10-26-1995 PC MIN - SPECIAL
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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT SALK JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL COMMONS AREA
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 26, 1995
Members Present:
Chair Kuester, Commissioners Dillon, Kreger, Minton, Tacheny,
Sullivan and Thompson
Members Absent:
None
Staff Present:
Steven B. Ach, City Planner; Stephen Rohlf, Building and Zoning
Administrator, Terry Maurer, City Engineer; Peter Beck, City
Attorney, Debbie Kleckner, Recording Secretary
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof. the special meeting of the Elk River
Planning Commission was called to order at 7 p.m. by Chair Kuester.
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COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 26, 1996
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. COMMISSIONER DILLON SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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Chair Kuester provided background information on the Comprehensive Plan
process. The goals of the Comprehensive Plan are updated every 6 to 8 years.
The City of Elk River Comprehensive Plan was last updated in 1988. The Plan is
used by the Planning Commission, as well as the staff, as a significant tool in
reviewing planning and development requests.
Commissioner Minton explained how the steps involved in completing the update
of the Comprehensive Plan by the Steering Committee (see attached Exhibit A).
He explained how the members of the committee were chosen to represent the
various committees, boards and groups throughout the City (see attached Exhibit
B). Commissioner Minton expressed his thanks to the committee for their work, the
citizens who regularly attended the Steering Committee meetings, and to staff.
Chair Kuester explained that the specific transportation plan and the park plan
would not be considered at this meeting. These two topics will receive individual
attention at meetings to be held in December or January.
Chair Kuester noted the Planning Commission has received the following
correspondence related to this publiC hearing:
1) Letter from business and commercial property owners on east Highway 10,
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expressing their desire for the extension of municipal water and sewer.
The following signatures were noted: Charlie Houle, Houle Oil Company,
Inc.; Kusum Shah, Red Carpet Inn; Harry Bebo, NAP A of Elk River, Inc.; Larry
Hickman, Furniture & Things; Les Lundquist. Riverview Sports & Marine;
Nancy Chase, Sun & Swim Pools; Scott Powell, Elk River Ford/Chrysler.
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Letter from Mark Malzahn, asking the Planning Commission to adopt the
recommendations of the Steering Committee regarding the East-West
corridor proposal.
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Letter from residents on 213th Avenue, in support of maintaining the 10
acre minimum lot size in the A-1 zoning district. and also, their opposition
to the clustering concept.
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Letter from Dave Anderson, Steering Committee member.
Letter from Richard Foster regarding commercial development of the East
side of the Highway 169 corridor.
The Draft Comprehensive Plan was reviewed in sections as follows:
IV. Utilities
Commissioner Minton noted that the Steering Committee recommended sewer
and water be extended into the southeast section along both sides of Highway
10 down to the Kelley Farm, or, 165th Street.
Steve Ach explained that staff recommends expanding the urban service area to
include a larger area to be developed in phases over several years. The northern
boundary of staff's recommendation is 193rd Avenue, extends east to the eastern
City limits, down to County Road 12, one-half mile west then south along the
Fillmore alignment down to 165th, where the boundary extends west one-half
mile then south to the Oliver Kelley Farm.
Chair Kuester opened the public hearing.
A resident questioned whether or not Yale Street was included in the area
proposed for extension of the urban service district. Commissioner Minton
indicated that Mississippi Heights was excluded based upon the request of 100
percent of the residents. He added that if the residents would like to hookup at
some point in the future, they would be able to do so by petition and amending
the Comprehensive Plan's urban service boundary, but that the costs would be
significantly more.
Mark Martin, 11063 205th Avenue NW, questioned why City staff included a
recommendation that is different than the Steering Committee's
recommendation.
Steve Ach explained that staff's recommendation is a result of other options
presented to the Steering Committee during their review of extension of the
urban service area. Staff offers this option for the Planning Commission's
consideration because of the inevitable development pressures the City will be
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faced with in the future, and also, that if the wastewater treatment facility is
expanded, that this area meets those expectations.
Mark Martin questioned if the additional area was being added to the Steering
Committee's recommendation because John Plaisted has purchased a large
amount of property in that vicinity.
Commissioner Kreger stated that the property included in staff's
recommendation was previously discussed by the Steering Committee. He added
that a much larger area than staff's recommendation was discussed as well as
including the entire eastern area.
Commissioner Minton stated that the Steering discussed how to preserve land
east of the downtown area, in case the larger landowners want to develop it in
the future (Le., larger lot sizes). Commission Minton explained the difficulty in
subdividing the 2-1/2 acre lots. He added that if the urban area of the city is
eventually going to push eastward, it should be made known at this time.
Commissioner Minton felt that the Steering Committee ended up recommending
a smaller area for extending the urban service, as a reaction to the comments
from the public at those discussions. He felt that staff is looking further into the
future, and this was a wise choice.
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Steve Ach explained the phasing concept that is being used in extending the
urban service area to the west, and how phasing could be accomplished in the
eastern area. He noted that designating the area for future extension of services
lets people know what is planned and they should not be surprised later.
Ron Ebner, 17015 Highway 10, questioned why the City was thinking of extending
water and sewer down east Highway 10, since the three largest landowners did
not want it; those being Cargill, Specht and the Kelley Farm. He stated that
because a small handful of the business owners on Highway 10 wanted the
utilities extended, they do not represent the 50 percent of landowners. He was
told when the township was annexed that water and sewer would not be
extended in an area unless at least 50 percent of the property owners petitioned
for the services. Mr. Ebner stated he did not want sewer and water, since he had
recently upgraded his septic system. He asked that cost figures be made
available to them before discussing the issue. Mr. Ebner stated that the property
owners that wanted it should pay for it. If an assessment were put on their
property, they would be forced to sell their property.
Commissioner Kreger explained that the City does not want to put in sewer and
water where it is not wanted or needed. Rather, they are trying to define an area
on the map where there may be a demand for water and sewer in the future, so
that the treatment plant and the mains can be designed to meet the expected
capacity.
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Don Geisting, employee of Cargill, expressed his opposition to being included in
the proposed urban service area. Mr. Geisting explained that approximately 700
acres of Cargill's land would be in the assessment area, at a cost of several
million dollars. Cargill is an agricultural business employing 35 people, and they
have been at their location for 37 years. He explained that Cargill has 5 wells on
their property and numerous septic systems. Mr. Geisting felt Cargill would be
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forced out of business if they were assessed, and asked that they be excluded
from the urban service area.
Dennis Chuba, 10451 175th Avenue NW, asked that the Planning Commission
make it clear that if the proposed area is included in the urban service district,
development will be severely restricted.
Commissioner Kreger stated that the current ordinance prohibits subdivision of
land in the urban service area, but the Planning Commission is considering an
ordinance amendment with language to allow some development to occur.
Roland Benson, 17276 Highway 10, stated he operates a monument business out
his home, located between NAPA and Saxon, and the Mississippi side of Mr.
Powell's land. He expressed his concern that an assessment would force him out
of business. He felt there were other pockets of residents that would be against
water and sewer, as he and Mr. Ebner are opposed.
Truman Moyer, 16807 Highway 10, expressed his concern that his business
neighbors would be forced out of business. He felt the feelings of the people that
have lived here a long time should be considered. He felt that if the Mississippi
Heights residents were able to opt out of the urban service area, it is only fair that
others should be able to do so, as well. Mr. Moyer stated that he was told at a
previous Council meeting, everyone in the affected area would be notified of the
proposed amount of the assessment. As of this date, he has not received
anything.
Marcia Moen, 19227 Tyler Street, expressed her opposition to being included in
the urban service area.
Mark Coombs, 19753 Cleveland Street, opposed to the proposed urban service
area. No one wants it and he felt that some of the "country" of Elk River should
be left alone.
There being no further comments from the public on this section of the Draft
Comprehensive Plan, Chair Kuester closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO POSTPONE ACTION ON SECTIONS I, II, AND III,
UNTIL AFTER CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SECTIONS.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
IV. RESIDENTIAL
Commissioner Minton reviewed the changes in the "Residential" section of the
Draft Comprehensive Plan recommended by the Steering . Committee.
Commissioner Minton explained that the Steering Committee heard from
residents in the Agricultural District (generally, the area north of County Road 33)
that wanted to be able to subdivide their property if they chose. Later, another
group of residents spoke in favor of maintaining the 10 acre minimum. The
Steering Committee recommended maintaining the 10 acre minimum lot size,
with an option for clustering up to 8 homes per 40 acres, with the stipulation that
50 percent of the developable land would be forever preserved as open space.
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The Steering Committee also recommended that there was not a need for
additional multiple family zoned property at this time, and reduced the amount
of property with this zoning designation by changing it to some other use such as
commercial, business park or office space. Some of the minimum lot sizes were
changed in the residential districts, as well as adding "average" lot sizes. Also,
some areas designated for 10,000 square foot minimum lot sizes were changed to
require larger lot sizes (up to 14,000 square feet).
Chair Kuester opened the public hearing for discussion of the residential section
of the Draft Comprehensive Plan.
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Cecilia Scheel, 10271 213th Avenue NW, stated that she and her husband,
Eugene, own 160 acres north of County Road 33. Mrs. Scheel stated that some of
her neighbors have had large parcels of land in their families for about 100 years.
She felt that when 40 acre farmers came into the area, the 100+ acre farmers
were not happy; when the 20 acre farmers came in, the 40 acre owners where
not happy; when the 20 acre farmers came in they were unhappy with the 10
acre people, and, the 10 acre property owners don't want the 2-1/2 acre
people. After people acquire their land, it seems the rules change. She stated
that she and her husband have invested in their land, just as some people invest
in stocks or bonds. Since they (the Scheels) do not tell people what they can do
with their stocks and bonds, others should not be able to dictate what they can
do with their land. Mrs. Scheel stated that she has learned from Anoka County
and Sherburne County that vacant land in this area is selling for $4,000 - $6,000 an
acre. Across from her land, property is being developed in Burns Township (Anoka
County) in 2-1/2 acres, and the same is true in Livonia Township to the north. Mrs.
Scheel expressed her opposition to the clustering proposal. Mrs. Scheel felt it was
unclear whether or not the dedicated open space would remain in their custody,
who would manage it, and if the property owner would pay taxes on it. Mrs.
Scheel stated that at a value of $4,000 - $6,000 per acre for the dedicated open
space, she and her family would essentially be charged $80,000 - to $120,000 for
developing their land. In addition, there are other costs associated with
development such as roads and utility easements. She did not feel that anyone
would be willing to donate $120,000 to the City and questioned why this would
be asked of the residents in the northern area of the City. She stated she would
like the City Attorney's opinion regarding State Statutes that would permit the
clustering concept with dedicated open space. She felt it was unconstitutional
to separate out certain people for certain things. Mrs. Scheel stated that if land is
to be given up to the City, property owners should be paid for it. She concluded
that the City is placing a hardship on her and her neighbors that have reached
retirement age by not allowing them to develop their property.
Craig Robinson, 10113 213th Avenue NW, stated he was opposed to a change in
the minimum 10 acre lot size, as well as the clustering concept.
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Commissioner Kreger explained the clustering option recommended by the
Steering Committee as follows: In addition to the current zoning standard which
allows 4 lots per 40 acres in the Agricultural District, an alternative option would
be allowed for 8 lots per 40 acres. The landowner would donate 50 percent of the
land for a land trust or preserve it as open space in some other way. To develop
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lots, 1 to 2 acres in size, and the 8th lot would contain the balance of the 20
acres. Roughly 7 to 10 acres would be taken by the 7 lots and the 8th lot
(probably containing the original homestead), would be approximately 10 acres
in size. At some point in time (50, 60 or 100 years), the 10 acre parcel could
possibly be developed, and the 20 acres of open space would continue to be
preserved. Commissioner Kreger stated that this option would probably only
appeal to someone who felt strongly about the community and conserving
nature for the future, and would allow them to get an extra 4 lots when
developing their land.
Eugene Scheel, 10271 213th Avenue, stated that the clustering recommended by
the Steering Committee was just like what was put into Mr. Kreger's landfill --
"garbage" . Also, "any fool can make a plan; it takes a wise man to implement
it." Mr. Scheel was opposed to maintaining the 10 acre minimum lot size, and
supported property owners being to subdivide their property
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Lynette Robinson, 10113 213th Avenue, explained she distributed a petition and
obtained signatures from 14 of the 16 property owners on 213th Avenue, in favor
of maintaining the 10 acre minimum lot size and opposed to clustering. She felt
the clustering concept would attract nuisances with the smaller lots. Also, the
open spaces would be difficult to maintain and would require extensive
regulation. Ms. Robinson stated that persons whose names appeared on the
petition have received harassing phone calls by a neighbor who stands to make
a profit on the sale of small lots, asking why they had signed the petition and
what did the neighbor ever do to them to make them sign it. She stated that the
person making the calls serves on the City Council and will be voting on this issue.
She felt this person has a personal interest in this issue, and it is a conflict of
interest. She stated she was willing to go up and down County Road 33 to get
more signatures of people opposed to changing the 10 acre minimum lot size.
Robert Holland, 21375 Brook Road, stated he has owned 52 acres on County
Road 21 for 20 years. He stated he did not see any sense in the clustered housing.
He indicated the federal government stated many years ago that a 2-1/2 acre
site was adequate for drawing water and maintaining a septic disposal system.
He stated that he did not believe the article in the Star News that stated 2-1/2
acre lots will pollute the City of Elk River. In addition, he felt that many of the
people opposed to reducing the 10 acre minimum were 25 to 30 years old. He
added that when they become 60 to 65 years old they will change their mind
and want to reduce the size of their property, as well.
Robin Tuttle, 12390 Ranch Road, voiced her concern that many of the people
present tonight have not attended the previous meetings to express their opinion.
Dick Anderson, 21850 Jarvis Street, expressed support for maintaining the 10 acre
minimum lot size.
Angie Anderson, 20760 Quincy Street, stated she supported the 10 acre minimum
lot size. She expressed concern that Elk River is not fully developed like Coon
Rapids where she grew up. She felt that Elk River has potential to be a unique
and outstanding community.
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Mark Martin asked for an explanation of the difference between a goal and
policy. Chair Kuester explained that a goal is an overall idea and a policy states
how the City intends to accomplish the goal. Mr. Martin stated he felt that a
majority of the property owners present at the Steering Committee meeting to
discuss the transportation plan ,wanted to see the agricultural area stay rural. He
was concerned that if the 10 acre minimum lot size is reduced to 2-1/2 acres,
what happens if sewer and water is extended in the future.
Wesley Hunt, 11149 205th Avenue, felt that requiring a landowner to dedicate 50
percent of their property to open space in order to develop it was unfair. He felt
that park lands should be paid for by everyone in the City. He felt it was like
asking people that work for large companies with retirement programs to split up
their money with the residents of Elk River when they retire.
Dan Boman, 13921 1215t street, stated he owns 110 acres off 213th Avenue. He is
struggling with the concept of "where City Meets Country". Currently he is
involved in mitigation of a wetland on his property. In order to develop property
in the agricultural zone, the City wants "city" standards -- 32 foot wide roads,
asphalt curbing, storm retention ponds; everything that is in a urban subdivision
with smaller lots. Yet the City requires the 10 acre lot sizes which do not support
the cost of the required improvements. He stated that since there are people on
both sides of the issue, they will never come to an agreement and the city will
have to find a balance.
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Jeff Scheel, son of Eugene and Cecilia Scheel, stated that he does not own
property in the City but that he is affected by decisions made regarding his
parent's property since it will be part of his inheritance someday. He explained
that when he parents purchased their property twenty-five years ago, it was not
part of the City of Elk River. He felt it was unfortunate that the people that have
recently moved out of the metro area on 10 acre parcels are dictating what the
people can do with their land who have lived here for many years. He felt that
the people who are supposed to give up 50 percent of their land as open space
should be compensated by those who want it to remain open space. Mr. Scheel
stated that by maintaining the 10 acre minimum and implementing the clustering
option, his parents will lose close to a million dollars. He did not feel those people
objecting to development of smaller lots have the right to take his parent's
investment away from his family. He did not feel anyone sitting on the
Commission would be willing to give up half of their land, just for a concept
"Where City and County Flow Together". He also felt that the 10 acre property
owners were blight on the neighborhood, with their junk piles and horses on the
road, and felt this does not happen on the 2-1/2 acre lots. He concluded by
stating he felt the recommendations for the agricultural zone which restricted his
parents from developing their property were totally unfair. Mr. Scheel stated that
his mother, Cecilia Scheel, would not be voting on this particular issue.
Tom Gustafson, 213th Avenue, stated he was in support for the 10 acre minimum.
He felt the large property owners have rights and should be compensated for
their investment in the land.
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Dennis Chuba, 10451 175th Avenue, stated that it is inevitable for development
pressure to come to Elk River. He cautioned the 10 acre property owners that if
they want to live in a rural environment, they should look for property much
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further north, because Elk River is going to be developed, whether they like it or
not.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to keep the public hearing open
and continue the discussion on the remainder of the Draft Comprehensive Plan.
Peter Beck responded to an earlier comment by stating that their are various
options for clustered housing, and that clustering has not been determined to be
"unconstitutional" .
Chair Kuester stated that there are brochures and a video tape available
regarding clustered housing, and anyone interested in this information should
contact city staff.
IV. COMMERCIAL
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Commissioner Minton explained the important role of commercial development
in maintaining a healthy tax base. The Steering Committee has recommended
that the commercial zoning extend north on the east side of Highway 169 to
197th Avenue, and no further than the 194th Avenue alignment on the west side
of Highway 169. Commercial areas are proposed in the vicinity of Joplin and
west Highway 1 a and also on east Highway 1 a. It is recommended that the
commercial standards be upgraded along the southeost portion of Highway 1 a,
to provide a more appealing entrance to the City of Elk River. The Steering
Committee adopted the complete report and recommendations of the
Chamber of Commerce Downtown Task Force. An additional recommendation
calls for an early central theme for the downtown, as well as allowing a mix of
residential in the downtown commercial area. Commissioner Minton thanked
Jackie Schuelein and Bill Rubin for their work on the task force report.
Lynn Weaver, resident in Hillside Estates, questioned why more commercial area
was being recommended when there are so many buildings empty in the
downtown.
Mike Fox, 11747 197th Avenue, stated that the 14 of the 15 member Steering
Committee previously supported limiting commercial on the west and east sides
of Highway 169 to the 194th Avenue alignment. He added that staff supported
that recommendation as well. Later, the Steering Committee made a motion to
extend the commercial to 197th on the east, by a vote of 4-2-1, with only 7
members of the Steering Committee present. Mr. Fox asked that the Planning
Commission reject the Steering Committee's recommendation for the extension
of commercial on the east side of Highway 169.
Phil Johnson, 19440 Holt Street, expressed his agreement with Mr. Fox's comment.
He questioned why the Steering Committee's recommendation was changed.
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Steve Ach explained that staff is recommending a focus area study be
undertaken for the area east of Highway 169 between 193rd and 197th, to
determine the transportation needs, appropriate land uses and to consider the
adjacent residential areas.
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VI. INDUSTRIAL
Commissioner Minton explained the reasons for the Steering Committee's
recommendations to increase the amount of industrial-zoned property. He
stated that much of the land currently zoned for industrial is not available for
development. Areas around the Sherburne County Courthouse and existing
business park were recommended for rezoning to Business Park, in case the
Sherburne County Fairgrounds is ever moved in the future. In the southeast
section of the City, the Steering Committee has proposed an area for Business
Park zoning, as well as an industrial park directly east of the downtown area off
County Road 12 and adjacent to the Industrial Hardfacing site.
Steve Ach felt it is necessary to assemble industrial areas in an orderly fashion in
order to obtain a property land use mix. Commissioner Kreger questioned why
staff was not in favor of the industrial park along County Road 12 and 13. Steve
explained that developing a business park in this area may detract from the
success of the business park on West Highway 10, where water and sewer is
already readily available.
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Robin Tuttle, 12390 Ranch Road, stated that there is a large industrial area where
the gravel mines are currently located. She questioned why the City needs more
industrial area and how many people do the citizen's of Elk River want in their
community.
VII. PARKS AND OPEN SPACES
Chair Kuester explained the revised Master Park Plan will be reviewed at a later
date. This discussion will cover the goals and policies in the Draft Comprehensive
Plan.
There were no comments from the public regarding the Parks and Open Spaces
goals and policies.
VIII. TRANSPORTATION PLAN
Chair Kuester noted that only the goals and policies will be considered, and not
specific transportation routes or issues.
Merlin Bertilson, 19078 Waco Street, expressed his concern that Waco Street not
be used as a collector street for an east-west route. He felt that Zebulon would
be a better alternative.
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The Planning Commissioners discussed whether or not to consider discussion on
specific collectors, since collectors were listed in the goals and policies. The City
Attorney advised that comments be allowed since the public hearing was open.
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Scott Brobeck, 13822 208th Avenue, felt that the policies listed under the goal for
an east-west corridor assumes that there is a need for one. Chair Kuester pointed
out that the goal reads, "explore the possible need".
Ruth Brown, 10815 Tyler Street, expressed her objection to the collector line
referred to as "E." under Item 1. Collector Links. (193rd Avenue between U.S.
Highway 169 and County Road 13 (Tyler Street)). She stated that a link in this
location would cross through her property.
Robin Tuttle expressed her concern that this issue was being discussed after the
audience was told it would not be discussed and people here for this issue have
already left the meeting.
Bill Zacarda, 13346 Ranch Road, questioned why the Planning Commission feels
they must hear comments on the east-west corridor. He stated he felt many
people did not come to the meeting because they were told it would not be
discussed. Mr. Zacarda questioned what is happening with the committee that
was suggested by the Steering Committee to review this issue.
Peter Beck stated that the specific plan is not being discussed and citizens are
being allowed to expressed their comments only.
Chair Kuester stated that the Planning Commission cannot legally make a motion
to close discussion on the transportation plan when the public hearing is still open.
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Mark Martin stated he feels it is important the Planning Commission make it very
clear that the collector links be taken out of the Comprehensive Plan when this
section is adopted.
IX. IMPLEMENTATION
Ruth Brown commended the Steering Committee for their hard work dealing with
the difficult issues associated with the Comprehensive Plan. She felt that it is very
important to plan for the future of Elk River. Ms. Brown feels that progress means
more than growth; it also means improvement of services for the people who
currently live here. She encouraged the Planning Commission to preserve the
quality of life for the citizens of Elk River which includes being supportive of its
residents, promotes good values and makes the community a place where
people want to raise their children.
There being no further comments from the public on the Draft Comprehensive
Plan, Chair Kuester closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TAKE A FIVE
MINUTES RECESS. COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
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Chair Kuester encouraged members of the audience to consider serving on the
Planning Commission to become move involved in their community. She
expressed her thanks to those people who have attended the Steering
Committee meetings and provided their input.
The Planning Commission reviewed and took action on the various sections of the
Draft Comprehensive Plan as follows:
IV. RESIDENTIAL
Commissioner Minton suggested that the cluster concept be modified to allow
only 4 lots per 40 acres, rather than the 8 per 40 as recommended by the Steering
Committee. He added that he felt the 1 acre minimum lot size and 50 percent
open space requirements still apply.
Chair Kuester questioned what happens to the open space. Chair Minton stated
that it could be maintained by the landowner and possibly still farmed, but the
land could not be developed.
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Steve Ach suggested that the Planning Commission could recommend that the
clustering concept be encouraged, and under "Necessary Actions" it could
include a recommendation that a clustering ordinance be established which
addresses the specifics. Peter Beck agreed that rather than recommending
specific densities at this time, the concept of clustering could be recommended.
Commissioner Kreger suggested the following language:
Based upon the Steering Committee's recommendation for clustering in the A-1
zone, the City will need to further investigate and develop a potential ordinance
and determine appropriate density. He added that costs associated with cluster
development should not be paid by the City.
Commissioner Dillon expressed his opposition to clustering. He felt this was leap-
frog development and needed further investigation before recommendation in
the Comp Plan.
Commissioner Minton suggested that a reference should be made for the
location of townhomes. He questioned the location of the 3rd paragraph under
"D. Future Plan" and whether or not it should be switched with the last
paragraph of that section on Page 33. These changes were also noted:
-Paragraph 5 - insert the word "the" before "Elk River"
-Page 31 - 2nd bullet point - remove the word "City"
-Include statement to address establishing standards to maintain integrity of
housing in the community.
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COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SECTION IV. -
RESIDENTIAL PLAN, WITH THE FOllOWING CHANGES:
- TYPING AMENDMENTS
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- ADD STATEMENT TO ADDRESS TOWN HOMES AND THEIR LOCATION
- CHANGING THE RECOMMENDATION REGARDING CLUSTERING CONCEPT TO ADD
A NECESSARY ACTION - EXPLORE CLUSTER POSSIBILITIES AND CREATE AN
ORDINANCE TO SUPPORT IT
- UNDER GOAL NO.6 - ADD AN ADDITIONAL POLICY TO ADDRESS MAINTAINING
HOUSING STANDARDS.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-2.
COMMISSIONERS DILLON AND SULLIVAN OPPOSED.
Commissioner Sullivan stated that she voted against the motion as she is in
agreement with the language proposed by the Steering Committee.
Commissioner Dillon stated he is opposed to clustering.
VI. COMMERCIAL PLAN
Commissioner Minton proposed the following changes:
_ Under "Future Plan" mention that the Steering Committee adopted the Task
Force Plan in full.
_ mention should be made regarding upgrading the commercial standards along
East Highway 10 as a "Policy".
_ Under Goal No.4, add a policy "explore the possibility of a residential and
commercial mix in the downtown.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SECTION VI. -
COMMERCIAL PLAN, WITH THE CHANGES PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER MINTON
MENTIONED ABOVE. COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
VI. INDUSTRIAL PLAN
The Planning Commission and staff discussed whether or not the intent was to
rezone the area at County Road 12 and 13 Business Park or Light Industrial.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SECTION VI. -
INDUSTRIAL PLAN, WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITION:
GOAL NO.1, POLICY NO.1 BE CHANGED TO READ, "ENCOURAGE CLUSTERING OF
INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS ALONG THE CITY'S MAJOR ROADWAYS."
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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I. GROWTH MANAGEMENT
II. BACKGROUND INFORMATION
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COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SECTION I. -
GROWTH MANAGEMENT, AND SECTION II. - BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
III. UTILITIES PLAN
Commissioner Minton questioned the reference to the City's capital improvement
program which was clarified by the City Engineer.
Commissioner Kreger requested that the word "should" be changed to "may" in
paragraph 1, Page 23, under 2. Water System.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SECTION III. -
UTILITIES PLAN, WITH THE CHANGED NOTED BY COMMISSIONER KREGER.
COMMISSIONER TACHENY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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VIII. OPEN SPACES
The following change was noted:
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NO.6 - Change to read, "Monitor", rather than "Track and monitor"
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Bullet No. 1 - Change to read "Encourage the preservation of shorelands,
wetlands, and drainage ways." Bullet No.2 - change to read, "Encourage the
preservation of natural contours and soils, and preservation of natural
vegetation."
Commissioner Dillon questioned why there was no recommendation from staff on
this section. Steve Ach explained that staff was in agreement with the language
as presented.
COMMISSIONER DILLON MOVED THAT CONSIDERATION OF SECTION VII. - PARKS
AND OPEN SPACES, BE TABLED UNTIL THE MASTER PARK PLAN IS REVIEWED AT A
PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN SECONDED THE MOTION.
Commissioner Minton stated that he was in favor of the Planning Commission
taking action on the goals and policies at this time. He felt the Park and
Recreation Commission spent a great deal of time on these issues and would like
to affirm their recommendations and those of the Steering Committee.
THE MOTION FAILED 4-3.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SECTION VII. -
PARKS AND OPEN SPACES WITH THE CHANGES AS PROPOSED ABOVE, AND, THAT
THIS SECTION BE REVISED TO REFLECT ANY CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THE FUTURE
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PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DRAFT MASTER PARK PLAN. COMMISSIONER TACHENY
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-2.
VIII. TRANSPORTATION PLAN
Commissioner Kreger suggested that the section which discusses collector links be
removed from consideration of the Transportation Plan.
COMMISSIONER DILLON MOVED THAT CONSIDERATION OF SECTION VIII. -
TRANSPORTATION PLAN, BE TABLED UNTIL THE FUTURE PUBLIC HEARING IS HELD ON
THIS ISSUE, AND THAT WHEN THE COMPLETE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS FINALIZED
AND ADOPTED IT WILL BECOME PART OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-1.
IX. IMPLEMENTATION
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SECTION IX. -
IMPLEMENTATION, AND APPROVAL OF THE VARIOUS TABLES, FIGURES, TABLE OF
CONTENTS, APPENDIX, ETC. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE
MAP SECTIONS. COMMISSIONER MINTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
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URBAN SERVICE AREA MAP
The Planning Commission and staff discussed the Steering Committee
recommendation for the Urban Service Area map, as well as staff's
recommendation.
Commissioner Kreger expressed concern that some type of interim use be
allowed for development of property placed in the expanded urban service
area.
Commissioner Dillon stated he could see no need to extend the urban service
district.
Discussion followed regarding future expansion of the wastewater treatment
facility and the impact of extension of extending the urban service boundary.
Chair Kuester questioned whether a phasing plan was suggested by the Steering
Committee for extending sewer and water. Commissioner Minton stated that the
Steering Committee felt it was difficult to speculate a time frame, given all the
economic variables involved. He felt the Council will determine whether
extension of sewer and water will be strictly development-driven or whether
phasing will be implemented.
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Terry Maurer explained that if a request is made by a developer/landowner who
owns 35% of the proposed assessment area, the City Council may approve the
assessment by a majority vote. If the City Council initiates an assessment, it must
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be by a 4/5's vote of the Council to approve a project. Terry reviewed the
assessment process which was followed for the Western Area Improvements.
Terry also explained that the City Council is considering the extension of sewer
and water east along Highway 10, and discussions will likely continue after the
Comp Plan is adopted, depending on costs and need.
Steve Ach explained that following action on the urban service area, the land
use plan will be changed to reflect those changes. Later, rezoning will be
considered, and ultimately, public hearings would be held regarding the
assessments. Steve noted that it is necessary that the land use and zoning maps
be amended to be consistent with the urban service area.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION FOR EXTENSION OF THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY, WITH A
CONSIDERATION FOR SOME TYPE OF INTERIM MEASURE TO BE ADOPTED BY THE CITY
COUNCil AllOWING lANDOWNERS SOME TYPE OF OPTION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF
THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL SEWER AND WATER IS AVAilABLE. COMMISSIONER
THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-1.
LAND USE MAP
Steve Ach explained staff's recommendations for the Land Use Map:
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Area 1 - East Highway 10 area recommended "Light Industrial" by the Steering
Committee
Area 2 - Change to MR to be consistent with the urban service area
just adopted by the Planning Commission
Area 3 - County Road 12 and 13 area remain residential, recommended for
either Business Park or Light Industrial
Area 4 - Area east of Highway 169 between 193rd and 197th be left as Steve
recommended a focus area study for this area to look at land use
and transportation issues.
The Planning Commission discussed the staff's recommendations, particularly
Area 4. Members expressed an interest to designate a land use for this area
which would permit a future PUD zoning designation.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND THE FOllOWING LAND USE
CHANGES:
AREA 2 - MR (MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL)
AREA 3 - LI (LIGHT INDUSTRIAL)
AREA 4 - HB/MEDIUM DENSITY
COMMISSIONER KREGER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-2.
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COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT AREA 1 HAVE A lAND USE
DESIGNATION OF lR (lOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL). COMMISSION THOMPSON
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED THAT THE MEETING BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER
27, 1995 (12:00 A.M.). COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND ACCEPTANCE OF THE
REMAINING CHANGES MADE ON THE LAND USE MAP AS SHOWN ON FIGURE 2-R.
COMMISSIONER TACHENY SECONDED THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER DILLON MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO EXCLUDE THE CITY
PROPERTY WEST OF HIGHWAY 169 FROM ACTION ON THE LAND USE MAP.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-3.
COMMISSIONER MINTON'S ORIGINAL MOTION REGARDING THE LAND USE MAP
PASSED 7-0.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REMAINING
EXHIBITS, AND, THAT THE ZONING MAP BE REVISED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
CHANGES MADE IN THE LAND USE MAP. COMMISSIONER KREGER SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-2.
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There being no further business, COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
The Special Meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at 12: 1 0 a.m.
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Debbie Kleckner
Planning Secretary
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