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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, MARCH 26,2002
Members Present:
Chair Pederson, Commissioners Anderson, Baker, Franz, Jenson, Mesich
and Ropp
Members Absent:
None
Staff Present:
Michele McPherson, Director of Planning; Scott Harlicker, Senior
Planner; Chris Leeseberg, Planner; Terry Maurer, City Engineer; Peter Beck,
City Attorney; Debbie Huebner, Recording Secretary
1. Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission
was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Chair Pederson.
2.
Consider 3/26/02 Planning Commission Agenda
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COMMISSIONER FRANZ MOVED TO APPROVE THE MARCH 26, 2002
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. COMMISSIONER BAKER SECONDED
THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
3.
Consider Consent Agenda
COMMISSIONER MESICH MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA
AS FOLLOWS:
3.1. REQUEST BY NORTH MEMORIAL HEALTH CARE FOR AMENDMENT TO A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SIGNAGE, PUBLIC HEARING - CASE
NO. CU 02-07- POSTPONED TO 4/23/02 MEETING.
3.2. REQUEST BY JOHN ALFORDS FOR REZONING FROM R1C TO R4, PUBLIC
HEARING - CASE NO. ZC 02-03 - POSTPONED TO 4/23/02 MEETING.
3.3. REQUEST BY THE CITY OF ELK RIVER FOR ORDINANCE
AMENDMENT RELATING TO MASSAGE THERAPY, PUBLIC
HEARING - CASE NO. OA 02-01 - POSTPONED TO 4/9/02 MEETING.
COMMISSIONER FRANZ SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
4.
Consider 2/26/02 Planning Commission Minutes and 3/12/02 Meeting Notes
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COMMISSIONER MESICH MOVED TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 26,2002
MINUTES AND THE MARCH 12,2002 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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NOTES. COMMISSIONER FRANZ SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
5.
Planning Commission Representative to Attend April City Council Meeting
Chair Pederson will attend the Apri115, 2002 City Council meeting.
6.1. Request by Mike & Monica Johnson for Conditional Use Permit for Private Kennel. Public
Hearing - Case No. CU 02-06
Staff report by Planner Chris Leeseberg. Mike and Monica Johnson request a conditional
use permit for a private kennel at 13926 200th Avenue NW. Mr. Leeseberg explained that
the J ohnsons have two dogs which are kept indoors and two dogs that are kept outdoors.
Commissioner Franz asked if the private kennel ordinance allows breeding but not selling,
since it states "no on-site commercial activities, such as breeding, boarding or selling."
Commissioner Baker asked if it would be considered a "commercial use" if breeding
occurred and the applicants put an ad in the paper to sell the puppies. Mr. Beck felt that
technically, this would be considered "commercial".
Discussion followed regarding placing a restriction on the license. Commissioner Mesich
felt it would be unfair to restrict the J ohnsons from raising and selling a litter of puppies,
since this is a right enjoyed by other citizens in the City. He noted that the ordinance states
that residents are allowed up to 3 dogs over the age of six months, and puppies could be
sold before they reached six months.
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Chair Pederson opened the public hearing.
Michael Johnson, applicant, explained that they would not be breeding any of the dogs
since the two outdoor dogs are neutered males, and the two indoor dogs are spayed females.
Chair Pederson asked if the dogs were large dogs and if so, could they jump the fence? Mr.
Johnson stated that they are large dogs and that one of them has jumped the fence. He
stated that he will be increasing the 4 foot high fence to 5 feet. He noted that his neighbors
also have dogs and that his closest neighbor has 5 huskies.
Commissioner Baker asked how large Mr. Johnson's lot is. Mr. Johnson stated that he has
approximately 2 3,4 acres. Commissioner Baker asked if barking was an issue. Mr. Johnson
stated that the dogs usually only bark when deer come close by.
Commissioner Mesich suggested that Condition #2 be modified to include 4 dogs" over the
age of six months" .
There being no further public comment, Chair Pederson closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER FRANZ MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY MIKE AND MONICA JOHNSON FOR A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE KENNEL, CASE NO. CU 02-06, WITH THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
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1. THAT THERE BE NO ON-SITE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS
BREEDING, BOARDING OR SELLING.
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2. THAT THE PRIVATE KENNEL BE LIMITED TO 4 DOGS OVER THE AGE
OF 6 MONTHS. ADDITIONAL DOGS WILL REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT
TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
3. THAT THE ANIMAL WASTE BE DISPOSED OF PROPERLY.
4. THAT THE APPLICANT RECEIVES A PRIVATE KENNEL LICENSE FROM
THE CITY COUNCIL.
COMMISSIONER MESICH SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
6.2. Request by Cub Foods/Universal Sign. Inc. for Amendment to the Elk Park Center PUD
Commissioner Anderson excused himself from discussion of this issue due to a conflict of
interest.
Staff report by Scott Harlicker. Cub Foods requests an amendment to the Elk Park Center
PUD Agreement to allow a second 5 foot x 11.9 foot "Cub" sign at 19216 Freeport Street.
Mr. Harlicker stated that staff feels that the second sign is excessive and reviewed the
findings for denial.
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Commissioner Baker asked if the ordinance does not allow the additional signage. Mr.
Harlicker explained that signage for this site is regulated by the PUD agreement which does
not permit the additional signage, in this case. Mr. Beck, City Attorney, stated that additional
signage has been allowed in PUD outlots in the past.
Chair Pederson opened the public hearing.
Rich Walecho, representing the applicant, explained that the pharmacy drive-up sign was
not cited in the original expansion plans, but they have since been adding this feature to
many of their stores. He stated that they realized "after the fact" that additional signage
would be required.
There being no further public comment, Chair Pederson closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Baker stated that he felt the proposed "Cub" signage would seem to fit in the
space above the word "pharmacy". However, he stated, other stores such as Target do not
identify their pharmacy as "Target" pharmacy on the side of their building. Commissioner
Baker asked if staff felt the request would have been approved, if Cub had asked for the
signage when the expansion request was originally approved. Mr. Harlicker stated that in his
opinion, the signage is redundant.
Commissioner Franz stated that he concurred with staff's recommendation for denial, stated
that Cub already has more signage than would be allowed if the property were zoned
Highway Commercial.
Chair Pederson stated he also supported staff's recommendation and he would not have
supported the additional signage when the expansion request was originally approved.
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COMMISSIONER FRANZ MOVED TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE
REQUEST BY CUB FOODS FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE ELK PARK
CENTER PUD AGREEMENT TO ALLOW A SECOND "CUB" SIGN, CASE NO.
CU 02-05, BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS:
1. THE EXISTING SIGNAGE IS SUFFICIENT TO IDENTIFY THE STORE
AS CUB FOODS.
2. THE EXISTING SIGNAGE IS SUFFICIENT TO IDENTIFY THE
PHARMACY AND THE PHARMACY ENTRANCE.
COMMISSIONER MESICH SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 5-1. Commissioner Baker opposed.
6.3. Request by Checker Auto Parts/Universal Sign. Inc. for Amendment to a Conditional Use
Permit for Signage. Public Hearing - Case No. CU 02-10
Staff report by Scott Harlicker. Checker Auto Parts, 508 Freeport Avenue, requests a
conditional use permit allow a second wall sign and to exceed 128 square feet of total sign
area. Mr. Harlicker noted that the proposed 4' x 30' (120 sq. ft.) sign would face Highway
169. Staff is in agreement that the second sign is needed, however, a 3' x 20' foot sign (60
square feet) would be a reasonable size.
Commissioner Anderson asked if the other businesses in this area received the same
approval. Mr. Harlicker explained the area was developed in phases and that there are
different agreements for the various businesses.
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Commissioner Ropp questioned if the trees along Highway 169 created a visibility issue. Mr.
Harlicker stated that there is a break in the trees where the proposed sign would be visible
from the south.
Chair Pederson opened the public hearing.
Steve Macohon, District Manager of Checker Auto, stated that the free-standing sign in
the front of the building is not required and they would prefer to have the additional signage
facing Highway 169. Mr. Macohon noted that the Marcus theater's signage is larger than
what they are proposing.
Commissioner Mesich asked if the applicant was willing to accept staff's recommendation of
a 60 square foot sign. Mr. Macohon stated that they would be willing to accept the reduced
slgnage.
Commissioner Franz asked if the front signage could be reduced. Mr. Macohon stated that
there would be no value in doing so.
Commissioner Baker stated he did not have a problem with the request.
There being no further public comment, Chair Pederson closed the public hearing.
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COMMISSIONER MESICH MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY CHECKER AUTO PARTS FORA CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
TO ALLOW A SECOND WALL SIGN AND TO EXCEED 128 SQUARE FEET OF
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TOTAL SIGN AREA, CASE NO. CU 02-10, WITH THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS:
1. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE WALL SIGN NOT EXCEED 60 SQUARE
FEET.
COMMISSIONER FRANZ SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
6.4. Request by Phoenix Enterprises for Conditional Use Permit - Addition to Northbound
Crossing Building and Billiard Facility Use. Public Hearing - Case No. CU 02-08
Staff report by Michele McPherson. Phoenix Enterprises and Bruce Smith request a 17,547
square foot addition to the existing 26,415 square foot Northbound Crossing building and to
allow a billiard hall. Goodwill and Sherwin Williams are located in the current building. Ms.
McPherson reviewed the issues associated with the addition, including parking and building
exterior materials.
Ms. McPherson explained that Bruce Smith proposes to lease 7,500 square feet of the
building for a billiard hall. Ms. McPherson discussed details of the proposal including
number of tables, food service, non-smoking policy, and curfew requirements for juveniles.
The hours of operation will be 11:00 a.m. -1:00 a.m. - Monday through Thursday; 11:00
a.m. - 3:00 a.m. Fridays and Saturdays; and 12 noon to 12 midnight on Sunday. Staff
recommends approval of the requests with the conditions outlined in the staff report.
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Chair Pederson asked if there was adequate lighting. Ms. McPherson stated that lighting will
be addressed when the building permit application is submitted. Chair Pederson asked if any
signage has been proposed. Ms. McPherson noted that a sign package has not been
submitted.
Commissioner Franz asked if screening of the dumpster would be addressed. Ms.
McPherson stated that this issue is addressed in the original planned unit development
(PUD) agreement.
Chair Pederson opened the public hearing.
Bruce Smith, 19360 Dodge Street, stated that he would be operating the billiard hall. He
eXplained that he is an avid pool player and his background is accounting and finance. He
stated that he has no problem with the Police Chief's recommendations. Mr. Smith
explained that he is not sure he will be able to keep the entire facility non-smoking for
financial reasons. He stated they have discussed using a non-suspended ceiling and air
exchangers if they decide to allow smoking. Mr. Smith stated that there are a number of
leagues in the area who would utilize the facility.
Commissioner Baker asked how the smoking area would be designated. Mr. Smith
explained that they would limit smoking to a few isolated tables. Commissioner Baker asked
if the building would b sprinklered. Mr. Smith stated that it would be sprinklered according
to building code.
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Commissioner Mesich asked if background checks would be done for employees. Mr. Smith
stated that the employees would be all family members to start, and background checks
would be done for outside employees.
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Commissioner Franz asked why Mr. Smith felt the 3:00 a.m. closing was necessary on Friday
and Saturday nights. Mr. Smith stated that this facility will be the only one if its type within
18 miles. He stated that hours of operation of other billiard halls in large population areas
average 10:00 a.m. - 4 a.m. or 6:00 a.m. and that Fridays and Saturday are their busiest days
of the week.
Discussion following regarding staffing of the billiard hall. Some of the Commissioners
expressed concern that staffing needs to be adequate in order to check identification of
juveniles and to provide surveillance inside and outside of the facility. Mr. Smith noted that
the curfew time will be announced and underage smoking by teens will not be allowed.
Commissioner Mesich asked if other facilities employed a police officer or security person.
Mr. Smith stated that he has not heard of this being done any where in this state.
Commissioner Baker stated that he is a pool player and that he has not seen a police officer
in any of the billiard halls he has visited. He did not feel it was realistic for a billiard hall to
be maintained as non-smoking. Commissioner Baker stated that he felt it would be difficult
to require the employees to police the grounds.
Commissioner Mesich felt that including this condition would enforceable if drinking and
loitering were to become an ongoing problem.
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Ms. McPherson stated that the employees could be asked to walk through the areas every
hour or every-other-hour and if issues arose, the police would be contacted. She felt that by
policing the parking lot, undesirable activities would be eliminated.
Commissioner Baker asked City Attorney Peter Beck if he felt the condition would be
enforceable. Mr. Beck stated that he felt that it would be enforceable but additional
conditions could be included if the Commission they were necessary.
Commissioner Pederson was concerned that the lighting on the rear of the building may
impact the adjacent neighbors, if the facility were open till 3:00 a.m. Commissioner Franz
explained that there is a large privacy wall along the property line from Coborns to Menards
so that the lighting should not affect the residential homes.
Commissioner Ropp stated that he has some concern that patrons would come from the
bars when they closed and then come to play pool. He questioned whether or not this
would be introducing a risk factor to the residential neighborhood. Commissioner Mesich
stated that it may be a good idea for bar patrons to go play pool for a while before going
home and that he felt the late hours of operation were necessary for the business to survive.
Chair Pederson, Commissioner Baker, and Commissioner Anderson concurred that they did
not have a problem with the hours of operation. Commissioner Jenson stated he did have
some concern that the residential area may be impacted.
Discussion followed regarding the City's ability to review the conditional use permit. Mr.
Beck stated that he felt it would be difficult to go back and change the hours of operation,
once they were established in the conditional use permit. Ms. McPherson noted that a
billiard license will be reviewed annually by the City.
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There being no further public comment, Chair Pederson closed the public hearing.
It was the consensus of the Commission to act on the conditional use permits for the
building and for the billiard hall separately. Mr. Beck noted that if there were issues of
noncompliance with the billiard hall, the conditional use could be revoked.
COMMISSIONER MESICH MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY PHOENIX ENTERPRISES FOR A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW EXPANSION OF THE NORTHBOUND CROSSING
BUILDING, CASE NO. CU 02-08, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:
1. THE BUILDING ADDITION SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE
BUILDING CODES.
2. SECURITY LIGHTING BE PROVIDED ON THE BACK OF THE
BUILDING.
COMMISSIONER PEDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
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COMMISSIONER MESICH MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY PHOENIX ENTERPRISES AND BRUCE SMITH FOR A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A BILLIARD HALL, CASE NO. CU 02-08,
WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THE EMPLOYEES SHALL POST IN PLAIN SIGHT AND STRICTLY
ENFORCE THE CITY OF ELK RIVER'S CURFEW REQUIREMENTS.
2. THE EMPLOYEES SHALL POLICE THE GROUNDS AND NOTIFY THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS INSIDE OR
OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
3. WINDOWS OF THE BILLIARD HALL SHALL REMAIN UNCOVERED
AND UNOBSTRUCTED TO ALLOW VISIBILITY.
4. NO SALES OF CIGARETTES OR USE OF CIGARETTES BY MINORS ON
THE PREMISES.
5. THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN APPROVAL OF A BILLIARD HALL
LICENSE FROM THE CITY OF ELK RIVER.
CHAIR PEDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED
7-0.
6.5.
Request by City of Elk River for Conditional Use Permit for Public Safety Facility and
Expansion of Existing City Hall. Public Hearing - Case No. CU 01-09
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Staff report by Michele McPherson. Ms. McPherson reviewed the City of Elk River's
proposal to expand the existing City Hall and the construction of a new public safety facility.
A 7,276 square foot addition to the northwest side of the existing City Hall will
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accommodate the Elk River Municipal Utilities offices, and a 1,749 square foot expansion at
the southwest comer of the building will house the City Attorney's offices, as well as a small
addition for an expanded cable television area.
Ms. McPherson then described the proposed 43,725 square foot public safety facility which
will include Police, Fire, and the Emergency Operations Center. A basement will house the
EOC, the firing range, and evidence room. A second story will be constructed as shell space
for future expansion of the Police Department. An impound lot will be located north of the
proposed Police Station which will be enclosed by a six foot high concrete rock-face block
wall. The Fire Station will have room for up to six fire vehicles.
Site impacts (including the closing of Orono Road), parking requirements, and landscaping
were reviewed by Ms. McPherson. Staff recommends approval of the request with the
conditions listed in the staff report, and with an additional condition that signage comply
with the ordinance requirements for institutional uses in the R1c zoning district.
Chair Pederson asked if the median has been moved. Ms. McPherson explained that the
median was relocated to allow "cleaner" traffic movement. Chair Pederson asked if there
would be any type of physical connection between the City Hall and Public Safety Facility.
Ms. McPherson stated no, that the only connection would be outdoors across the parking
area via sidewalks.
Commissioner Anderson asked if the area north of the impound lot would be landscaped.
Ms. McPherson explained that they would be relocating existing trees and this area would be
looked at as part of the overall Orono Park Master Plan.
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Commissioner Baker suggested that there should be a trail connection from the City Hall
property to the trail along Lake Orono.
Commissioner Baker asked how motorists would get to City Hall, if Orono Road is closed.
Ms. McPherson explained how traffic could reach City Hall by either Joplin Street, Main
Street, or County Road 30.
Commissioner Mesich asked if closing Orono Road would affect the Fire Department.
Bruce West, Fire Chief, stated that there would be no impact. Commissioner Mesich asked if
the curve in Orono Parkway would be difficult to maneuver. Chief West stated that he felt
there is good visibility at this point and he did not see a problem. He noted that they will
not be exiting at excessive speed and that they will enter the other drive way when returning.
Chair Pederson opened the public hearing.
Dan Kolles, 12974 Orono Road, stated that he has some of the same concerns that he had
when the City Hall was first built; location of the facility in a residential area, traffic flow and
speed of police vehicles on Orono Road. He stated it was his understanding that most of
the City Hall and Police Station traffic would use Highway 10 and would not be driving east
on Orono. He stated that he felt the raised medians were a safety issue and he supported
lowering of the medians. He expressed concern regarding the speed of police and fire
vehicles which would be leaving the public safety facility. He asked if there was a way to
deter traffic to enter and leave on Orono Parkway toward Joplin.
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Commissioner Baker asked Mr. Kolles if he felt the police vehicles were operated in a
reckless manner when they left the Police Station for a call. Mr. Kolles stated no.
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Isabella Smith, 18263 Concord Street, suggested that there should be an access to the
north for the Fire Department to get to Orono Road. She asked if there would be any
changes to the trail along Lake Orono to the park. Ms. McPherson stated no. Ms. Smith
asked what type of fencing would be used for the impound lot to screen it from the park
area.
Dan Pelliner, representing Tushi Montgomery, architects for the project, stated that
due to budget constraints, the rock-face block may not be used, and instead, some other type
of opaque metal fencing will be used so cars in the lot will not be visible.
Commissioner Baker asked if a vegetative cover could be used on the fencing. Mr. Pelliner
stated that it will be considered.
Bob Dilly, 12943 Orono Parkway, stated that he has lived on Lake Orono since 1965. He
stated that when the City Hall and Police Station was first constructed, they had to ask the
City to turn down the lighting because it was too bright. He stated that he also remembered
being told that Orono Road going east would only be used occasionally by police vehicles.
He asked that the City ensure that the lighting was subdued. Mr. Dillon also expressed
concern for speeding vehicles trying to get to the fire station for a call.
Ms. Smith asked if police officers were required to use Highway 10 and not Orono Road.
Ms. McPherson explained that the officers generally try to use Highway 10 but there is no
written policy.
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Commissioner Mesich asked if this facility would replace the downtown fire station. Fire
Chief Bruce West stated that the downtown station would remain the primary station and
this facility would be a secondary station. He stated that safety is the fire fighters' number
one concern when traveling through residential neighborhoods. Chief West noted that they
will generally use Highway 10 by way of Joplin Street, unless Orono Parkway is the shortest
route to a fire, such as Main Street or the downtown area.
Chair Pederson asked if certain fire fighters will be assigned to this station. Chief West
stated that firefighters must live within a 3-mile radius of the station. They currently have 35
fighters and anticipate adding 5 more. He noted that the Public Safety station will have
fewer fire fighters than the downtown station.
Chair Pederson asked if fire fighters are allowed to speed to get to the station. Chief West
stated that all fire fighters must abide by the laws. Commissioner Pederson asked if the
department plans to add an ambulance. Chief West stated that if a second ambulance is
added, it would be housed at the downtown Jackson site, since it is more centrally located.
Commissioner Mesich ask if this station would service Big Lake. Chief West explained that
the City services a small portion of Big Lake Township located by the Pinewood Golf
Course, the 145th Avenue area, just this side of County Road 15. Commissioner Mesich
asked if there might be a better location for a second station than the City Hall site. Chief
West explained that this site has been under consideration for some time and feels that the
location is ideal. He stated that 1 or 2 other stations in other areas of the City may be
required in the future, as the City grows.
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Commissioner Baker questioned why access for the Police and Fire Departments off Orono
Road to the north is not being considered. Ms. McPherson explained that the master plan
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for this area has been to close Orono Road in order to connect the green space of the
ballfield complex and Orono Park to create a larger park facility. Commissioner Anderson
concurred that he was aware that there have been plans to close Orono Road at this location
for some time. He stated that he is in favor of lowering the median and suggested some type
of warning signs with flashing lights to warn traffic of fire and police vehicles approaching.
Commissioner Mesich asked if additional employees are proposed for this facility. Ms.
McPherson explained that that the addition is designed for future growth and there will not
be employees added immediately. She noted that there will be approximately 10 Municipal
Utilities employees moving to the new addition. Commissioner Mesich felt that the speed
should be raised on Orono Parkway from 30 mph to 35-40 mph, since that is how fast
~otorists travel anyway. He felt that a study needs to be done in order to address the traffic
issue.
Dan Kolles, 12974 Orono Parkway, stated that the route from County Road 30 to Joplin to
as an access to the City Hall has not been discussed. Ms. McPherson stated that this option
will also be available.
Commissioner Mesich suggested the Orono Parkway be cul-de-saced at the northwest
corner of the City property, preventing traffic from using Orono Road to the east.
Chair Pederson stated that he was concerned Orono Road would be closed as part of this
project. He felt that the Orono Road-Joplin Street intersection may need to be signalized in
the future.
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Commissioner Franz stated he would like to know what route emergency vehicles would
use.
Chair Pederson stated that he likes the layout of the project but that he questioned the use of
metal as a roofing material, and that he would support some type of warning system or
signage for traffic encountering emergency vehicles.
Ms. McPherson stated that the existing roof will need to be removed in order to
accommodate the southwest addition. She explained that metal roofing material is being
used more often in residential areas. Mr. Pelliner explained that by the time the addition is
constructed, the life of the existing roof would be close to its end. He stated that the metal-
seam roof has a much longer life that the existing cedar shake roof.
Commissioner Baker felt that the roofing material should be compatible with the adjacent
residential neighborhood and that he would prefer a material that would appear less" cold"
than metal. He asked if the lighting could be mitigated so that it would not be obtrusive to
the residents. Mr. Pelliner stated that the present light fixtures have block-out shields which
will direct the lighting downward and that this issue will be taken into consideration in re-
structuring the lighting.
Chair Pederson expressed concern that there are no traffic counts available for them to
consider in regards to the residents' concerns on Orono Road. He asked if a traffic study
could be completed. Ms. McPherson stated that a traffic study would take time. She noted
that 1999 traffic counts are available and that she would retrieve them forthe Commission's
reView.
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Commissioner Mesich asked if Orono Road were left open, would fire trucks utilize Gary
Street. Chief West stated that Gary Street would not be used in any case, since it is not
signalized and is not considered a safe crossing.
Commissioner Baker asked if the Public Safety facility was part of the master plan. Ms.
McPherson eXplained that future expansion of the City Hall was planned when it was
originally proposed, as well as was some type of public! community center facility, and the
plans did include the closure of Orono Road.
Commissioner Baker stated that the plan did not include a public safety facility with
emergency vehicle traffic. Ms. McPherson stated that the police station would still be
located here.
Chair Pederson asked if the Public Safety building could be moved so that Orono Road
could remain open. Ms. McPherson stated that there is no other space to relocate the
building. Mr. Pelliner noted that the City owns property up to Highway 10 (Orono Park),
but that the City intended to minimize the impact on Orono Park as much as possible. He
stated that it has been the City's plan to connect the park with the softball field complex.
Mr. Pelliner stated that he felt there would be more safety issues in keeping Orono Road
open and having emergency vehicles using it, given the heavy use of the park and softball
fields.
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Ms. McPherson reviewed the 1999 State-certified traffic counts at this time which showed
850 average daily trips for Orono Parkway. She then reviewed original expansion plans
which included the closure of Orono Road. Ms. McPherson noted that the Master Park
Plan included expanding and connecting the green space between the softball fields and
Orono Park.
Commissioner Mesich asked if the City property near the Gary Street water tower was
considered for the Public Safety facility. Ms. McPherson stated yes, but that the intent is to
keep the buildings close together in one location.
Commissioner Baker stated that he felt the traffic counts were relatively lower than he would
have expected.
Commissioner Anderson stated that he was aware there have always been plans to expand,
but that a fire station was not planned. He felt there are access and safety issues that need to
be addressed.
Commissioner Baker felt that consideration should be given to moving the Public Safety
building closer to Joplin. He also supported some type of flashing warning lights.
Mr. Pelliner explained that the plans include 3 well-designed accesses to the site.
Commissioner Baker asked if the building could be moved to the west. Mr. Pelliner
explained that it would not work to move the building closer to the property line, since there
is the need to create a secure area for police and fire vehicles which is separate from the
general public.
Chair Pederson asked how many parking spaces will be available. Ms. McPherson stated
that there will be more than 180 parking spaces for general use.
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Commissioner Mesich asked what type of statistics the expansion was based on, regarding
growth.
Pat Klaers, City Administrator, eXplained that plans for the expansion and public safety
facility were based on a 3 ~ - 4 percent growth factor, as well financial considerations. He
stated that size of the public safety facility is proposed to be adequate for 20 years, and the
City Hall expansion for 10 years. An additional 5,000 - 10,000 square feet is projected to be
added to City Hall in 10 years.
Commissioner Mesich asked how much of the new space will be utilized when completed.
Mr. Klaers stated that approximately 50 percent of the space will be utilized. He noted that
this is similar to what was done when the City Hall was first constructed, and now is
completed taken up and space needs are being experienced. Mr. Klaers stated that the gun
range may not be completed at the time the building is constructed, if the money is not there
to do so.
Chair Pederson stated that he feels there is a need to look at traffic flow to and from the site.
Commissioner Franz stated that he is more comfortable with the new traffic pattern which
will be created by the closing of Orono Road.
Commissioner Baker felt that he felt the major issue is the impact of traffic on the residents.
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Mr. Klaers stated that Orono Parkway was always designed to be a collector street. He felt
that a community center would have generated more traffic than the public safety facility will
have. He stated that the Main Street/County Road 30 access to Joplin will be an option, but
that people on Main Street and those coming from the downtown will use Orono Parkway.
Mr. Klaers explained that most of the traffic to the site will be on the major corridors. He
noted that traffic was not overlooked in previous planning, but that it was not identified as a
concern.
There being no further public comment, Chair Pederson closed the public hearing.
Mr. Klaers stated that he felt there are some issues that still need to be addressed, but that
staff and the architect have done a good job. He stated that the main fire station will remain
at Jackson and that a secondary station has been discussed for quite some time. He felt that
the traffic counts are relatively small and that ultimately, the closure of Orono Road will
ultimately create better traffic flow.
Commissioner Baker stated that he did not feel a new traffic study would show a great deal
of change and that they have sufficient data to make a decision.
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COMMISSIONER BAKER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY THE CITY OF ELK RIVER FOR A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW EXPANSION TO THE EXISTING CITY HALL AND
CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, CASE NO. CU 02-
09, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THE BUILDING SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING
CODES.
2. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHALL BE REVISED TO COMPLY WITH STAFF
COMMENTS.
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3. SIGNAGE SHALL COMPLY WITH THE INSTITUTIONAL
REQUIREMENTS OF THE R1C ZONING DISTRICT.
4. PARKING SHALL MEET THE 212 SPACES REQUIREMENT.
5. SIGNAGE AND WARNING LIGHTS SHALL BE INSTALLED TO WARN
MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES
ENTERING ONTO ORONO PARKWAY.
6. A COMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL ROOFING MATERIAL SHALL BE USED
SUCH AS ASPHALT OR CEDAR.
Mr. Klaers noted that the roof and traffic issues will be discussed with staff and the architect
before the City Council meeting.
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
6.7. Request by City of Elk River for Ordinance Amendment; Sections 900 and 1008 Regarding
Building Escrows and Certificates of Survey Requirements. Public Hearing - Case No. OA
02-02
Staff report by Michele McPherson. The Planning Commission is asked to consider an
ordinance amendment to change the certificate of survey requirements for building permit
issuance and also to consider imposing residential and commercial/industrial escrows. Ms.
McPherson explained that more detailed information is required on certificates of survey to
insure proper drainage and reduce impacts to adjacent properties. Staff feels that requiring
this information at the time of building permit issuance will help avert problems later.
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Ms. McPherson explained that staff is also recommending that escrows include
improvements such as grading, detention ponds, blacktop and curbing, in addition to
landscaping. Ms. McPherson explained how the escrow requirement would be structured
for residential, commercial and industrial property.
Commissioner Franz stated that he felt local developers should see these changes prior to
the City Council meeting. Ms. McPherson stated that they would be informed.
Chair Pederson stated he supported the proposed amendments.
Chair Pederson opened the public hearing. There being no public comment, Chair Pederson
closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER BAKER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY THE CITY OF ELK RIVER FOR AN ORDINANCE
AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE CERTIFICATE OF SURVEY
REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE AND TO IMPOSE
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL ESCROWS, CASE NO. OA
02-02. COMMISSIONER MESICH SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 6-0-1. Commissioner Franz abstained.
7. Other Business
7.1. Update on 3/18/02 City Council Meeting
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Commissioner Franz provided an update on the March 18,2002 City Council
meeting.
7.2.
Consider Resolution of the Elk River Planning Commission Concerning the Elk
River Economic Development Authority's Development Proiect Proposals
Ms. McPherson reviewed the request by Lori Johnson, Finance Director, forthe
Planning Commission to consider a resolution to determine the consistency of the
proposed City Hall expansion and Public Safety facility with the City's
Comprehensive Plan.
COMMISSIONER BAKER MOVED APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 02-
01, A RESOLUTION OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
CONCERNING THE ELK RIVER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY'S DEVELOPMENT PROJECT PROPOSALS.
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
8. Adiournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER MESICH MOVED TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER BAKER SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at 10:51 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Debbie Huebner
Recording Secretary
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