 as outlined in the staff
report.
4.3 Contract with Hakanson Anderson, Inc. for construction inspection
services until the vacant engineering technician position is filled.
4.4 Extend the deadline to record the final plat of Solid Rock Addition to
November 18, 2018.
4.5 Accept quote by New Look Contracting in the amount of $165,485 for
site grading and storm sewer construction for the 6 ½ Street and
Quinn Avenue improvement.
4.6 Resolution 18-51 approving loan agreement (Alan Arnold Corporation/
Ralphie’s Minnoco Energy Project).
4.7 Hire Thomas Chaffin as Police Officer effective August 21, 2018.
4.8 Contract for communication services with Rapp Strategies, Inc.
4.9 Accept quote for work on various small street improvement projects for
2018 by North Valley, Inc. in the amount of $103,535.37
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Motion carried 3-0.
5. Open Forum
No one appeared for Open Forum.
6.1 Volunteer of the Month
Acting Mayor Ovall presented the August Volunteer of the Month award to Karen
Staples. He highlighted the following:
25 years as finance chair on the leadership team of the Special Olympics
Fundraisers for Special Olympics at various locations
Assisted with Special Olympics annual basketball tournament hosted by the Elk
River Area 7 team
Supported Special Olympics athletes at basketball, softball, and bowling events
Worked Special Olympics at Otsego Prairie Days
Is a Certified Level 1 Special Olympics coach
7.1 Simple Plat: Dickenson Addition
Mr. Leeseberg presented the staff report.
Acting Mayor Ovall opened the public hearing.
Steven Smith, 18584 Troy Street - Expressed concerns with the future of Troy
Street because it is currently a private road. He asked if the road would be paved or
offer city services in the future. He questioned if there was any information regarding
the future of the campground (Wapiti Park).
Mr. Leeseberg stated the road will continue to be a private street. He discussed the
easement and how it would continue to allow access to surrounding property
owners. He stated he doesn’t know the status of the campground.
Mr. Smith questioned the type of housing proposed for the campground land.
Mr. Leeseberg stated nothing has been proposed to the city. He stated if a road were
to come in, it would most likely be on the middle of the adjacent parcel
(campground land).
There was discussion about possible zoning changes and whether it could affect the
road but it was unknown what would happen in the future with any development.
Mr. Smith asked if the residents were locked into having a private road or whether
they could have a road that is accepted by the city and improved with city services.
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He stated he doesn’t want to be locked into a private road and would like city
services in the future.
Mr. Leeseberg stated currently it would remain a private road because the city
doesn’t have right-of-way on some of the properties.
Mr. Smith noted the property owners would need to come together and be
cooperative in establishing the road right-of-way.
Michael Klopping, 18540 Troy Street – Questioned who has ownership of the
private road.
Mr. Leeseberg explained how each owner along the road owns a portion of the road
and there are easements in favor of the differing property owners.
Acting Mayor Ovall closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Wagner stated this simple plat is not affecting the road at this time,
but noted in the future someone can come back and ask for a zoning change.
Mr. Smith expressed concerns about maintenance of the road if the campground
closes down further noting they would have to come together to determine how to
maintain it.
Mr. Portner discussed the process for how the city would take over a road, which
would involve a taking and assessments to the abutting property owners for building
the new road and the infrastructure. He noted the current road is functioning as a
cartway, which has a different definition in land use. He stated the neighbors would
need to discuss the issue and decide how they want to approach it. He stated the
neighbors could petition the city to take over the road.
Mr. Leeseberg also noted some of the lots may become non-conforming with the
change in road ownership to the city.
Councilmember Olsen noted there are a lot of private streets in Elk River, which
create issues similar to this. He stated it is problematic in land use issues and not wise
to put them in.
Mr. Smith expressed issue with his road being called a cartway and the city separating
its responsibility, which he finds troubling.
Mr. Portner stated this was not the intent of staff and explained how a cartway is a
legally defined term. He explained the city has no ownership or control of the
cartway. He stated the adjacent property owners would need to petition the Council
as a group if they want to proceed with a different roadway. He explained how this is
like a private driveway on someone’s land to their house.
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Acting Mayor Ovall explained the word cartway is an old vernacular term used in real
estate.
Mr. Smith stated he would like to work cooperatively with the city.
Moved by Councilmember Wagner and seconded by Councilmember Olsen
to adopt Resolution 18-52 granting final plat approval for Dickenson Addition,
Case No. P 18-09 with the following conditions:
1. Surface Water Management Impact Fee (urban) shall be paid for one (1)
lot at the rate applicable at the time the final plat is released for recording.
2. Park Dedication (low density) shall be paid for one (1) dwelling unit at the
rate applicable when the subdivision is released for recording.
3. The new parcel (Lot 1, Block 1) will be required to hook up to the city
water system.
4. The existing septic system (Lot 2, Block 1) will be required to have a
septic compliance inspection and must be shown to be compliant.
5. An ingress/egress easement benefitting all parcels north along Troy Street
must be filed prior to recording the plat.
6. Any item or condition found indicating the site is likely to yield
information important to pre-history or history shall immediately be
reported to the city. Further, the city reserves the right to stop work
authorized in its approval until the site is appropriately investigated and
work is authorized.
Motion carried 3-0.
8. General Business
There was no General Business.
9. Discuss Work Session Items
There were no work session items.
10. Adjournment
There being no further business, Acting Mayor Ovall adjourned the meeting of the
Elk River City Council at 6:32 p.m.
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John J. Dietz, Mayor
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Tina Allard, City Clerk