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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 27, 1994
Members Present:
Chair Tveite, Commissioners Eberley, Kreger, Kuester, Thompson,
Tacheny, and Minton
Members Absent:
None
Staff Present:
Steven B. Ach, City Planner; Gary Schmitz, Planning Assistant; Terry
Maurer. City Engineer; Debbie Kleckner, Recording Secretary
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Planning
Commission was called to order at 7 p.m. by Chair Tveite.
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The following items were added to the 12/27/94 agenda:
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Item 6.3. - Commissioner Eberley - "Pipe Dream to Reality"
Item 6.4. - Commissioner Minton - Tributes
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO APPROVE THE 12/27/94 PLANNING
COMMISSION AGENDA AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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Add Commissioner Kreger to "Members Present".
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO APPROVE THE 11/22/94 PLANNING
COMMISSIONER MINUTES AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER TACHENEY SECONDED
THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0-2. CHAIR TVEITE AND COMMISSIONER
EBERLEY ABSTAINED AS THEY DID NOT ATTEND THE 11/22/94 MEETING.
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Commissioner Kreger will attend the January 23,1995 City Council meeting.
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December 27, 1995
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Staff report by Gary Schmitz. The Chuba Company has requested approval for
the following:
A. Preliminary plat to subdivide 1.4 acres into 5 industrial lots
B. Conditional use permit for a zero lot line development
C. Variance to the minimum lot size in the 1-1 zoning district
The subject property is located at the corner of Vernon Street and Elk Lake Road.
The preliminary plat. Vernon Plaza, is a replat of Lot 2, Block 1, Meadowvale
Commercial Park. The conditional use permit for a zero lot line development
would allow ind!vidual ownership of five (5) parcels. A variance is needed
because the current minimum lot size is one (1) acre in the 11 zoning district (the
lots range in size from 4,000 square feet to 10,000 square feet). Staff recommends
approval of the requests based on the findings cited in staff's memo to the
Planning Commission dated December 27, 1994. Elk River Municipal Utilities has
requested that the common area of Lot 1, Block 1, be dedicated as a drainage
and utility easement.
Dennis Chuba, developer, requested that the drainage and utility easement be
recorded as a separate document, as the final plat has already been
completed.
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Chair Tveite opened the public hearing. There being no comments from the
public, Chair Tveite closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Kreger expressed his concern regarding the variance finding of a
hardship, stating that the property could be developed as proposed, except that
individual ownership of lots will be eliminated.
Gary Schmitz explained that there appears to be a problem with the ordinance,
in that zero lot line development is allowed, but a minimum lot size of one (1) acre
would restrict that type of development from occurring.
Discussion followed regarding the impact of the ordinance regarding zero lot line
development and minimum lot sizes in the City's zoning districts.
Commissioner Minton questioned whether or not the applicant would be willing
to wait the 60 days necessary for an ordinance amendment to allow smaller lot
sizes for zero lot line development. Mr. Chuba stated that he would like to begin
development as soon as possible.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BY THE
CHUBA COMPANY FOR A VARIANCE, PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. V 94-16, BASED
ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT:
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LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD CAUSE HARDSHIP TO THE
APPLICANT AS A RESULT OF A MISCOMMUNICATION OF THE INTENT OF THE
ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT, AND THAT THE INTENT OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IS TO MODIFY THE
ORDINANCE TO ALLOW SUCH DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FUTURE, THEREFORE,
MAKING THE REQUEST A LEGAL, CONFORMING REQUEST IN THE FUTURE.
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December 27, 1995
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LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD CAUSE HARDSHIP SINCE
THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE IS NOT TO MANDATE OWNERSHIP OF LAND
BUT TO DIRECT LAND USE.
3. REDUCING THE INDIVIDUAL LOT SIZE DOES NOT INCREASE THE DENSITY OF
THE DEVELOPMENT OR MODIFY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING.
4. THE VARIANCE WILL NOT BE INJURIOUS OR ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH,
SAFETY, OR WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED AND WILL BE KEEPING WITH THE SPIRIT
AND INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BY
THE CHUBA COMPANY FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR VERNON PLAZA,
PUBLIC HEARING, CASE NO. P 94-12, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO
NEGATIVE RESPONSE FROM THE PUBLIC, AND SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS:
1. ASSOCIATION DOCUMENTS FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING AND COMMON
SPACE BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND RECORDED WITH
SHERBURNE COUNTY.
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A SEPARATE DOCUMENT BE RECORDED WITH SHERBURNE COUNTY,
DEDICATING THE COMMON AREA OF LOT 1, BLOCK 1, VERNON PLAZA, FOR
DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT PURPOSES.
COMMISSIONER MINTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BY
THE CHUBA COMPANY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ZERO LOT LINE
DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE CRITERIA FOR GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:
1. ALL COMMON WALLS BE CONSTRUCTED TO MEET THE SEPARATION
REQUIREMENTS AS SET FORTH IN THE UNIFORM BUILDING CODE.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INITIATE
THE PROCESS TO AMEND THE CITY'S ORDINANCE TO MAKE EXCEPTION TO THE
MINIMUM LOT SIZES IN THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS TO
ALLOW ZERO LOT LINE DEVELOPMENT. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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December 27, 1995
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5.5. .... T6m&SardHartman/GuardianAngelsReauest for Land Use Amendment/PubliC
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Staff report by Steve Ach. Applicants are requesting; (a) a Comprehensive Land
Use Plan amendment, changing the land use from MR (Medium Density
Residential) to HB (Highway Business). and. (b) rezoning from R1c (Single Family
Residential and R2b (Two Family Residential). to C3 (Highway Commercial).
Property is located north of Highway 10 and west of the Joplin Street alignment.
Steve Ach reviewed background information regarding transportation routes for
development of the west Highway 10 area. signalization and frontage road
needs. He explained that the proposed frontage road alignment north of
Highway 10 at Joplin Street will create a 3-4 acre parcel between Highway 10
and the frontage road. The affected property owners in this area are requesting
a commercial land use and zoning designation. Steve noted that the precise
legal description of the area to be rezoned has not be determined because the
exact alignment of the frontage road has not been finalized.
Guardian Angels, property owner on the east. wishes to develop their vacant
property north of the frontage road as a medium density senior housing project.
Tom and Sara Hartman, property owners to the west, are considering single family
residential development of their property north of the proposed frontage road.
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Steve Ach stated that staff supports the applicants' requests and feels that the
commercial zoning district would make a good transition between the highway
and residential development. He noted that the ideal commercial zoning for this
area would be a neighborhood or community-type zoning. and may be a
recommendation of the Steering Committee. He cautioned that the C3 zoning
district currently is the most intense commercial district and allows a wide variety
of uses.
Carol Mills, representative of Guardian Angels, applicant, stated that Guardian
Angels Board of Directors was pleased to see the frontage road design. as it
would provide accessibility for their proposed senior assisted-living housing
project.
Tom Hartman, applicant, 18675 Macon Street, stated that he had no objection to
a future zone change to a neighborhood-type zoning. if the district is created.
Steve explained the proposed boundaries of the area to be rezoned.
Chair Tveite opened the public hearing. There being no comments from the
public, Chair Tveite closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Eberley expressed her approval of the frontage road and the
importance of providing interest in the physical appearance of the west Highway
10 corridor.
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Commissioner Kreger suggested that the Commission act only on the land use
amendment at this time. since the alignment has not been finalized.
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steve Ach questioned the applicants whether or not they would be able to wait
for a zone change. Carol Mills stated that sewer and water is coming into the
properties and they would like to proceed with their plans, as assessments will be
due.
Terry Maurer, City Engineer, explained that the two ends of the alignment are set,
since one end must line up with the Highway 10 intersection and the other with
the existing roadway. Also, he noted that the curves must meet minimum design
standards and would not allow for any significant deviation from the proposed
plan.
Discussion followed regarding development of the proposed C3 property and
potential uses. Steve Ach noted that the uses in a C3 zone that would be
considered incompatible with residential zoning are all conditional uses in a C3
zone. He felt there could be findings to restrict those incompatible uses next to
residential, or conditions to mitigate the impact of commercial.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE LAND USE
AMENDMENT REQUEST BY TOM & SARA HARTMAN, AND GUARDIAN ANGELS OF ELK
RIVER, INC. , FROM MR (MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL) TO HB (HIGHWAY BUSINESS).
COMMISSIONER KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION.
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Commissioner Eberley questioned whether or not other applicants have been
turn down or put on hold, pending Steering Committee action. Steve Ach stated
that a Highway 169 commercial proposal was discussed and referred to the
Steering Committee, but that issue required further study and discussion.
THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND TABLING THE ZONE CHANGE
REQUEST BY TOM & SARA HARTMAN, AND GUARDIAN ANGELS OF ELK RIVER, INC.,
FOR TWO MONTHS. COMMISSIONER MINTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
FAILED 3-3.1. CHAIR TVEITE, COMMISSIONERS EBERLEY AND KUESTER VOTED NAY.
COMMISSIONER TACHENY ABSTAINED.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONE
CHANGE REQUEST BY TOM & SARA HARTMAN, AND GUARDIAN ANGELS OF ELK
RIVER, INC., FROM R1 C (SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL) AND R2B (TWO FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL/MR (MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL) TO C3 (HIGHWAY BUSINESS),
CITING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION REGARDING THE NEED FOR
PROPER ATTENTION TO HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY, AND
APPROPRIATENESS TO THE AREA, AND POTENTIAL LAND USE CHANGES IN THE WEST
HIGHWAY 10 AREA OF THE COMMUNITY, AND BASED ON STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATIONS IN STAFF'S REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DATED
12/27/94. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY ADDED THAT IF A NEW ZONING DISTRICT IS
CREATED IN THE FUTURE AS A RESULT OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE'S
RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS PARCEL MAY BE A CANDIDATE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
TYPE COMMERCIAL ZONING. COMMISSIONER TACHENY SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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December 27, 1995
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COMMISSIONER KUESTER MOVED TO REQUEST THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO ACT ON
A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CREATION OF A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD
jCOMMUNITY-TYPE ZONING DISTRICT. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
Staff report by Gary Schmitz. Mr. Weicht is requesting a 5 foot side yard setback
vaiance for a 100' by 120' addition to the existing 166' by 120' Furniture and
Things warehouse, located at 17201 Ulysses Street. Enclosed warehousing is a
permitted use in this zoning district (11). In reviewing the site plan for the proposed
addition, staff discovered that the existing building had a 20 foot side yard
setback, rather than the required 25' setback. When the building was
constructed, staff inadvertently determined the south property line as the rear of
the property, due to the location of the existing cul-de-sac. Since Ulysses Street is
proposed to extend south in the future, the south property line should have been
determined as a side lot line. The applicant wishes to follow the same building
setback of 20 feet for the new addition. Staff feels that the 5 findings for granting
a variance can be met and recommends approval of the variance
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Gary Schmitz noted that staff is studying whether or not a 25 foot setback is
necessary in the industrial zoning districts, and may bring forth an ordinance
amendment requesting this change in the near future.
Chair Tveite opened the public hearing.
Harold Novotny, 9884 174th Avenue NW, property owner south of the subject
property, questioned what is being done about the water drainage problem.
Gary Schmitz e)'tplained the drainage plan that staff has discussed with the
developer. Mr. Novatny questioned how the property owner would be able to
back in his semi-trailer trucks if the wide drive were cut off.
Terry Maurer, City Engineer. stated that the developer has indicated that the
area in question is mainly used as a turn-around, but that if it is to be used as a
driveway, it will need to be made narrower and a culvert placed under it with a
swale on both sides. Gary Schmitz stated that this requirement will be part of the
site plan approval which must be met before a building permit will be issued.
Chair Tveite closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE
REQUESTED BY JOHN WEICHT AND ASSOC. AND THE FEE OWNER - LARRY HICKMAN,
PUBLIC HEARING, CASE NO. V 94-15, BASED ON THE INFORMATION IN STAFF'S
MEMO, INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS:
1. LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD CAUSE UNNECESSARY
HARDSHIP BY CREATING A NONCONFORMING SITUATION FOR THE EXISTING
BUILDING.
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THE VARIANCE IS NOT A CONSEQUENCE OF THE PETITIONER'S ACTION BUT
DUE TO AN OVERSIGHT BY CITY STAFF.
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GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL NOT BE INJURIOUS OR ADVERSELY AFFECT
THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ELK
RIVER, OR THE GENERAL AREA WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
4. GRANTING THE VARIANCE WOULD ALLOW FOR A CONSISTENT BUILDING
LOCATION ALONG THE ENTIRE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
COMMISSIONER TACHENY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
Staff report presented by Steven Ach. Kingman Building Company has requested
the following:
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Rezoning approximately 2 acres from R1c (Single Family Residential) to
PUD (Planned Unit Development).
Preliminary Plat to subdivide 15 acres into 64 twinhome lots and one lot
dedicated to common space.
A Conditional Use Permit for site plan review of a Planned Unit
Development.
Subject property is Outlot B of Country Crossing 2nd Addition (15 acres lying
southwest of the intersection of Joplin Street and 183rd Avenue).
Preliminary Plat
The proposed development includes 64 single-family twinhomes, with private
roads to be maintained by the homeowner's association. Elk River Utilities has
requested that the common area, Lot 65, have a drainage and utility easement
for locating and installing utilities throughout the development. The project will
have a density of 5.8 units per acre excluding the pond area, and 4.3 units per
acre including the pond. All units will have an attached 2-car garage, and will
have the option of adding a 2nd level and/or 3-4 season porch. Steve reviewed
the landscaping, parking, and roadway plans as shown in the drawings provided
by the developers.
Dave Kingman of Kingman Building Co., developer, highlighted information
provided in the application package. He explained the twinhome concept and
its appeal to the empty-nest buyer.
Jay Johnson of Country Ridge Partnership, developer, added that he feels the
project will complement the residential to the south, and also fit in with the
Business park and development to the north.
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Chair Tveite opened the public hearing. There being no comments from the
public, Chair Tveite closed the public hearing.
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Commissioner T acheny questioned who will enforce the "no parking" on the
private streets. Steve Ach stated that additional parking has been created in the
development for guest parking, but if parking becomes a problem, it will come
back to the City for enforcement.
Discussion followed regarding access for emergency vehicles. Terry Maurer
explained that even if a vehicle parked on one side of the street, there still would
be approximately 16 feet of width. He felt that in an emergency situation, a
vehicle could get through, even if it meant going up over a curb. Terry stated
that the major concern is that fire hydrants are accessible to hook up the hoses.
Steve Ach noted that the streets within the development would be named and
numbered according to the City's grid system.
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In response to discussion regarding the pond, Terry Maurer explained that the
MPCA standards state that there should be 4 feet of standing water, with the
bottom 2 feet for sediment to build up before the pond would need to be
cleaned out. He added that since the pond is located on Lot 65 which will be
covered with a drainage and utility easement, it will be part of the City's
drainage system and need to be cleaned out occasionally. However, the City
would not be responsible for mowing around the site. Terry Maurer further
explained that they have found that ponds with slopes of 4: 1 or flatter, a person
could get out of the pond; and that ponds with slopes steeper than 4: 1 would be
more difficult and therefore, should be fenced to keep people out.
Commissioner Kreger questioned who would maintain the driveways. Mr.
Kingman explained that driveway maintenance would be included in the
homeowners' association agreement.
Discussion followed regarding using the roadway for pedestrian traffic. It was the
consensus that the street design will discourage high speed traffic and make it
relatively safe for pedestrian use. Mr. Kingman explained that the trail system
follows Joplin north to Orono Parkway.
COMMISSIONER KREGER MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THE ZONE CHANGE FROM R1 C TO PUD, BY KINGMAN BUILDING CO,
PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. ZC 94-16, BASED ON THE APPLICATION BY KINGMAN
BUILDING CO., THE INFORMATION IN STAFF'S MEMO TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION DATED 12/27/94, INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS:
1. THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN
MAP.
2. THE REZONING IS A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING PUD
DESIGNATION IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH.
3. THE PUD ZONING FOR A TWINHOME PROJECT ALLOWSFOR A LOGICAL
TRANSITION IN LAND USE DENSITIES.
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THE REZONING WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY
PLAT REQUESTED BY KINGMAN BUILDING CO., PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. P 94-13,
TO SUBDIVIDE 15 ACRES, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. ALL COMMENTS STATED IN TERRY MAURER'S MEMO DATED 12/27/94.
2. THE PLAT CONSIST OF 62 TWINHOME LOTS AND ONE LOT DEDICATED TO
COMMON SPACE AND CONTROLLED BY THE HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION.
3. APPROPRIATE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS BE PROVIDED
THROUGHOUT THE PLAT AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND ELK
RIVER UTILITIES.
NECESSARY STREET LIGHTS AS DETERMINED BY ELK RIVER UTILITIES BE
INSTALLED AS PART OF THE PROJECTS UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
A SIDEWALK BE INSTALLED ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF 183RD AVE. FROM
JOPLIN TO SANDPIPER ESTATES.
A STORM SEWER IMPACT FEE IN THE AMOUNT OF $120.00 PER UNIT BE PAID
PRIOR TO RELEASING THE PLAT FOR RECORDING.
A WATER AVAILABILITY CHARGE IN THE AMOUNT OF $300.00 PER UNIT BE
PAID PRIOR TO RELEASING THE FINAL PLAT FOR RECORDING.
A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT BE PREPARED AND EXECUTED PRIOR TO
RELEASING THE FINAL PLAT FOR RECORDING.
ASSOCIATION DOCUMENTS TO SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW BY THE CITY
ATTORNEY PRIOR TO RELEASING THE PLAT FOR RECORDING.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW, REQUESTED BY KINGMAN
BUILDING CO., PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. CU 94-36, BASED ON THE INFORMATION
IN STAFF'S MEMO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DATED 12/27/94, AND THE FACT
THAT THERE WAS NO ADVERSE RESPONSE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING; WITH THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. A PUD AGREEMENT OUTLINING THE STANDARDS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BE
PREPARED AND EXECUTED PRIOR TO RECORDING THE PLAT.
2. ALL COMMENTS STATED THIS REPORT BE INCORPORATED AND MADE PART
OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
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3. ALL OF TERRY MAURER'S COMMENTS BE INCORPORATED AND MADE PART OF
THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
COMMISSIONER KUESTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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Commissioner Eberley expressed her appreciation to the developers for their
patience in the proposal process and her approval of the end result.
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Steve Ach reviewed the additions and deletions recently made in the draft
ordinance amendment.
Chair Tveite opened the public hearing for comments from the audience.
Members of the Planning Commission provided the following comments on the
parking ordinance:
Commissioner Kreqer
-Felt that the ordinance should be called "Parking and Loading"
-Suggested 9Y:z' width and minimum length of 22' for parking stalls
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-Paragraph 9 - feels that the requirement for paving all off-street parking areas
and off-street is unreasonably oppressive to major rural population; should be
limited to platted property and developments. Unfair to gravel and large farming
operations.
-Page 5. Dwellings; motel or hotel - felt that five spaces was inadequate if a hotel
were to have a party and/or conference rooms.
-Page 6. Public Buildings. suggested requiring 1 space for each four hundred sq.
ft. of floor area.
-Page 13. Overhead Doors; does not find them offensive and sees no need to
require them to be in back of building; should pay more attention to condition of
the doors.
-Page 15. Screening & Buffering Standards. limit this requirement to areas
adjacent to residential or exempt heavy industrial areas.
Commissioner T achenv
-Page 5. Lighting; asked clarification on "candles" standards; concerned that
parking areas be well-lighted for safety reasons.
-Overhead doors; less emphasis on not having them in front; are needed in some
types of businesses such as a tire store.
Commissioner Eberlev
-Required Number of On-Site Parking Spaces; tying number of spaces to number
of employees may be difficult to monitor-suggested using square footage.
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-Added her concern that parking areas be well-lighted.
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Commissioner Minton
-Page 2, Item 4, paragraph 2, leave in exception for zero lot line, replace "multi-
family" with "developments".
-Screening of overhead doors would be difficult to accomplish.
-Page 12, Table A, felt last line should be removed, last line could be "501 and
greater. "
-Page 5, Required Number of On-site Parking Spaces, needs to be studied further.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE
PARKING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, SECTION 900.24 -PARKING AND LOADING
REQUIREMENTS, CASE NO. OA 94-4, TO THE JANUARY 24, 1995 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING. COMMISSIONER TACHENY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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Steve Ach reviewed the 7 changes made in the Screen and Landscaping
ordinance amendment as follows:
Removed the definition of clear cutting (relates to Change #7-
preservation of woodlands)
Page 3, double frontage - taken out
Page 3, screening of mechanical equipment, added language to allow
painting if other methods of screening cannot be accomplished.
Words "completely screen" deleted.
Page 6, credit for oversize trees, took out exclusion of certain types of
trees.
6. Deleted performance guarantee section.
7. Added Preservation of Woodlands section.
The following comments were made by the Planning Commission members:
Commissioner Minton
-Page 3, section relating to screening of automobile headlights not in this draft;
would like to see included: "The light from automobile headlights and other
sources shall be screened whenever it may be directed into adjacent residential
windows. "
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- "All external loading and service areas" , previously had "except at access
points" not included in this draft, would like to see included.
-Page 4, Slopes adjacent to Pedestrian systems....., good addition.
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-Would like to keep the list of prohibited trees, feels that we need look at list.
-Page 7, regarding field inspections, use the word "may" instead of "shaW'.
-Performance Guarantee - why taken out. Steve explained that there was a
Council concern for adding an additional developer cost. Commissioner Minton
stated he was in favor of leaving it in unless there was some other means to
ensure that the improvements were made; enforcement issue.
Commissioner Kuester
-Feels very strongly that there needs to be a performance guarantee and if there
is not, the landscaping and screening ordinance can only be used as a guideline
because there would be no way to enforce it.
Chair Tveite
-Sees no need to require underground sprinkler systems.
Commissioner Eberlev
-Feels list of prohibited trees need to be looked at again.
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-Feels strongly about need for performance bond.
-Against deleting the definition of clear cutting and all other issues that relate to
the preservation of trees. Feels that what can be put into ordinance that speaks
to importance of maintaining what we have that contributes to the community's
character and appeal, we should seek to maintain and preserve. In favor of
terms like clear cutting so there is no question about what is or is not expected.
Problems in past relate to not being clear on what is expected; large, old trees
are cut down, replaced with poplar that only lasts 10 years. Need to demand
high quality and part of that is preservation. In favor of leaving terms in if they
strengthen the intent.
Commissioner T achenv
-In favor using diameter measurement for size of trees, rather than caliper.
-Page 3, opposed to option of painting mechanical roof components; feels that
developers would use that option rather than trying to screen since it would be
the easiest.
-Questioned the allowance to leave large unused open areas unscreened as
long as they are free of noxious weeds.
-In favor of method of enforcement such as the performance guarantee.
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Commissioner Thompson
~In agreement with comments of other commissioners.
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Commissioner Kreaer
-Clear cutting definition not an important issue.
-Performance guarantee not necessary.
-Agreed with Chair Tveite that underground sprinklers should not be required, and
felt that it would be more important to address the issue of having adequate top
soil.
-Page 4(B)(i); feels that existing development should be grandfathered in.
Against forcing people to change their existing landscaping plans in order to
meet the ordinance.
-Page 5(iii); divided by fifty (50) feet is more appropriate.
-Concern that government is getting too involved in personal lives, and some of
these issues cross over the line.
John Weicht, resident and local developer, expressed his concern regarding
screening of loading areas and overhead doors, and also screening of off-street
business parking areas to 80% opacity. Commissioner Minton stated that this is for
businesses adjacent to residential areas.
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Steve Ach stated that he would not be opposed to deleting the opacity
requirement and instead determine the necessary screening and/or landscaping
as part of the site plan review process.
John Weicht further stated that he IS In favor of painting of mechanical
equipment on buildings. Also, he suggested that the requirement for a
landscape architect not be required. The Planning Commission members
concurred that it would be acceptable to use the terms "qualified individual".
Mr. Weicht stated that he felt the responsibility for the quality of the landscaping
one year after developemnt should be placed on the owner of the property, and
not the contractor or the developer. Further. Mr. Weicht expressed his concern
for the requirement to use balled and burlapped trees. He feels that a developer
is likely to put in more trees and shrubs than required if they are not forced to use
the most expensive type of plantings.
Jeff Gongoll, local developer and resident, stated that he did not feel clear
cutting is being done indiscriminately in the City of Elk River. He explained that as
a part of his development. they were required to do an EAW (Environmental
Assessment Worksheet) which required a tree preservation act. He stated that he
does not disagree with the concept of a performance guarantee, but feels that
the letter of credit which is already required is sufficient.
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Discussion followed regarding the performance guarantee requirement.
Commissioner Kuester expressed her concern that it is difficult and costly to force
compliance without some type of financial assurance. Chair Tveite summarized
that the Planning Commission's recommendation would be to require that some
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type of performance guarantee be in place to ensure that approved
landscaping plans are completed.
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Steve Ach submitted information that was gathered as a result of a Planning
Commission workshop discussion regarding conditional use permits for home
occupations.
Commissioner Kuester pointed out that at the State Planning Commission
workshop, they were informed that there is a new state regulation which allows
cities to include gun repairs and sales as a prohibited home occupation.
Commissioner Kuester stated that she felt the bottom line is to try to anticipate
which types of home occupations may be offensive so that ordinance restrictions
are in place.
Commissioner Minton stated that he felts this topic should be discussed further at
another Planning Commission workshop.
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Commissioner Eberley passed on information to the Planning Commission found in
a publication called "Urban Forests" which promotes tree preservation. She
stated that she read an article about getting things done and looking beyond
using traditional means. In the article, a 30-family community in Maryland put in
their own sanitary sewer and water using a $35,000 STEP grant and a $50,000 20-
year loan from the state, which they later forgave.
Commissioner Minton commended Chair Tveite for a job well done serving as the
Planning Commission Chair. He further recognized Commissioner Eberley for the
professionalism she has demonstrated in serving on the Elk River Planning
Commission.
Commissioner Eberley expressed her regret that Chair Tveite was leaving the
Commission and also, her appreciation to members of the Planning Commission
for volunteering their service.
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO ADJOURN THE
MEETING. COMMISSIONER TACHENY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at 10:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Debbie Kleckner
Planning Secretary