04-14-1999 PR MIN
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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 14, 1999
Members Present:
Chair Huberty; Commissioners Dana Anderson, Dave Anderson,
Kuester, Olson, Westrum and Reitsma. Commissioner Peterson
arrived at 7:07 p.m.
Members Absent:
None
staff Present:
Phil Hals, Street/Park Superintendent, Steve Wensman, Planner;
Debbie Huebner, Recording Secretary
1 . Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Park and
Recreation Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chair Huberty.
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Consider 4/14/99 Park & Recreation Commission Aqenda
COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE APRIL 14, 1999, PARK &
RECREATION AGENDA WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONS:
- 7.A. - EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT - MIKE ARKEL
- 10.D. - REVISED CONCEPT PLAN FOR NORD PROPERTY BY RON BASTYR
- 10.E. - PETITION FROM HILLSIDE RESIDENTS
- 14.A. - DISCUSS JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL
- 14.B. - YOUTH ATHLETIC COMPLEX
COMMISSIONER KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
3. Consider Minutes of 3/1 0/99 Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
COMMISSIONER KUESTER MOVED APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 10, 1999, PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. COMMISSIONER WESTRUM
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
4. Park & Recreation Commissioner to Attend April Planning Commission and City
Council Meetings
a. 4/19/99 City Council Meeting - Commissioner Peterson will attend.
b. 4/27/99 Planning Commission Meeting - Chair Huberty will attend.
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Open Mike
Nick Peterson, Eagle Scout, was present to report that his Eagle Scout project for
mountain bike trail construction was accepted and he is awaiting receipt of his
Eagle award.
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Commissioner Peterson arrived at this time (7:07 p.m.)
Nick Peterson noted that there is some follow-up work that needs to be
completed. Steve Wensman indicated that several bench cuts and tree
removal will be completed in about 1 month, since the trails are too soft at this
time.
The Commissioners congratulated Nick on attaining his Eagle Scout merit badge.
6. BMX Update
John Thompson, representing the Elk River BMX group, indicated he is waiting for
information from Brainerd and Fergus Falls regarding their 501 C3 non-profit status
in order to submit their application to the State. If he does not received the
information soon, he will proceed with the application. If accepted, they will
receive an approval letter, and the organization will be reviewed in 5 years to
receive full status. Mr. Thompson estimated the cost of operating the track at
$5,000 - $10,000 per year. He noted one of largest expenses is trophies. Mr.
Thompson stated they need to know how long of a lease they can expect to
have with the city. Commissioner Anderson indicated that will be up to the City
Council.
Margo Foster indicated that an ad will be coming out in the paper to generate
interest in the BMX project.
Steve Wensman stated that the city administrator has suggested the city property
near the Elk River Youth Athletic Complex (ERY AC) as a possible alternate site for
the BMX track.
The Commissioners expressed their concerns regarding the parking issue for the
Hillside Park.
Commissioner Kuester stated he felt the initial lease should be no more than a
three year term.
Commissioner Dana Anderson expressed his support for locating the BMX track
near the ERY AC site. Phil Hals stated that the parking should be adequate at that
site.
The BMX group will make a presentation at the May 12th Park & Rec meeting.
7. Eaqle Scout Proiect Update - Rvan Anderson
Ryan Anderson indicated that 91 seven foot posts have been placed in
Woodland Trails. There will be 51 informational and 36 directional signs placed on
the trails. Ryan provided a sample of the signage which will be placed on the
posts. The Commissioners expressed their thanks to Ryan for his work on this
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7.a.
Eaqle Scout Proiect - Mike Arkel
Mike Arkel indicated he was interested in the Hillside Park mountain bike trail
system as an Eagle Scout project, either as extending the existing trail or creating
a new trail. Steve Wensman indicated that the current trail is approximately 1
mile. The Commissioners expressed their support for Mike to proceed with
planning a project to extend the trails in Hillside Park. He will make a presentation
for his proposal to the Commission at a future meeting.
8. Gilqenbach Race
Tom Gilgenbach was present to request the Park and Recreation Commission's
support for the Elk River Syttende Mai Run. He explained that the race is a 20-mile
run and a 3-mile fun run/walk through the streets and trails of Elk River to benefit
the Minnesota Chapter of the Leukemia Society. He indicated the race would
be held on Saturday, May 22 at 7:30 a.m. The race will begin qt Coborns and
end at the cemetery on Jackson. Mr. Gilgenbach stated that there may be up
to 700 runners, but he was expecting about 500. He indicated that he is looking
for help from the city to provide cones to mark the major turns in Woodland Park.
He noted that the Lions Club has agreed to take over the race next year.
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Discussion followed regarding safety concerns for runners crossing Highway 169.
Mr. Gilgenbach indicated they have worked with the police department in the
past to have the traffic signals turned to red, but they have had some problems.
The Commissioners felt that crossing Highway 169 should be avoided in future
races. Commissioner Westrum suggested the race could be started at Lions Park.
The Commissioners expressed their support for the event and asked Mr.
Gilgenbach to work with Phil Hals on the use of city cones to mark the trails.
9. Park of the Month - Lions Park
Steve Wensman presented a development concept, which he prepared for Lions
Park. The following amenities were proposed on the plan:
Improvements to play fields for soccer use
an additional volleyball court
a pedestrian bridge and trail
pond edge plantings to minimize the goose population
additional screening surrounding the site
additional shrub plantings to define areas of the park
Steve discussed planting larger vegetation around the ponds to reduce the
amount of erosion caused by the geese. He explained that there might be
liability issues if a bridge were constructed.
Commissioner Kuester questioned whether or not the city has ever considered
acquired the Houlton property adjacent to Lions Park on Jackson, which is for
sale. Staff indicated that approximately two years ago, the property owner
indicated he was asking $200,000 - $300,000 for the site.
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Discussion followed regarding the following issues:
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1 . Ownership of the park
2. Usage of the park
3. Parking in the park lot by high school students
4. Condition of the band shell
5. Lion I s investment in the park
6. Gopher problem
7. Geese problem
8. Vandalism
9. Suitability of open areas for soccer
Further discussion followed regarding the possible use of "swamp" type trees,
which may grow well in the peat conditions, such as Butternut and Black Spruce.
COMMISSIONER KUESTER MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT FOR LIONS PARK AS
PRESENTED BY STEVE WENSMAN. THE MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioners Reitsma and Olson indicated that they did not feel the peat soil
conditions were suitable for soccer fields.
COMMISSIONER OLSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT FOR LIONS PARK AS
PRESENTED BY STEVE WENSMAN, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE:
-DELETE THE SOCCER FIELDS
-DELETE BRIDGE
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COMMISSIONER DAVE ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED
8-0.
It was the consensus of the Commissioners to invite the surrounding property
owners and the Lions Club to the May Park and Recreation meeting to review the
concept for Lions Park.
10.a. Island View 5th Addition Park
Steve indicated that at the March 10th Park & Rec. meeting, the Commission
recommended a 30 foot wide corridor with a trail be included in the Island View
5th Addition plat. Also, the Commission moved to have staff and the Commission
work with the developer to locate a suitable site for a park that might eventually
be combined with property to the south for a park. Steve reviewed his concerns
regarding the proposed park. He indicated that Lot 2 of the plat is located on
part of the high, dry area and questioned if the character of the park would be
lost. He felt that if the park were attached to the MacGibbon property it would
have some value, but by itself it was worthless.
The Commissioners discussed whether or not to acquire the piece of park land,
which was shown on the plat.
COMMISSIONER PETERSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND THE PARK PLAN AS PRESENTED.
COMMISSIONER WESTRUM SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 8-0.
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1 a.b. Park Dedication Ordinance Amendment
Steve Wensman reviewed a proposed amendment to the park dedication
ordinance.
It was the consensus of the Commissioners to review the ordinance amendment
and be prepared to make a recommendation at the May 12, 1999, Park and
Recreation Commission meeting.
1 a.c. OSPD District Park Dedication
Steve Wens man reviewed language for the proposed open space development
ordinance regarding park dedication requirements. Steve explained the option
of basing the dedication on either the "yield plan" vs. the number of actual
number of lots created with a density bonus. The Commissioners discussed the
issue and they were in agreement the yield plan would provide more of an
incentive to developers.
COMMISSIONER REITSMA MOVED THAT THE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
RECOMMEND BASING PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OPEN SPACE
PRESERVATION DISTRICT ORDINANCE ON THE YIELD PLAN, IN THE CASE WHERE THE
OPEN SPACE REMAINS IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. COMMISSIONER DAVE ANDERSON
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 8-0.
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Nord Property
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Steve Wensman indicated that the Commission previously discussed a concept
for the 76 acre Nord property located north of Meadowvale Park. The
Commission indicated at that time their desire for 4 acres of park land to be
dedicated, as well as a connecting trail to Meadowvale Park. Commissioner
Westrum expressed concern that the northern area will only be used by the
adjacent residents. Commissioner Dave Anderson indicated that the trail should
be constructed at the same time the roads are constructed, in order to avoid
surprising future home buyers.
The Commissioners discussed enlarging the park to include the 3 lots shown to the
west of the park where it meets the road right-of-way. The Commissioners were in
agreement that the trail needs to be as far away from the residences as possible.
Commissioner Dana Anderson suggested that the Commissioners visit the site in
the near future in order to make a recommendation. Steve noted that a formal
application has not yet been received for the plat.
1 a.e. Hillside 5th Park
The Commissioners acknowledged the receipt of a letter and petition from the
Hillside Estates residents regarding their desire for no development in the Hillside
5th Park. The Commissioners were in agreement that the park boundaries in
Hillside 5th Park should be posted when the grading and seeding is done.
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Staff Updates
11.a. Area Recreation
Chair Huberty indicated that Jeff Asfahl was not present but that his
memo update was included in the Commissioners' packet for review.
11.b. Summer Trail Issues for Top-of-the-World Park
Commissioner Dave Anderson suggested mowing the original trail in Top
of the World Park for summer hiking, and closing off the rest of the park in
order to limit erosion. The Commissioners expressed their support for the
proposal.
11.c. Woodland Trails Park Improvements
Commissioner Dave Anderson indicated he felt it would be appropriate to
locate a temporary shelter. some picnic tables and a barbecue grill at
Woodland Trails Park. Phil Hals estimated the cost of a hexagon shelter,
similar to those at Lions and Orono Parks, at $15,000-$18,000 plus $2,000 for
the concrete.
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COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON MOVED TO INCLUDE $20,000 IN PARK
IMPROVEMENTS FOR 1999 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHELTER, PICNIC
TABLES AND BARBEQUE GRILL AT WOODLAND TRAILS PARK. COMMISSIONER
PETERSON SECONDED THE MOTION.
Discussion followed regarding problem with golf balls being hit from the
driving range into the temporary picnic site. Commissioner Dave
Anderson indicated the Elk River Country Club may be pursuing a land
exchange with the city to expand the driving range.
COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON WITHDREW HIS MOTION.
Phil indicated he will come back next month with cost estimates and a
recommendation for locating the shelter.
Commissioner Dave Anderson suggested that 3 boulders be placed along
the left side of the park entrance and 1 on the right to prevent bicyclists
from cutting across the grass. Phil indicated he would check it out.
11.d. Safety Program for Volunteers Workinq in City Parks
Phil Hals indicated that he has become aware of very strict regulations
regarding volunteers working with power tools, chain saws, etc. in the
parks. He explained that the city is responsible for the safety of the
volunteers. Phil indicated that that there are specific training
requirements accepted by OSHA. He stated that he will provide more
information when it becomes available.
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12.
Establish Park & Recreation Commission Goals for 1999
Chair Huberty reviewed the 1998 Park and Recreation Commission goals and the
progress which has been made on those goals. The Commissioners discussed
which goals to carry over to 1999 and new goals to be included. Chair Huberty
will prepare a summary of the 1999 goals to be included in the packet for the
joint meeting with the City Council on April 26, 1999, at 6:00 PM.
13.a. Update on 3/15/99 City Council Meeting
Commissioner Dave Anderson provided an update on action taken by the City
Council at their March 15, 1999, City Council meeting.
13.b. Update on 3/23/99 Planning Commission Meetinq - Commission Peterson
Commissioner Peterson updated the Commission on the March 23, 1999, Planning
Commission meeting.
14. Other Business
a. Ridgewood Neiqhborhood Issue
Commissioner Kuester indicated he met with the Ridgewood Homeowners
Association regarding the use of motorized vehicles on city trails and felt the issue
will be resolved. Commissioner Kuester noted the Association in interested in
creating an accesses to Woodland Trails through their outlots off of York and Yale.
Commissioner Dave Anderson felt it may be best to try an access off York and see
how it works out. It was the consensus of the Commissioners to discuss the issue at
the May Park and Rec meeting, and possibly invite the residents to the June
meeting.
b. Topics for Joint Meeting with City Council
The following items will be placed on the joint meeting agenda: BMX Project.
East Side 169 School/Joint Park, Tree Pre.servation and Trail Connections on the
East Side of Highway 169. It was the consensus of the Commissioners to call a
special meeting of the Park and Recreation Commission for Wednesday, April 2151
at 7:00 a.m. at the Perkins Restaurant.
c. ERY AC Fields
Commissioner Dana Anderson displayed a model for the proposed shelter,
concession stand and bathrooms for the ERY AC. He encouraged the
Commissioners to visit the site so that they could discuss the plans at a future
meeting.
d. Rid<;:lewood East Park
Phil Hals indicated that they have completed their project at the Ridgewood East
Park and encouraged the Commissioners to visit the site. Commissioner Anderson
questioned how much maintenance is needed for the park. Phil indicated that 2-
3 hours week is all that is needed for mowing.
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Commissioner Dana Anderson discussed the natural plant restoration project at
Woodland Trails which was done by Mike Nziolek's students. He asked if it were
possible for the students to try a project at the back of Oak Knoll Park. Mike has
indicated that the site has one of the most highly diversified plant communities of
anywhere in the city. He indicated the students would mainly by putting up
interpretive signs identifying the plant species.
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Adiournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER REITSMA MOVED TO ADJOURN THE
MEETING. COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 8-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Park & Recreation Commission adjourned at 11 :00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Debbie Huebner
Recording Secretary