09-28-1999 PC MIN
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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28,1999
Members Present:
Chair Cote, Commissioners Chambers, Kuester, Thompson and
Schuster
Members Absent:
Commissioner Mesich
Staff Present:
Michele McPherson, Director of Planning; Scott Harlicker, Senior
Planner; Debbie Huebner, Recording Secretary
1. Call Meetinq To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Planning
Commission was called to order at 7:50 p.m. by Chair Cote.
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Consider 9/28/99 Plannina Commission Aaenda
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 28, 1999,
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITION:
ADD ITEM 5.4.A. - APPROVAL OF DESIGN STANDARDS
COMMISSIONER CHAMBERS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
3. Consider Plannina Commission Minutes
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 24, 1999, MINUTES.
COMMISSIONER KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
4. Planninq Commission Representative to Attend October 18, 1999, City Council
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Commissioner Schuster is unable to attend the October 18, 1999, City Council
meeting. Commissioner Thompson is tentatively scheduled to take Commissioner
Schuster's place.
5.1. Reauest by City of Elk River for Ordinance Amendment to Allow Liauor Stores
Sellinq Packaqed Goods as a Conditional Use in the C-3, Hiahway Commercial
Zonina District Public Hearinq Case No. OA 99-15
Staff report by Michele McPherson. The City of Elk River requests that the C3
(Highway Commercial) District be amended to allow off-sale liquor stores as a
conditional use.
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Allina Heath Care is interested in acquiring the city-owned lot to combine with
two adjoining lots in order to construct a medical clinic. The City Council would
like to ensure that if the property is rezoned to C3 Highway Commercial and then
is not sold to Allina, the city will have the option to construct a liquor store on the
site.
Chair Cote opened the public hearing.
Carol Mills, representative of Guardian Angels, felt the ordinance amendment
was premature.
There being no further comments from the public, Chair Cote closed the public
hearing.
Commissioner Kuester stated she felt the use should already have been permitted
in the C3 zoning. Commissioner Thompson stated that she felt the use required a
conditional use permit, so that controls can be set.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST
BY THE CITY OF ELK RIVER FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW OFF-SALE
LIQUOR STORES AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE C3, HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT, PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. OA 99-15. COMMISSIONER CHAMBERS
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
5.2.
Determine Compliance of City-owned Property with Comprehensive Plan
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Staff report by Michele McPherson. The Planning Commission is requested to
review the possible sale of city-owned property (Lot 2, Block 1, Fox Haven
Commercial) for compliance with the Comprehensive Plan. The property is
currently zoned C4, Neighborhood Commercial, with an underlying land use of
CC, Community Commercial. If the rezoning is approved, the land use
designation will also need to be changed to HB, Highway Business.
Chair Cote stated that he felt the land use should have been considered before
the rezoning. Peter Beck, City Attorney, explained that either can be considered
first.
Commissioner Kuester asked if a medical clinic was permitted in the C4 zoning.
Ms. McPherson indicated that medical clinics are not listed as either a permitted
or conditional use. Commissioner Kuester felt that the use should be included in
C4 and she would support an ordinance amendment to that effect. The
Commissioners concurred with Commissioner Kuester.
COMMISSIONER KUESTER MOVED TO DETERMINE THAT THE SALE OF LOT 2, BLOCK 1,
FOX HAVEN COMMERCIAL, IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 4-1. Chair Cote opposed.
5.3. Reauest by Timco for Rezoninq (Fox Haven Commercial) from C4 to C3, Public
Hearinq Case No. IC 99-8
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staff report by Michele McPherson. Tom McKee, representing Allina, requests that
4.5 acres be rezoned from C4, Neighborhood Commercial to C3, Highway
Commercial to allow construction of a medical clinic. Ms. McPherson reminded
the Commission that if the zone change is approved, a land use change will also
be necessary. Ms. McPherson explained the purpose of the C3 zoning, noting
that many other parcels along Highway 169 and Highway 10 are zoned C3. She
stated that a medical clinic would be consistent with the types of uses found in
these areas. Ms. McPherson stated that traffic generated by the clinic would be
similar to C3 uses. Staff recommended approval of the rezoning based on the
two findings listed in the staff report.
Chair Cote opened the public hearing.
Linda Olson, neighborhood resident, stated that she supported the location of a
clinic on the site, not a liquor store.
Eleanor Todahl, resident at Guardian Angels, expressed her support for the
rezoning in order to allow Allina to build a health care clinic on the site, since
Allina utilizes Mercy Hospital in Coon Rapids. She explained that it is very difficult
to get appointments at Mork Clinic which also uses Mercy, and the Fairview Clinic
is associated with Fairview Northland Clinic in Princeton.
Mark Davis, representing Timco, explained that Allina was very interested in Elk
River and tried to locate on Highway 169 but was not successful.
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There being no comments from the public, Chair Cote closed the public hearing.
Chair Cote stated that he felt it would be more appropriate to add medical
clinics as a conditional use in the C4, rather than rezone the property to C3 an
open the door to the possibility of less desirable permitted C3 uses on that
particular site.
Commissioner Kuester felt the C4 zoning was much more compatible with the
surrounding properties.
Commissioner Chambers asked why the rezoning to C3 zoning was proposed.
Ms. McPherson indicated that the C3 zoning was consistent with other properties
with highway frontage such as Highway 169 and East Highway 10.
Tom Hartman, owner of the two adjoining lots, asked that the Planning
Commission recommend approval of the zone change, unless there was some
way to quickly process an ordinance amendment to allow clinics in the C4 zone.
Mark Davis stated that Timco proceeded with the zone change upon the city's
recommendation. He explained that Allina will not be willing to wait for an
ordinance amendment to be processed since they are already behind schedule,
and Allina will probably just go away.
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COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE ZONE
CHANGE REQUEST BY TIM CO, PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. ZC 99-8, BASED ON THE
FOLLOWING FINDINGS:
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THAT THE REZONING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN AND ZONING ORDINANCE;
2. THAT THE REZONING MAY CREATE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO ADJACENT USES;
AND, FURTHER RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REQUEST A TEXT
AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE MEDICAL CLINICS AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE C4,
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
COMMISSIONER KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
5A.A. Development Standards
Scott Harlicker stated that the development standards which have been
proposed for Elk River Crossing would apply to all buildings within the
development.
COMMISSIONER KUESTER MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
INCLUDE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR ELK RIVER CROSSING IN
THE PUD AGREEMENT, NOTING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL RELY ON
THESE STANDARDS IN THEIR REVIEW OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR THIS
PROJECT. CHAIR COTE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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Reauest by Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. for Conditional Use Permit, Public Hearina Case
No. CU 99-32
5A.B.
Commissioner Chambers expressed dissatisfaction with the building elevations
submitted for the project. He stated that it appears the design standards for Elk
River Crossing which the Planning Commission has been working on for the past
four months have been ignored.
Staff report by Scott Harlicker. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. has requested a conditional
use permit for a 143,000 square foot retail store with a garden center and
automotive repair, to be located in the southeast corner of Highway 169 and
Main Street (Lot 2, Block 2, Elk River Crossing). Wal-Mart's plans also include
17,500 feet of outdoor storage and display area. Mr. Harlicker noted that final
plat for Elk River Crossing will be considered at the October 18th City Council
meeting, along with this conditional use permit request.
Mr. Harlicker discussed issues associated with the site plan including parking,
access, outdoor storage and display, landscaping, and signage, as outlined in
the staff report dated September 28, 1999.
Mr. Harlicker reviewed the elevations proposed for the Wal-Mart store and related
changes proposed by staff. He noted that Wal-Mart has indicated they are
willing to incorporate some of the recommendations. Mr. Harlicker reviewed the
conditions proposed by staff, if the Planning Commission wished to approve the
conditional use permit at this time.
Chair Cote opened the public hearing.
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Greg Frank of McCombs, Frank Roos, engineer for the project, responded to
staff's recommendations as follows:
. Condition # 1 - No issue with this condition.
. Condition #2 - No issue.
. Condition #3 - All issues can be addressed.
. Condition #4 -
a. Building will be light tan with dark tan accents
b. No brick - North, east and west side of building will be split faced
block.
c. No "knee high" wall proposed, columns of split faced painted block,
Black aluminum fence down to ground.
d. 4 inch off-sets proposed; also cornices and parapet.
e. Split faced block on rear and front of building only.
f. Some modification to the canopy recommendation is proposed.
. Condition #5 - Applicant states experience has shown a higher potential
for accidents when plantings are placed in the front of buildings. Some
plantings could be provided in wider area in front.
. Condition #6 - Dumpster and trash compactor will be enclosed as noted
by staff.
. Condition #'s 7 and 8 - A full sign package will be submitted for approval.
. Condition # 9 - No issue.
. Condition # 10- Wal-Mart would like this condition removed.
. Condition #'s 11 and 12 - Concur with staff's recommendation.
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Mr. Frank stated that Wal-Mart is willing to change the color scheme to tan earth
tones, even though the gray colors are preferred in the South where Wal-Mart
originated. He explained that the black aluminum fence for the garden center
will look like wrought iron.
Chair Cote asked if the signs "We Sell for Less" and "Satisfaction Guaranteed" will
be left off the building. Mr. Frank stated that Wal-Mart did not discuss this issue.
Commissioner Chambers was concerned that the painted block would have a
shorter life expectancy. Mr. Frank indicated that integrally colored blocks would
be acceptable. Commissioner Chambers felt that a 4" recess in the building
face would not be noticeable any farther than 25' - 30' from the building.
Commissioner Chambers asked how large the outdoor storage area would be.
Ms. McPherson stated that they would be allowed five percent of the square
footage of the store, which would be approximately 7,000 square feet. Mr. Frank
noted that the garden center will be wrapped around to break up the front of
the building length.
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Chair Cote asked if the developer had any input on the design standards. Mr.
Frank stated that Mr. Gleekel has seen the standards but is not aware of Wal-
Mart's response. He added that Mr. Gleekel would have been present if he had
known the design standards were to be an agenda item. Commissioner
Chambers stated that the developer was made aware how important the
development standards are. Commissioner Chambers stated he is concerned
that Wal-Mart will not follow through in incorporating the design standards in their
plans and would like to see the changes before making a recommendation to
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the City Council. Mr. Frank stated that he has been authorized by Wal-Mart to
make the changes which he reviewed with the Commission.
Commissioner Kuester asked if it would be possible to continue the request to the
Planning Commission workshop on October 12th. Ms. McPherson stated that it
would be possible to continue the item to the 12th and still move it on to the
Council on October 18th.
Mr. Bernie Hess, 1602 Thomas Street, Minneapolis, representing the Livable Wage
Task Force, stated that for every two jobs Wal-Mart creates, three are lost.
He felt the city should study further the impact Wal-Mart will have. Mr. Hess
cautioned that the city should utilize businesses which turn over dollars locallh. He
urged the city to delay action on Wal-Mart's request until a job loss study and tax
base survey are completed.
Jennifer Swanson, stated that she was representing retail grocery interests. She
asked if the grocery store expansion is still proposed by Wal-Mart. Mr. Frank
stated that he did not know the future of an expansion for Wal-Mart but he did
not believe it would be for grocery retail. Ms. Swanson expressed her concern
that Wal-Mart pays substandard wages, while other grocery retailers pay livable
wages.
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John Christian, representing Ron's Foods, asked if a traffic survey has been done
for the Main Street/Highway 169 area. Terry Maurer, City Engineer, stated that a
traffic study was done for the entire project area. Mr. Christian asked if
consideration has been given to the impact the development will have on
schools and law enforcement. He asked if there are any plans to close the Main
Street entrance to Ron's Foods. Terry Maurer stated that the long-range plan is to
close the entrance. Mr. Christian stated that if the entrance is closed, Mr. Dargis
will be forced to close Ron's Foods. He stated he did not feel it was fair to put a
store out of business that has been in the community for 20 years.
Kathy Swanberg, Becker, MN, expressed her dissatisfaction with Wal-Mart stores,
stating that she did not feel they took care of their property. She felt their garden
centers became eye sores and should be fenced and hidden by arborvitae
plantings.
Robert Hall, resident on County Road No. 21, expressed his objection to the
condition proposed that would not allow overnight parking of RV's in the Wal-
Mart parking lot. He stated that many RV travelers take advantage of these
types of lots when they need to pull over and sleep for a while.
The Commissioners discussed whether to take action at this time or continue the
item. Ms. McPherson noted that closing on the property with Wal-Mart is
scheduled for October 28th and that the "60 day" time line for the city to act on
an application must be considered.
Darcy Winter, representing the applicant, indicated that their concern is that the
item go to the October 18th City Council meeting, and that the time line could be
extended at that point.
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There being no comments from the public, Chair Cote closed the public hearing.
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COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO CONTINUE THE REQUEST BY WAL-MART
STORES, INC., PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. CU 99-32, TO THE OCTOBER 12, 1999,
PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING. IF A QUORUM OF THE
COMMISSIONERS IS NOT PRESENT AT THE OCTOBER 12TH MEETING, THE REQUEST WILL
BE FORWARDED TO THE OCTOBER 18,1999, CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH A
RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTS THAT IF
THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING IS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, THAT THE COUNCIL
REFER THE REQUEST BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FURTHER REVIEW AT
THEIR OCTOBER 26, 1999, PLANNING COMMISSION METING. COMMISSIONER
KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
5.5.
Reauest bv City of Elk River for Ordinance Amendment to Allow Clustered
Subdivisions in the R1 a and A 1 Zonina Districts, Public Hearina Case No. OA 98-3
Staff report by Scott Harlicker. The City of Elk River Requests that the Planning
Commission review the proposed ordinance amendment to create an Open
Space Preservation Development Ordinance. Mr. Harlicker reviewed changes
which have been made in the ordinance since Planning Commission review in
March, 1999. Staff recommended approval of the ordinance with the changes
as presented in the staff report dated September 28, 1999. Mr. Harlicker noted
that the Commission may wish to further discuss the following issues:
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1. Open Space development as a permitted use
2. Park dedication
3. Density calculation based on the underlying zoning
The Commissioners and staff discussed individual versus clustered septic systems.
They also discussed ownership of open space by homeowners' associations.
Commissioner Kuester asked who would have the liability if the parks and trails
were open to the public, but are owned by the homeowner's association. Ms.
McPherson stated that the homeowner's association would carry liability
insurance.
Commissioner Kuester expressed her concern that a homeowners' association
may be too restrictive in allowing the public to use trails. Peter Beck, City
Attorney, stated that in that case, the city would not approve an agreement for
use of the trails and the developer would not receive the density bonus.
Commissioner Kuester stated that she felt all trails to be used by the public should
be either dedicated or covered by an easement.
Chair Cote opened the public hearing.
Norman Lemon, 11216 Brook Road, expressed his concern that a plat was
approved at the previous Planning Commission meeting which allowed the
developer to subdivide the property into 1 acre lots with septic systems. He
stated that he felt 2-1/2 acres is necessary for locating a septic system so that if it
fails, an alternate site is available.
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Dave Anderson, Park and Recreation Commissioner, commended the Planning
Commission for their work on the open space ordinance. He supported having
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options for ownership of open space such as homeowner's associations,
conservation easements, and city park land. He cautioned that the city needs to
be careful when recommending conservation easements because of the strict
requirements. Commissioner Dave Anderson stated that he felt the city will likely
see some creative and well-done developments under the open space
subdivision ordinance.
Robert Hall, resident on County Road 21, stated his opinion that homeowners
associations do not work and that for every 1 that works, there are 10 that fail.
Richard Gruys, 22347 Monroe Street, stated that he owns 240 acres. He expressed
his opposition to the 10 acre minimum lot size. Mr. Gruys stated that he is fearful
of what the city may decide to do next. Mr. Gruys stated that he was told by the
City of Elk River that he could not sell his property without notifying them because
they were interested in the property for a wildlife preserve-type park. He stated
that his attorney advised to obtain a letter from the City stating their intent and
contacted Pat Klaers, City Administrator. To date, he has not received such a
letter.
Don Lemon, 11369 Brook Road, stated he opposed the 10 acre minimum lot size
and favored a 2-1/2 acre minimum. He did not feel it was fair to the property
owners who planned to subdivide their property for their retirement income.
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Marly Glines, 1018 Main Street, described his cluster development in Baldwin
Township, which is the first in Sherburne County, also one in Cass County on Leech
Lake. He explained the advantages of the community sewage treatment. Mr.
Glines also reviewed the cluster development he will be presenting to the
Planning Commission in October. He noted that 60% of the property will be set
aside as open space as city park land and community gardens.
Kermit Bode, 10175 Brook Road, asked what is the standard park land dedication.
Ms. McPherson stated that the standard park dedication is ten percent of the
land or fees equal to the market value of ten percent of the land. Scott Harlicker
explained that the Park and Recreation Commission makes a recommendation
for either land or cash, based on the needs identified in the Master Park Plan.
There being no further comments from the public, Chair Cote closed the public
hearing.
Commissioner Kuester suggested some type of park dedication fees be required
for clustered developments according to base density.
Commissioner Schuster stated he supported the community septic systems. He
expressed his concern that excessive amounts of property would be under the
control of the Minnesota Land Trust through conservation easements.
Commissioner Thompson stated she supported conservation easements and
community septic system in clustered subdivisions.
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Commissioner Kuester stated that she felt homeowners' associations can work
very well, and sometimes it will be appropriate for homeowners' associations to
manage the open space.
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COMMISSIONER COTE MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE OPEN SPACE
PRESERVATION DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED BY STAFF, PUBLIC
HEARING CASE NO. OA 98-3. COMMISSIONER KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
6.1.
Uodate on 9120/00 City Council Meetina
Commissioner Thompson provided an update on planning issues reviewed at the
September 20, 1999, City Council meeting.
6.2. Letter from Doran Cote
A letter of resignation from Doran Cote was acknowledged. Members of the
Commission expressed their regrets in his leaving and thanked him for his service.
6.3. National AP A Conference
Ms. McPherson noted that the National Planning Conference will be held in New
York City, April, 2000. Funds have been allocated in the 2000 budget for two
Commissioners to attend the conference.
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Adiournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at 11 :20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Debbie Huebner
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Recording Secretary