04-14-2004 PR MIN
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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
HELD AT LIONS PARK CENTER
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 14, 2004
Members Present:
Chair Peterson, Commissioners, Nystrom, Polston-Hork, Paige and
Niziolek
Members Absent:
Commissioners Anderson and Kuester
Staff Present:
Michele McPherson, Director of Planning; Chris Leeseberg, Planner/Park
Planner; Phil Hals, Park/Street Superintendent; Terry Bye, Park Foreman;
Michele Bergh, Recreation Manager; and Rae Ann Gardner, Recording
Secretary
1. Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Park and Recreation
Commission was called to order at 6:37 p.m. by Chair Peterson.
2. Consider the April 14. 2004 Park & Recreation Commission Agenda
Commissioner Polston-Hork added an update on Ice Arena under Other Business.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORKAND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER NYSTROM TO APPROVE THE APRIL 14,2004 PARK &
RECREATION COMMISSION AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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Consider the Minutes of March 10. 2004 Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PAIGE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
POLSTON-HORK TO APPROVE THE MARCH 10,2004 PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
4. Park & Recreation Commissioner to Attend April 29. 2004 Planning Commission and April
19. 2004 City Council Meetings
a. April 19 . 2004 City Council Meeting
Commissioner Kuester will attend the April 19 , 2004 City Council Meeting.
b. April 27. 2004 Planning Commission Meeting
Commissioner Anderson will attend the April 27, 2004 Planning Commission
Meeting.
5.
Open Mike
No one appeared for this item.
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Neighborhood Meetings/Discussions: None
7. Park Development Progress Report
Park Foreman, T eny Bye noted that the department is gearing up for the season. They have
opened the Hillside Park early and will continue to monitor the trail conditions when it rains.
Mr. Bye also stated that they have replaced the worn out fencing at the Orono Softball
Complex and that the Adult Softball League paid for the replacement. They replaced about
half of the fence.
Mr. Bye shared that the Youth Baseball volunteers came and hung OSB at the Youth
Athletic Complex and the plumber was also working out at the complex. Due to new
regulations they will not be allowed to use the sink that was left from the City Hall
construction. T eny Bye is looking into purchasing a new sink.
Mr. Bye stated that the electrician was working on the Youth Athletic Complex concession
stand. They now have power to the stand and running out to the batting cage and holding
tank.
Mr. Bye shared that fields Five and Six have been requested for practice by May 1st. Mr. Bye
stated that after the road restrictions are lifted they would haul ag lime out to the fields.
Mr. Bye stated that Case Hayward is back working for the department for the summer. Case
is in the process of watering trees at the Youth Athletic Complex. Case will also be going
over the ball fields to pick up thatch to make them look nice.
Mr. Bye shared that the plumber has been out at Trott Brook Barn and everything has been
installed. The plumber needs to come back and replace the toilets that were not handicap
accessible; they also need to move the water fountain to make it handicap accessible. Mr.
Bye also shared that the ceramic tile is complete and the painter will be there next week. Mr.
Bye stated that things should be close to running by May 1, 2004.
Mr. Bye stated that he was approached about having a clean up day at Windsor Park on
April 24th. The resident wanted to know if the Streets Department would be interested in
helping with pick up. The resident also asked Mr. Bye about the plans for the park.
Mr. Bye also shared that Sentence to Serve was out and helped with the Great River Energy
hill to remove under brush and they were also out at the Youth Athletic Complex and the
prairie by Elk River Bowl.
Commissioner Niziolek shared that Ditch 31 looks like it has been cleared and the water
level appeared to have decreased. Commissioner Niziolek also shared he was concerned
about the trail and that it when they are finished clearing Ditch 31 will have to be leveled so
that the cross country running team does not get hurt.
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City Recreation Update
Recreation Manager, Michele Bergh shared a letter from Mike Roden with TRSA about
working with the City to develop more soccer fields and a complex that could be centrally
located in Elk River.
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Ms. Bergh stated that the department is moving forward with plans to begin accepting
Internet registrations this year. The department will be making the necessary adjustments
and plan on having the system up and running for the September-October Program Guide.
Ms. Bergh shared that the department is very excited about implementing this program and
believe it will make things much easier for the customer.
Ms. Bergh also shared that she had 6th grade visitors form Salk and VandenBerge through
their Education to Employment program. The students came with a parent volunteer and
worked on a math word problem about the Easter Egg Hunt to show how staff uses math in
our daily work.
Ms. Bergh reviewed the programs that are running during the month of March. Programs
include Tumbling, Pee Wee Basketball, Parent and Tot Tumbling during the day, Preschool
Tumbling, Parents Night Out and a 4 Square Tournament.
Ms. Bergh stated that the department is working hard to increase its exposure and let people
know about the programs and that there is no longer a non-resident fee. Ms. Bergh shared
that they are already seeing a growth in non-residents calling with questions and to register
for programs because of the change. Ms. Bergh also shared that they participated in the
Business Expo, complete with a "Lions Den" and a lion roaming the halls of the high
school. Ms. Bergh shared a couple of pictures from the Business Expo. Ms. Bergh also
stated that they would be participating in the Meadowvale and Lincoln Elementary carnivals
doing face painting and promoting programs.
Ms. Bergh shared an update on facility use for the month of March, and shared that they are
busy working with Adult Softball, Youth Baseball, Girls Softball and 1RSA to reserve
summer field space. Ms. Bergh stated that they would be conducting a coaches training
again for the Girls Softball on April 26th. Ms. Bergh explained that the training certifies Girls
Softball coaches with National Alliance for Youth Sports.
Ms. Bergh shared that the Wellness Committee is very busy with the Shape Up Challenge
through Medica. The city has seven teams of five employees participating.
Ms. Bergh stated that summer programming is almost complete and the first summer
program guide was delivered on April 7th. Ms. Bergh stated that she did not have to do any
outside advertising for summer staff almost all of them are returning from last summer.
Ms. Bergh shared that the Easter Egg hunt was held at Woodlands Park on April 10th. Ms.
Bergh stated that the National Honor Society students from the Elk River Senior High
School were very helpful and great to work with. Ms. Bergh also shared that the Four
Square Tournament was a huge success that was held here at Lions Park Center. Ms. Bergh
shared that they are preparing to have a large family event on Wednesday, May 26th to
promote summer programs. This event is also co-sponsored by the YMCA and will take
place at Lions Park. They will have food, face painting, a moonwalk, pony rides and more.
Ms. Bergh stated that they are gearing up to get the concessions stands up and running by
the end of the month.
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9.B.1. Affirm Recommendation for Woodland Hills Park Dedication
Chair Peterson along with Commissioners Kuester and Anderson reviewed the
recommendation that was made at the March 10, 2004 meeting to see what it would cost
before sending the recommendation to City Council. Chair Peterson questioned if
condemnation was good at this time and for this property use. Chair Peterson was worried
that this might hurt the relationships with developers and City Council and could cost
$300,000 to get 1.8 acres of land. Commissioner Peterson shared that they were concerned
about the need for a road access to the wellhouse and that the Commission said they would
place a playground in the development. Chair Peterson shared the following
recommendations:
1. The road to the wellhouse be taken out.
2. The siting of the playground will be determined after the park has been marked.
3. The diameter of the cul-de-sac on the south end be reduced as much as possible to allow
for easier security and to lessen the impact on the area.
4. That there be a consideration of a variance in the house setback from the road for those
lots that back up to the park to allow for more trees to be saved.
5. That there be a vibratory plowing along the line - preferably in the development in front
of the tree line to prevent the spread of oak wilt.
6. That there be a underplanting of White Pine as a screening along the property line.
Commissioner Paige questioned if we needed to turn the 200- foot buffer into parkland. He
wondered if they can pursue other means of protection such as conservation.
Commissioner Niziolek made a recommendation to break it down into pieces and start with
the road to the well house.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER NIZIOLEK AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORK TO DROP THE ROAD THAT LEADS TO
THE WELLHOUSE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
The Commission discussed the need for a playground in the development. Commissioner
Niziolek requested an explanation of why the Meadowvale School playground could not be
used by the neighborhood.
Director of Planning McPherson reviewed the site conditions at Meadowvale Elementary
School.
Commissioner Niziolek recommended taking two lots overlooking the Meadowvale wetland
for the park and adding the two lots to the south east end.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORKAND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER PAIGE TO RECOMMEND TAKING OUTLOT G AND LOTS
4 BLOCK 4 FORA NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, CREATE A BUFFER ALONG
THE RAILROAD GRADE THROUGH PARK DEDICATION, AND
CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ALONG WITH DOING PROACTIVE
MEASURES TO PROTECT THE AREA FROM OAK WILT. MOTION
CARRIED 5-0
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9.B.2. Consider Park Dedication AS 04-01 Thompson Addition
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Director of Planning, Michele McPherson reported the applicant is proposing to create a 10-
acre parcel out of a 59-acre parcel. The subject property is outside of any area-wide or
neighborhood park target area and would be too small to request land dedication. The site is
adjacent to County Road 1 that contains wide roadside ditches.
Ms. McPherson recommended that the Commission look at establishing a subcommittee to
study the feasibility of off-street detached pedestrian facilities along County Road 1.
Commissioner Nystrom shared that he does not believe a 100-foot right-of-way is enough
and recommends they take 30 additional feet of land to make a 150-foot right-of-way.
Commissioner Paige questioned if they would have enough room to go behind the pines
with a trail.
Ms. McPherson will get the County's plans for County Road 1 and share them at the next
Park and Recreation Commission meeting.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER NIZIOLEK AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER POLSTON-HORK TO ACCEPT STAFF
RECOMMENDATION FORA CASH DEDICATION FOR ONE LOT FOR
PARK DEDICATION PURPOSES. MOTION CARRIED 3-2 Commissioner
Nystrom and Commissioner Paige opposed.
Consider Park Dedication AS 04-02 Wemer Addition
Director of Planning, Michele McPherson reported the subject property is located east of
Oeveland Street (County Road 40) approximately ~ mile north of County Road 12. Ms.
McPherson shared that the applicant is requesting an administrative subdivision to create
three lots out of a 19.31-acre parcel. Located on the property is a single-family home with
multiple out buildings. A large electric line and easement cross the property from southeast
to northwest. There is a low area through the westerly portion of the property. Ms.
McPherson shared that the property is outside of a neighborhood park target area, and
would not provide sufficient connected land area to provide a neighborhood park.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PAIGE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
NIZIOLEK TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO RECOMMEND TO
THE CITY COUNCIL CASH DEDICATION FOR TWO LOTS. MOTION
CARRIED 5-0
Consider Park Dedication P 04-08 Trout Brook Estates
Park Planner, Chris Leeseberg reported the subject property is located adjacent to Trott
Brook Farms and Oudot-K and east of County Road 13. The 115.56-acre property has a
variety of highland, lowland, wedand and forested areas with moderate changes in
topography. The plat will have one access point off of County Road 13 and one connection
into Trott Brook Farms. The proposed plat is comprised of 55 single-family lots and 58
twinhome lots for a total of 171 units.
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Mr. Leeseberg shared that a trail corridor is being proposed from the cul-de-sac of Becker
Trail to Street D. The Commission discussed the potential of connecting a trail corridor
from the end of Becker Trail to the cul-de-sac of Street E. The Wetland Technical
Evaluation Panel will not allow any wetlands to be filled for trail purposes. Mr. Leeseberg
also shared that the potential location of a trail corridor to Street E has two storm water
holding ponds that make it difficult if not impossible to provide this trail. Staff would
recommend that the trail connection from Street D be moved west to between Lots 2 & 3,
Block 16 and that the park boundary end at the southeast comer of Lot-3, Block 16.
Commissioner Niziolek stated that he does not think it is good practice to put trail in
people's back yards.
Commissioner Paige would like to see the trail connection to Street E, and suggested moving
the trail into Outlot K to move it away from the backyards.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PETERSON AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER PAIGE TO ACCEPT 9.31 ACRES OF PARK lAND IN
OUTLOT G AND ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THE
TRAIL FROM LOTS 5 & 6 TO 2 & 3, BLOCK 16. MOTION CARRIED 5-0
Review Interview Questions - Park and Recreation Director
Director of Planning, Michele McPherson gave an update on the applications received for
the Park and Recreation Director job position. As of Apri114, 2004 the City had received 26
applications with six requests that had not been returned. Nine of these applications are
from out of state. Ms. McPherson shared that staff will construct the questions for the
interview. Commissioner Kuester, Commissioner Paige, Councilmember Dietz and
Councilmember Tveite will be on the interview committee.
Discuss Park Development Standard Operating Procedures
Director of Planning, Michele McPherson shared a list that staff has created for park
development and asked the Commission for any comments.
Commissioner Polston-Hork would like to add the concept of review during plat approval.
Commissioner Niziolek requested to add under number two, "natural, plant and animal
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areas .
Ms. McPherson will revise the list and bring it to the May Commission meeting for approval.
9.C.3. Discuss Big Tooth Ridge Park Development Plans
Director of Planning, Michele McPherson asked if anyone had a chance to visit Big Tooth
Ridge and if they have any thoughts or opinions on how the park should be developed.
Commissioner Niziolek would like to see a walking trail with switchbacks. Start a walking
trail system on the south backside of the wetland around to Ridgewood. Commissioner
Niziolek stated that they need a definite barrier to define City property.
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Conunissioner Peterson shared that the west end with the hill is a challenge to walk.
Park/Street Superintendent Phil Hals shared that he can get a brush grinder to clean up the
underbrush and limbs of the trees that have already been cut down.
Conunissioner Niziolek warned that they will need to be careful not to btunp into any of the
oak trees or oak wilt can take over.
10. Information/Update Items
TIlls information was presented to the Conunissioners in their packets. No action was
required.
A. Land Use Cases: None
B. Park/Trail Developments:
1. Park Dedication Fund Balance
2. YMCA Update
3. Article - "Grooming Garbage for Golf"
4. Article - "Ice Arena's Fate to be Decided Soon"
5. Article - "At this Library, There's Nothing to Check Out"
11. Update on March 15. 2004 Gty Council Meeting
Co~ssioner Polston-Hork provided an update on the March 15, 2003 Gty Council
meetmg.
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Update on March 23. 2004 Planning Conunission Meeting
Conunissioner Kuester was absent from the meeting. Conunissioner Peterson gave an
update.
13. Other Business
A. Ice Arena Update - Conunissioner Polston-Hork shared that at the March 10, 2004 Ice
Arena Conunission meeting the Youth Hockey wanted to know if the Gty of Elk River
would be interested in a partnership to have a rink using the old hockey boards from the
barn side of the arena. Youth Hockey said they would maintain the rink.
~ark/Street Superintendent Phil Hals brought up warming house and staff costs as an
Issue.
Chair Peterson suggested putting together a small group from the Park and Recreation
Conunission, staff and Youth Hockey Association to discuss possibilities for an outdoor
rink.
B. Director of Planning, Michele McPherson shared that the bids were opened for the
paving projects for Lions Park and Highlands West; the total was $85,000.
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Adiournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:42pm.
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Respectfully submitted,
Recording Secretary