07-05-2005 CC MIN
MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER CITY COUNCIL
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL
MONDAY, JULY 5, 2005
Members Present: Mayor Klinzing, Councilmembers Dietz, Farber, Gumphrey, and Motin
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: City Administrator Pat Klaers, City Engineer Terry Maurer, Street
Superintendent Phil Hals, and Recording Secretary Jessica Miller
1. Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River City Council was called
to order at 6:30 p.m. by Mayor Klinzing.
2. Consider 07/05/2005 Agenda
Discussion on Trout Brook Farm wetland complex was added as item 5.1.A. and the
Update on Upland Avenue was changed to item 5.1.B.
MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER FARBER AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER GUMPHREY TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS
AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
3. Consider Consent Agenda
City Administrator Pat Klaers noted that staff has requested that the word “plan” be
changed to “resolution” in the second motion under item 7.1. of the June 20, 2005 minutes.
MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER FARBER AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER GUMPHREY TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING
CONSENT AGENDA:
3.1. JUNE 20, 2005 CITY COUNCIL MINUTES WITH CHANGE
3.2. CHECK REGISTER
3.3. TOBACCO LICENSE FOR JOSHUA LUND – JACKSON EXPRESS
CONTINGENT UPON TAXES BEING PAID IN FULL
3.4. TEMPORARY ON-SALE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR CHURCH OF ST.
ANDREW
3.5. HIRE ANGELA HANSKE AS LAW CLERK INTERN 20 HOURS A
WEEK AT A RATE OF $13.00 PER HOUR BEGINNING JULY 6, 2005.
3.6. REQUEST FOR LANDFILL ABATEMENT FUNDS BY THE BOYS &
GIRLS CLUB
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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4. Open Mike
No one appeared for Open Mike.
5.1.A. Trout Brook Farms Wetland Complex
City Engineer Terry Maurer provided a brief history of the Trout Brook Farms wetland
complex and how the pipes were designed. Mr. Maurer indicated that the wetland was never
intended to be an actual pond with pristine water; it was designed to be a type 3 wetland for
drainage/detention of water with some vegetation. Mr. Maurer stated the high water level
was caused by a combination of a pipe becoming clogged and of a pipe settling. Mr. Maurer
explained that the pond level can be restored to about a foot of water above its current
lowered level without adversely affecting the drainage of other properties. Mr. Maurer noted
that steps will be taken to ensure that the pipes do not settle or become clogged again. Mr.
Maurer also apologized if residents believed this was an actual pond because the plugging
problem had not been taken care of sooner.
Jennifer Mueller, 18306 Tyler Street NW – stated that on behalf of the residents of Trout
Brook Farms, they would like to see the pond restored to its previous water level. Ms.
Mueller handed out pictures of the pond before and after. She indicated that trees,
vegetation, and wildlife died due to the sudden decrease in the pond’s water level and that
there is a horrible smell surrounding the pond. She also indicated that residents contacted
the DNR and the County and neither entity knew anything about the pond being drained.
Ms. Mueller also indicated that she contacted the County Assessor’s office and was told that
residents on the pond were assessed higher property values because of their view of the
pond.
Ms. Mueller presented the Council with a petition of 52 names of residents who would like
the pond restored to its previous water level.
Mayor Klinzing questioned how quickly residents will see an improvement in the area. Mr.
Maurer indicated that improvement should be seen in a couple weeks as vegetation begins
to green up around the area.
Councilmember Dietz stated that the Council should write a letter to the County Assessor
indicating that this was never intended to be a pond and if residents living on or near the
drainage pond were assessed higher property taxes that their taxes should be reconsidered.
Trisha Shamp, 18300 Tyler Street NW – indicated that the city’s solution to this problem
is unacceptable as she and her husband bought their home because of the pond view and
they paid a higher lot premium. She stated that they were led to believe it was an actual
pond from D.R. Horton. Ms. Shamp also indicated that her property taxes are higher
because of the pond view.
Mr. Maurer indicated that normally large companies such as D.R. Horton have two sections
of the company, one for construction and one for marketing. Mr. Maurer stated both D.R.
Horton and their engineering firm were actively involved in the design of this type 3 wetland
and so they knew it was not meant to be an actual pond.
Steve Larsen, Brooklyn Park – indicated that he and his wife are looking to build a home
in Trout Brook Farms and they are being charged a higher lot premium because of the pond
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view and now the view is gone. He stated that they wanted to come to Elk River because it
was beautiful but now they may chose not to.
Councilmember Motin questioned if the pipe can be raised to allow two-feet of water back
into the pond. Mr. Maurer indicated that it cannot because it would compromise the way the
drainage system was designed and other areas of the development would flood in a large
rainfall event.
Holly Larsen, Brooklyn Park - stated that the system drained efficiently once the city staff
unplugged the pipe and so she believes it would drain efficiently in a 100 year rain event.
Mr. Maurer explained again how the system was designed and why the water level can only
be raised to about one foot.
Mayor Klinzing stated that the Council cannot take action that would cause drainage
problems for other houses in the area.
Councilmember Motin indicated that he is disappointed that it took the city so long to fix
the problem.
Councilmember Dietz questioned if the DNR should have been notified that the drainage
was going to take place. Mr. Maurer indicated that he didn’t believe they would need
notification because they are aware that the pond is actually a type 3 wetland but he will
contact them.
MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER GUMPHREY AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER FARBER TO SEND A LETTER TO THE COUNTY
ASSESSOR INDICATING THAT THE TROUT BROOK FARMS POND WAS
DESIGNED AS A TYPE 3 WETLAND FOR DRAINAGE/DETENTION AND
WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE AN ACTUAL POND AND THAT IS
PROPERTY VALUES WERE ASSESSED HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE POND
VIEW, THEY SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
Councilmember Motin questioned if the wetland could be dug deeper to hold more water.
Mr. Maurer indicated that in theory it could be dug out to be a type 4 wetland but that it
would be difficult to get equipment in there to dig. He also indicated that a permit would be
needed from the DNR and the Corp of Engineers. Mr. Maurer stated that the Corp of
Engineers does not give permits easily for type 4 wetlands.
Mayor Klinzing questioned who owns the property. Mr. Maurer stated that he believes it is a
small outlot owned by Trott Brook Farms with easements which allows the city the right to
go in and maintain the drainage pipes. Mayor Klinzing apologized if the residents were led
to believe this was an actual pond rather than a wetland but she stated that the city has
corrected the drainage problem and the Council will write a letter to the County Assessor
regarding the property values in the area.
5.1.B. Update on Upland Avenue Sidewalk – Jim Raivala Property
City Engineer Terry Maurer explained that Mr. Raivala’s property is part of an Auditor’s
Subdivision and a portion of his property description goes to the centerline of Upland
Avenue and that the city would have prescriptive rights to rebuild the roadway in this area
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but does not have the legal right to add a sidewalk behind the curb line. Mr. Maurer stated
that he met with Mr. Raivala prior to his appearance at the June 20, 2005 Council meeting to
discuss various options and since that meeting, he has had conversations with the Planning
Department and with Mr. Raivala. Mr. Maurer explained the three options that staff and Mr.
Raivala came up with for dealing with the sidewalk issue in priority ranking by Mr. Raivala:
Lot Split
Mr. Maurer indicated that Mr. Raivala has enough property to split off a 15,000 square foot
lot on which his existing home resides which would create a large enough parcel remaining
to create a buildable lot. Mr. Maurer stated that this buildable lot would provide additional
right-of-way along Upland Avenue to allow the sidewalk to be built. Mr. Maurer noted that
because this would create an additional lot, an additional assessment would be charged for
that lot.
No Lot Split – No Sidewalk
Mr. Maurer explained that Mr. Raivala’s second option would be not to split his property
and not to have the sidewalk constructed along his property line where the city lacks
easements. Mr. Maurer noted that the area in which the city lacks adequate easements is not
in front of Mr. Raivala’s property and that the city does have adequate easements to
construct the roadway and the proposed 6-foot sidewalk immediately behind the curb in
front of Mr. Raivala’s existing home. Mr. Maurer noted that the city could use it’s rights to
eminent domain to obtain the right-of-way necessary but that it would be costly.
City Purchase of Excess Property
Mr. Maurer stated that Mr. Raivala’s third option would be for the city to purchase the
remnant property including additional right-of-way along Upland Avenue. Mr. Maurer
explained that rather than purchase just the right-of-way, Mr. Raivala’s preference would be
to split off a 15,000 square foot lot for his current home to reside on and sell the remaining
portion of his property including the additional right-of-way along Upland Avenue to the
city. Mr. Maurer noted that this option would provide a small green space in the
neighborhood that has several trees on it and views of Lake Orono.
Jim Raivala, 441 Upland Avenue – thanked the Council and staff for their time on this
matter. Mr. Raivala stated that if the Council is agreeable to the lot split he would like them
to consider helping with some of the fees associated such as the park dedication and
application fees. He stated that he understands the need for a sidewalk in the area but he
feels that giving the city the right-of-way is quite generous. Mr. Raivala also asked that the
new buildable lot be granted similar easements as his property.
Mr. Maurer indicated that the lot split would take place through an Administrative
Subdivision (simple plat) and would only need to come before the Council. He also noted
that the person who wishes to build on the new lot would be the one who would have to
apply for the variance.
Mr. Maurer explained that the issue before the Council tonight is whether or not the lot split
is an acceptable offer. He stated that if both parties are agreeable then the details of the
setbacks would be brought back before the Council by Director of Planning Michele
McPherson at a future Council meeting. Mr. Maurer indicated that if the lot split moves
forward the city gains the necessary right-of-way to create a sidewalk so he would be in
support of assisting Mr. Raivala with the fees associated.
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Councilmember Motin indicated that he is in support of the lot split but does not believe
that Mr. Raivala should have to pay an additional assessment for the newly created lot. Mr.
Maurer stated that he worries that if the additional assessment is not charged then the city is
setting a precedent for future assessments. He noted that it is possible the assessment could
be deferred to when the lot is sold.
Mayor Klinzing indicated that she would like to assess the value of the property the city is
getting and take that amount away from the fees Mr. Raivala will be charged.
Councilmember Dietz questioned if the assessment can be legally deferred until the lot is
sold. He stated that he does not believe it is fair to others who have gone through the
assessment process to not assess for the additional lot but he would be in favor of deferring
the assessment until the lot is sold.
Mr. Maurer indicated that it may be easier for the city to just purchase the 25-feet of right-
of-way outside of the city’s prescriptive rights that is needed to put a sidewalk in from Mr.
Raivala. Mr. Maurer also asked that the record reflect that the Council reviewed and
discussed a concept of a lot split and had no concerns so Mr. Raivala may pursue that if he
wishes at a later date. The Council concurred. Mr. Maurer will discuss the issue with Mr.
Raivala after the Council meeting and if both parties are agreeable, he will contact someone
to assess the value of the property.
5.2. Northstar Business Park – Public Hearing
City Engineer Terry Maurer indicated that the Northstar Business Park property is owned by
the Economic Development Authority (EDA) and partially by the city. He stated that the
purpose of the public hearing is to allow for assessment of the cost to the EDA for the
improvements to develop the Northstar Business Park. Mr. Maurer explained that the
repayment of the assessments is planned through the use of Tax Increment Financing (TIF)
and/or Tax Rebate from development of the lots. Mr. Maurer provided a brief presentation
on the conceptual layout of the Northstar Business Park.
Mayor Klinzing opened the public hearing. There being no one to speak to this issue, Mayor
Klinzing closed the public hearing.
Mr. Maurer indicated that the original feasibility study was approved to do the project in
three phases but if all three businesses want to come in at this time then all three phases of
the project would be completed right away. Mr. Maurer noted that several conceptual
layouts were completed by staff and that the one presented is the option that was agreeable
to all three perspective businesses.
MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER FARBER AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER GUMPHREY TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 05-73
ORDERING THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE MATTER OF THE
NORTHSTAR BUSINESS PARK IMPROVEMENT OF 2005. MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
Councilmember Dietz indicated that he would like Director of Economic Development
Catherine Mehelich to prepare a memo outlining the procedures for soliciting businesses
into city business parks. He stated that he was told that one of the perspective businesses for
the Northstar Business Park was negotiating with Elk Park and then all of a sudden the
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business told them they were working with the city. He would like clarification that the city
is offering the same incentives as the private industry.
5.3. Discuss City Council Worksession Agendas
City Administrator Pat Klaers reviewed the tentative Council Worksession agendas for July
and August. A few items were moved from the July 11, 2005 agenda to the August 8, 2005
agenda.
6. Other Business
6.1. Sherburne County Fair Parade
City Administrator Pat Klaers indicated that he has not yet received any notification of the
details of the Sherburne County Fair Parade but since the Council has participated in past
years he wanted to remind them that the parade is Friday, July 15.
Councilmember Dietz indicated that he would like City Clerk Joan Schmidt to provide the
Council with the details of their float number, time, and meeting location prior to the parade
as she has in the past. The Council indicated that they would like to purchase candy to
distribute during the parade.
7. Staff Updates
City Administrator Pat Klaers distributed an email from the city’s attorney on the builders
lawsuit regarding the ruling for the City of Shakopee versus the Builder’s Association. Mr.
Klaers indicated that the city’s attorneys would like to hold an Executive Session on July 18,
2005 to update the Council on the lawsuit.
MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER DIETZ AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER GUMPHREY TO CALL AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OF
THE CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 18, 2005 AT 6:00 P.M. TO DISCUSS
ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVELEGE PURSUANT TO MINNESOTA STATUTE
13D.05 SUBD. 3(B). MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
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City Administrator Pat Klaers asked City Engineer Terry Maurer to update the Council on
the Carson Business Center project. Mr. Maurer explained that the developers of the area are
in the process of finalizing the development plans and the developer plans to begin hauling
in approximately 16,000 yards of fill to the southwest corner of Highway 169 and Main
Street very soon. Mr. Maurer indicated that staff had a meeting with the developer to discuss
travel routes into the development, expectations, etc. during hauling and construction.
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City Administrator Pat Klaers indicated that he has spoken to Greg Albrecht of Sathe
Executive Search and all three finalists for the Community Development Director position
have been contacted and all are available for interviews on Monday, July 25, 2005.
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8. Adjournment
There being no further business, Mayor Klinzing adjourned the meeting of the Elk River
City Council at 8:12 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Jessica Miller.
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Joan Schmidt
City Clerk