03-08-2005 PC MIN
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WORKSHOP MEETING NOTES
ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, MARCH 8, 2005
Members Present:
Commissioners Anderson, Lemke, Offerman, Scott and Stevens and
Westgaard
Members Absent:
Chair Ropp
Staff Present:
Michele McPherson, Director of Planning; Scott Harlicker, Senior
Planner; Chris Leeseberg, Planner; Peter Beck, City Attorney
Conncil Liaison:
Conncil Member Motin
1. Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission
was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Vice Chair Anderson.
2.
Election of Chair and Vice Chair
The floor was opened for nominations for the position of Chair. Vice Chair Anderson
stated that he would like to volnnteer to be Chair. A question was raised regarding Chair
Ropp's preference. Director of Planning McPherson stated that in the message left in voice
mail indicating he would not be in attendance tonight he stated his support for
Commissioner Stevens as Chair.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STEVENS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
OFFERMAN TO ELECT COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AS CHAIR FOR 2005-
2006. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Chair Anderson opened nominations for the position of Vice Chair. Commissioner
Offerman asked if the position should be rotated; for example, the Vice Chair would then
become Chair, etc. Chair Anderson described his experience on the Parks and Recreation
Commission in regards to the chairmanship. Commissioner Offerman nominated
Commissioner Stevens to serve as Vice Chair for 2005-2006. The nomination was seconded
by Commissioner Scott. Having no other nominations, the nominations were closed.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OFFERMAN AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER SCOTT TO ELECT COMMISSIONER STEVENS AS VICE
CHAIR FOR 2005-2006. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
3.
Policies and Procedures
The Commission had no questions regarding the policies and procedures of the
Commission. Conncilmember Motin asked if the policies and procedures of the
Commission included a statement regarding advocacy of issues and the need to clearly define
the role between a citizen statement and a statement as a commissioner.
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Much discussion ensued regarding the example in question. Of specific concern to the
Council is commissioners using their position as commissioners to advocate a position
contrary- to City Council action. The Council encourages diverse opinions, however, the
diverse opinions should be represented as citizen opinions as opposed to opinions of a
commission, when appropriate.
4.
Review of Legal Constraints
City Attorney Peter Beck was present to review information regarding the legal constraints
within which the Planning Commission needs to work. Mr. Beck reviewed the constitutional
and statutory foundations from the Federal government and State of Minnesota. He
reviewed plats and zone changes.
Councilmember Motin asked if a new Council was bound by a preliminary plat that was
approved by a previous Council. Mr. Beck stated that as long as the final plat is consistent
with the approved preliminary plat, the new Council must approve the final plat.
Commissioner Offerman asked if a preliminary plat complied with the zoning district
requirements, what findings could be used to deny it. Mr. Beck stated that conditions could
be applied to address the issues and that no one is entided to maximize the number of lots
under the zoning requirements. Mr. Beck cautioned the Commissioners to note that citizen
input and opposition cannot be the sole basis of denial of a project.
Chair Anderson stated that public health and safety standards are a basis for findings of fact
for denial. Mr. Beck cautioned, however, that the Commission needs to state specific
standards versus broad general statements as part of the findings of fact.
More discussion occurred regarding the Commonweal Development project located at the
southwest comer of Main Street and Highway 169. Mr. Beck noted that complete denial of
access would constitute a taking under case law to date.
Councilmember Motin asked if down-zoning a property, say for instance, removing property
out of the urban service district and down-zoning it to Ria, large lot single family would
constitute a taking. Mr. Beck cited the Penn Central case relating to down-zoning and stated
the courts have found that down-zoning does not constitute a taking and that the
municipality has the greatest discretion relating to zoning and land use actions. He noted
that making land owners wait to develop is not an issue in the eyes of the court. This would
be related specifically to phasing in of land uses north of County Road 33.
The Commission discussed overlay zoning as a tool. Commissioner Stevens in particular
was interested in determining if overlay zoning would be considered a taking. Mr. Beck
noted that the property owner, after the zoning overlay is in place, still needs to have
reasonable use of the property, not the highest and best use.
Commissioner Stevens asked if there is a definition of the health, safety, morals, and general
welfare of the city. Mr. Beck noted that the courts have not clearly defmed these in black
and white terms, therefore, it is dependent upon a review of case law to identify how the
courts define these items.
Mr. Beck noted that amortization is no longer a tool that cities can use.
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Mr. Beck reviewed the 60 day rule requirements, the use of extensions and the need to have
written findings and resolutions of denial.
Mr. Beck briefly discussed the use of moratoria and the recent changes in law limiting
municipalities' abilities to use this.
The Commission discussed condemnation. Current court cases at the Supreme Court may
limit the ability for cities to use condemnation to acquire property for a higher purpose, but
transfer that property to private development for redevelopment pwposes. The Richfield
example was heavily discussed.
Conunissioner Stevens suggested that the HRA consider a redevelopment project in north
downtown in the area of the Arrow Building Center, NAPA, and Eagle's Club sites.
Mr. Beck reviewed the variance standards. Case law has suggested that as opposed to a
specific standard for granting a variance, that the standard is now that a variance could be
granted if the use of the property is reasonable. He stated this is a much more relaxed
standard from what we have previously considered in the past.
Consistency between the zoning and the Comprehensive Plan was discussed. The City is
not bound by the same rules that cities within the seven county metro area are, in that we do
not have to have consistency between the zoning map and the Comprehensive Land Use
Plan. However, it has been the City's policy to have these two items consistent whenever
possible.
The Conunission discussed with Councilmember Motin the 175m Avenue land use request.
This item will come back to the Conunission at a later date.
5.
Goal Setting Session
The Conunission briefly discussed possible goals they would like to accomplish for 2005-
2006. The goals identified in no order of priority were:
. Move the Northstar Corridor stop to downtown north of the tracks between Proctor
and Jackson.
. Redevelop the Arrow Building/Eagles/NAPA site
. Implement the Natural Resources inventory to prevent any more "Woodland Hills"
projects
. Begin transportation planning east-west corridor and Highway 169 interchanges
Ms. McPherson noted that two members of the Conunission are needed to serve on the
Natural Resources Inventory Task Force. Conunissioners Stevens and Offerman
volunteered to serve.
6. Adiournment
Having no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Submitted by,
Michele McPherson
Director of Planning