2.3 ERMUSR 5-12-2020ELK RIVER MUNICIPAL UTILITIES
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE UTILITIES COMMISSION
HELD VIRTUALLY DUE TO COVID-19 PANDEMIC
April 28, 2020
Members Present: Chair John Dietz, Vice Chair Al Nadeau, Commissioners Paul Bell,
Mary Stewart, and Matt Westgaard
ERMU Staff Present: Troy Adams, General Manager
Theresa Slominski, Administrations Director
Mark Fuchs, Operations Director
Mike Tietz, Technical Services Superintendent
Dave Ninow, Water Superintendent
Tom Sagstetter, Conservation & Key Accounts Manager
Michelle Canterbury, Executive Administrative Manager
Jennie Nelson, Customer Service Manager
Tom Geiser, Electric Superintendent
Melissa Karpinski, Finance Manager
Chris Kerzman, Engineering Manager
Others Present: Peter Beck, Attorney; Cal Portner, City Administrator; and
Debra Englund, CEO of HRExpertiseBP
1.0 GOVERNANCE
1.1 Call Meeting to Order
The special meeting of the Utilities Commission was called to order at 3:30 p.m. by Chair Dietz.
1.2 Roll Call
Chair Dietz conducted a roll call for the commission members.
1.3 Consider the Agenda
There were no additions or corrections to the agenda.
Moved by Commissioner Westgard and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to approve the
April 28, 2020, agenda. Motion carried 5-0.
2.0 BUSINESS ACTION
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2.1 General Manager Resignation
Mr. Adams shared that he has already had the opportunity to talk with each of the
Commissioners regarding his resignation; his letter of resignation was attached for the
Commission to formally receive. Mr. Adams took a moment to talk about his decision to
leave ERMU, which was motivated by the opportunity to run the largest public power
utility and power agency in Wisconsin, and the chance to stretch himself and grow as a
leader. He thanked the Board, and in particular Chair Dietz, for believing in him in the very
beginning and taking a chance on him. Mr. Adams stated that he wants to do whatever he
can to make the leadership transition a success.
Commissioner Westgaard noted that Mr. Adams characterized himself as an unknown
back when he started as the general manager and wanted him to know that today he is
looked at as a talented and well respected professional. And as sad as it is to see him
leave this organization, we would never want to stand in the way of someone wanting to
grow both personally and professionally.
Commissioner Bell told Mr. Adams that he appreciated all he has done for ERMU, and that
he has worked hard and deserves this opportunity.
Commissioner Stewart echoed what the other Commissioners had stated. She shared that
Mr. Adams has brought a lot to ERMU and will be greatly missed. She complimented him
on how he has worked with staff to build them up and create a better working
atmosphere. She noted that he is leaving behind a good group of employees that will
move forward and make him proud.
Commissioner Nadeau said that he knew one day Mr. Adams would be leaving, but he did
not think it would be this soon. He congratulated Mr. Adams and wished the best for him.
Chair Dietz expressed that he did not regret for a minute recommending Mr. Adams for
the general manager position eleven years ago. He explained that when Mr. Adams
assumed the role we were in a far different place, and we have since evolved into one of
the most well-respected utilities in Minnesota; he noted that a large part of that is due to
the leadership of Mr. Adams. And like the other Commissioners, Chair Dietz stated that
he knew the day would come when Mr. Adams would leave and that he understood why
he was leaving. Chair Dietz wished Mr. Adams and his family the best.
Moved by Commissioner Nadeau and seconded by Commissioner Westgard to receive the
General Manager Resignation Notice dated April 20, 2020. Motion carried 5-0.
2.2 Leadership Transition
With the resignation from the General Manager, the commission discussed the following
leadership transition action items:
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Consultant It was recommended by Mr. Adams that the commission consider hiring a
consultant to help coordinate the general manager search and placement process. Mr.
Adams shared that the leadership team has been using a consultant, Debra Englund of
HRExpertiseBP, for team development for the past six years, and that she had also
facilitated the organizational effectiveness survey with staff. He explained that given that
background, Ms. Englund would have a distinct advantage to help evaluate fit and skill
sets needed to compliment the organizationIt was his recommendation that the
commission hire HRExpertiseBP to assist with the search and placement process.
Ms. Englund introduced herself, provided some background, and talked about her
experience working with utility boards in this capacity. Ms. Englund reached out to the
commission to see if they had any questions.
Chair Dietz asked Ms. Englund if her services included assisting with the advertisement,
job description, screening and interview process, and guidance throughout the process.
Ms. Englund responded that it did, and she would also help to develop interview
questions and train the commission on how to conduct an interview.
Chair Dietz inquired if the service provided would be a set amount or charged on an
hourly basis. Ms. Englund stated that her firm is different than most which charge a flat
fee or a percentage based on the final pay, her firm charges by billable hour. Based on
previous experience, she estimated the cost range for this project would be between
$15,000 to $20,000.
The commission discussed the candidate pool and the pros and cons of searching
exclusively internal versus conducting an internal/external search. Taking into
consideration that currently no one internally has expressed an interest, the commission
had consensus to conduct the search for candidates both internally and externally.
After further discussion, the commission had consensus to contract with Debra Englund of
HRExpertise to help coordinate the general manager search and replacement process.
Ms. Englund talked briefly about what the contract language would include. Attorney Beck
requested Ms. Englund include a little more detail on scope/services of the contract. To
keep things moving forward, he suggested the board authorize Chair Dietz to execute the
contract for those services on their behalf.
Moved by Commissioner Westgaard and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to approve
entering into an agreement with Debra Englund of HRExpertiseBP for the general
manager search and placement process, and authorizing Chair Dietz to execute the
Motion carried 5-0.
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Committee Mr. Adams recommended that the commission establish a search
committee, consisting of two commissioners, that is authorized to work with the
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consultant to make certain candidate screening decisions and to prepare a refined list of
candidates for the board.
The commission had some questions on the process of narrowing down the candidates to
be interviewed by the commission. Ms. Englund responded.
There was discussion on who should be involved in the interview process. There was
commission consensus to have the search committee conduct the initial interviews, and the
full commission conduct interviews with the finalists.
Chair Dietz and Commissioner Stewart volunteered to be part of the Search Committee.
Moved by Commissioner Bell and seconded by Commissioner Nadeau to approve the
creation of a Search Committee, comprised of Chair Dietz and Commissioner Stewart, that is
authorized to work with the consultant to make certain candidate screening decisions and
to prepare a refined list of candidates for the board. Motion carried 5-0.
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Schedule Ms. Englund presented a template of the CEO selection process and walked
through each of the steps in the process and the resources for accomplishing them. She
explained that once the commission determines a target start date for the new general
manager, the schedule will be developed to accommodate the deadline. Ms. Englund
presented some examples of the qualities that may be desirable to have in the new
general manager. She stated she would work with the commission to develop a
personalized list of the qualities they are looking for in the next general manager.
Commissioner Bell had questions on what degree Ms. Englund would help in the search
process, he asked if she would be recruiting for the position, or just posting for it. Ms.
Englund responded that it was up to the commission and noted that she could do both.
Earlier in the meeting the commission discussed the candidate pool for the position, and
as no internal candidate has yet expressed interest, the commission had consensus to
extend the search to external candidates. Both Commissioner Stewart and Commissioner
Westgaard wanted it on record that they still highly encourage any staff that has interest
to apply for the position.
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Interim Mr. Adams suggested the commission appoint an interim general manager to
allow for some time to work with that person and get them up to speed before he leaves.
Mr. Adams recommended the commission appoint Ms. Slominski as the interim general
manager with a sunset date.
To get a better handle on a sunset date for the interim appointment and a timeframe for
hiring a new general manager, Attorney Beck suggested setting some goals of what will be
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accomplished by the next commission meeting, such as establishing a refined schedule
with dates. Ms. Englund suggested that the Commission give her a target date for the new
hire, and she would prepare a schedule to accommodate it.
Commissioner Stewart inquired if there would be additional compensation for Ms.
Slominski should she be appointed. Mr. Adams responded that a 10% increase, which is
typical in the industry, should be considered; the increase would be approximately $1,000
per month.
After discussion, the commission had consensus to approve the appointment of Ms.
Slominski as interim general manager for a four-month period, or until the next GM is
hired.
Moved by Commissioner Stewart and seconded by Commissioner Nadeau to appoint
Theresa Slominski as interim general manager for a four-month period, or until the next
general manager is hired. Motion carried 5-0.
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Temporary contract services for transition Mr. Adams stated that the commission may
want to consider having him on retainer to provide consulting and transition support after
his departure. He explained that this is more typical for retirements but is not uncommon
for transition where a general manager is leaving on good terms.
There was discussion on the length of time to retain Mr. Adams and the dollar amount.
Considering what was discussed, Chair Dietz asked Ms. Englund how this potential
arrangement compared to other known transition consulting agreements. Ms. Englund
responded that normally the consultant would receive one month of their normal pay
plus benefits. But given that Mr. Adams would be available to provide consulting to the
interim general manager as well as the new hire, she indicated that an arrangement at
$3,000 per month for a six-month period
Moved by Commissioner Bell and seconded by Commissioner Nadeau to approve
contracting services from the outgoing general manager at $3,000 per month for a six-
month period. Motion carried 5-0.
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Ms. Englund, Attorney Beck, and the commission created a list of action items to take
place before the commission meeting. Ms. Englund will provide an update on those items
at the May 12 commission meeting.
Attorney Beck stated that as we are developing the interview process for this position,
given Commission permission, he would like to consulabor attorney Mark
Mathison to ensure we are abiding by labor laws. The commission was in support.
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Attorney Beck educated the commission on serial meetings and stressed the importance
of not talking with each other outside of an open meeting. He explained that the search
committee does not violate the open meeting law as there are only two commissioners on
the committee.
3.0 ADJOURN SPECIAL MEETING
Moved by Commissioner Westgaard and seconded by Commissioner Nadeau to adjourn
the special meeting of the Elk River Municipal Utilities Commission at 4:48 p.m. Motion
carried 5-0.
Minutes prepared by Michelle Canterbury
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John J. Dietz, ERMU Commission Chair
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Tina Allard, City Clerk
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