12-22-1992 PC MIN
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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 22, 1992
Members Present:
Chairman Nadeau, Commissioners Johnson, Minton, spotts,
and Tveite
Members Absent:
Commissioners Eberley and VanValkenburg
Staff Present:
Stephen Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator;
Janelle Schmitz, Zoning Assistant; Catherine Schmidt,
Recording Secretary
1. Call Meeting to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River
Planning Commission was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Nadeau.
2. Consider 12/22/92 Planning Commission Agenda
Commissioner spotts added Rules and Procedures under Item 9 (other
Business); Commissioner Johnson added City liability regarding wetland
issues
COMMISSIONER SPOTTS MOVED TO APPROVE THE 12/22/92 PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER MINTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
3.
Consider 11/24/92 Planning Commission Minutes
Commissioner Johnson stated as per
should be amended to include a
moving the driveway, if necessary.
page 2, Item 5, the stipulation
second stipulation: 2)The option of
COMMISSIONER SPOTTS MOVED TO APPROVE THE 11/24/92 PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER TVEITE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
4. Planning Commission Representative to Attend 1/25/93 City Council
Meeting
It was indicated that Commissioner Minton would attend the 1/25/93 City
Council meeting to be held at the Elk River Public Library.
5. Consider a preliminary plat and variance request by Richard Kincanon
and Dennis Chuba/Public Hearing
Stephen Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, explained that the
applicants, Richard Kincanon (13375 Joplin Street NW, Elk River) and
Dennis Chuba/Marilyn VanPatten (20455 Meadowvale Road, Elk River) are
requesting preliminary plat review and a variance on the maximum length
of a dead-end road.
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Mr. Rohlf requested Chairman Nadeau open the public hearing to allow
the public to comment on each issue as it is addressed. Chairman
Nadeau opened the public hearing.
Mr. Rohlf briefed the commission regarding the attached letter from
Terry Maurer, City engineer, regarding the lot sizes for lots 10, 12,
13, 19, and 20. Mr. Maurer's letter stated these lots may be deficient
in frontage width for R1d zoning, however, after discussion with Mr.
Maurer, Mr. Rolhf explained there was sufficient frontage for the
aforementioned lots.
staff stated corner lots are
direction. Some of the
requirement, however, the
adjust the footage.
required to have 100' of frontage each
corner lots in this plat do not meet that
developers indicated the surveyor could
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Alignment of Joplin street: Commissioner Johnson questioned why the
realignment of Joplin street is an issue attached to this plat
request. Stephen Rohlf explained the issue is raised at this time to
explore the possibility of realigning Joplin street to the east in
order to avoid the buildings on the Lakoduk property when the road is
extended. This option must be explored before lots are created in this
location as they would interfere with the realignment of Joplin. In
his memo, Mr. Maurer presented another access option: an off-set
intersection, however, Mr. Rohlf requested time to speak with Sue
Lakoduk regarding this option. Mr. Rohlf suggested the developers and
the City engineer meet with himself and Sue Lakoduk to discuss the
options.
Stephen Rohlf asked Mr. Kincanon if he had contacted Irvin
regarding the location of the hOlding/sedimentation pond.
confirmed negotiations had begun.
Moldenhaurer
Mr. Kincanon
Mr. Rohlf stated the City engineer will select the appropriate sewer
and water designs. Michael Hull, 13294 Riverview Drive NW, asked if
all the proposed lots would have City sewer and water. Mr. Rohlf
replied they would. Cindy Hull, 13294 Riverview Drive NW, questioned
Mr. Kincanon as to why he was developing. Ms. Hull continued with
questions relating to when the decision to install City services was
made, who made that decision, and why develop a plat on the south side
of County Road 30. Chairman Nadeau responded explaining the Planning
Commission responsibilities to Ms. Hull.
Mr. Rohlf continued, while Ms. Hull's questions were
were not pertinent to the issue. The Kincanon property
City urban service district since 1980, a decision that
the responsibility of the City Council.
important, they
had been in the
ultimately is
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Dennis Chuba, 20455 Meadowvale Road, briefed the commission regarding
the variance request. Mr. Chuba expressed his concern regarding 180th
Avenue as a through street and added concern for the safety of the
residents, if the cul-de-sac is removed making 180th a through street.
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In conclusion, stephen Rohlf commented on outlots: staff feels outlots
in general, are confusing to future planning. Regarding Outlot B:
staff would like to see the triangle removed, squaring lots 5 and 6.
There being no further comments from the public, Chairman Nadeau closed
the public hearing.
commissioner Johnson requested clarification of Item 6 (easement south
of Heritage Landing and north of Palmers 1st Addition) in Terry
Maurer's memo. Stephen Rohlf explained.
Commissioner Johnson addressed the commissioners regarding variances to
the length of dead-end roads. She recommended reviewing the City code
and possibly extending the length of a dead-end road.
COMMISSIONER TVEITE MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT
REQUEST "HERITAGE LANDING" BY RICHARD KINCANON AND DENNIS CHUBA, CASE
NUMBER P93-001, CITING STAFF'S MEMO DATED DECEMBER 16, 1992, SUBJECT TO
THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
1. CONTINGENT UPON OTHER APPROVALS BEING GRANTED: a) VARIANCE FOR
180th AVENUE; b) COUNTY ACCESS PERMIT FOR GARY STREET ENTERING
COUNTY ROAD 30; c) AN MPCA PERMIT FOR AN EXTENSION OF SEWER; d)
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH PERMIT FOR THE EXTENSION OF WATER.
2.
THE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED TO BE ACCEPTED BY THE CITY ARE SECURED
BY A LETTER OF CREDIT FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR 100% OF THEIR
ESTIMATED COST.
3. A DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT IS ENTERED INTO REFLECTING THE STIPULATIONS
OF APPROVAL OF THIS PLAT.
4. THE ESTIMATED COST INCURRED BY THE CITY FOR REVIEW OF THIS PLAT IS
REIMBURSED TO THE CITY PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL ACTING ON THE
FINAL PLAT.
5. THE ESTIMATED COSTS OF THE FIRST SEAL COATING OF THE ROADS WITHIN
THIS PLAT ARE PAID TO THE CITY BY THE DEVELOPER PRIOR TO RECORDING
THIS PLAT.
6. $400.00 PER LOT PARK DEDICATION FEES BE PAID TO THE CITY WITH
CREDIT BEING GIVEN TO LAND DEDICATED FOR PARK OR TRAIL PURPOSES,
IF DETERMINED APPROPRIATE BY THE CITY (PAID PRIOR TO RECORDING THE
PLAT) .
7. GLEN SUNDEEN, ELK RIVER MUNICIPAL UTILITIES, DETERMINES THE
APPROPRIATE LOCATION OF STREET LIGHTS WITHIN THE PLAT. FURTHER,
IT IS THE DEVELOPERS RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR THE LIGHTS AND
THEIR INSTALLATION, HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY
TO PAY FOR THE ELECTRICITY TO RUN THEM.
8.
LOT SIZES AND FRONTAGES ARE VERIFIED PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT APPROVAL.
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9.
THE LOCATION FOR THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF JOPLIN STREET IS RESOLVED
PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT APPROVAL.
10. THE FINAL DESIGN OF STREETS AND STORM DRAINAGE WITHIN THE PLAT ARE
APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
11. THE CITY ENGINEER DESIGNS THE SEWER AND WATER FOR THIS PLAT.
12. LOTS SITUATED ON CUL-DE-SACS WITHIN THE PLAT HAVE COMMON MAIL
BOXES.
13. AN APPROPRIATELY SIZED HOLDING POND PROTECTED BY A DRAINAGE
EASEMENT IN FAVOR OF THE CITY IS ESTABLISHED BY THE DEVELOPERS.
14. PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT APPROVAL, THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDE A DEVELOPMENT
PLAN ACCEPTABLE TO STAFF.
15. THE EASEMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS INCREASED TO 10
FEET PER THE CITY ENGINEER'S RECOMMENDATION.
16. THE CORNER LOTS IN THE R1-B ZONE MEET THE REQUIRED 100' FRONTAGE
EACH DIRECTION AS PER CITY ORDINANCE.
17. A TEMPORARY TURN-AROUND BE ESTABLISHED ON 180TH AVENUE NW (EAST
SIDE OF THE PLAT).
18. OUTLOT A BE REMOVED AND MADE PART A LOT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE
KINCANON HOMESTEAD.
COMMISSIONER MINTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
VARIANCE
This was discussed in conjunction with the Preliminary Plat for
Heritage Landing, Item 5.
Chairman Nadeau opened the public.
Dennis Chuba, 20455 Meadowvale Road, iterated his concern regarding the
safety issue if 180th is made a through street.
There being no further comments from the public, Chairman Nadeau closed
the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER TVEITE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST BY
RICHARD KINCANON AND DENNIS CHUBA TO ALLOW A 683 FOOT DEAD END ROAD
CITING STAFF'S MEMO DATED DECEMBER 16, 1992, CONTINGENT UPON PLAT
APPROVAL. THE MOTION WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SPOTTS. THE MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
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6. Consider Conditional Use Permit Request by Larry Leitschuh/Public
Hearing
Janelle Schmitz, Zoning Assistant, explained the applicant, Larry
Leitschuh, 9110-83rd Avenue N, Brooklyn Park, MN, is requesting a
conditional use permit to operate a health facility (aerobic studio) in
the Elk River Mall. The owner of the proposed facility is Janelle
Swanson of Monticello.
Ms. Schmitz continued: Janelle Swanson is interested in locating a
health facility in the Elk River Mall at 692 Freeport Avenue. The
facility would primarily be used for aerobic exercise classes.
According to the Elk River Plaza PUD agreement, commercial recreational
uses such as this are considered a conditional use, therefore, a
conditional use permit is required. The site plan shows a new sound
wall will be placed along the perimeter of the site. The proposed
hours of operation are 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Because the facility is
located within a shopping center, the parking requirement does not need
to be addressed with this request.
Staff is
operate a
following
proofed.
recommending approval of the
health facility in the Elk
stipulation be added to
conditional use permit request to
River Mall and recommends the
this approval: The space be sound
Chairman Nadeau opened the public hearing.
There being no comments from the public, Chairman Nadeau closed the
public hearing.
Commissioner spotts questioned why the planning commission had to
review this request if staff could make the appropriate decision.
Janelle Schmitz informed the planning commission that due to the
conditional use status in this POD, planning commission action is
required. Further, staff plans to work with the City attorney and the
developer regarding this PUD in an effort to make it more flexible.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO OPERATE A HEALTH FACILITY (AEROBIC STUDIO) IN THE ELK RIVER
MALL, CASE NO. 92-026, CITING STAFF'S MEMO DATED DECEMBER 15, 1992,
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION:
1. THE SPACE BE SOUND PROOFED.
COMMISSIONER SPOTTS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
7. Consider A Conditional Use Permit Request by Steven Shoemaker/Public
Hearing
Commissioner spotts stated he is a property owner within the affected
area and would abstain from discussion and voting on this item due to
the perception of conflict of interest.
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Janelle Schmitz, Zoning Assistant, explained the applicant, Steven
Shoemaker, 11106-190th Avenue NW, is requesting a conditional use
permit to excavate roughly 31,250 cubic yards of black dirt from a Type
3 wetland to construct an open water pond for wildlife viewing.
The Soil and Water Conservation District, the Board of Water and Soil
Resources, and the Army Corps of Engineers reviewed this request and
reported no problems with the request. Although the proposal will not
affect any public water wetlands and approval of the DNR is not
required, Dale Homuth, DNR Area Hydrologist, commented that the
proposed alteration should not be viewed as a wildlife habitat
improvement and suggested modifications.
Ms. Schmitz expressed staff's concerns with the amount of traffic
generated with this proposal. considering the amount of fill being
removed, the truck traffic in a residential neighborhood would be
extensive. The applicant is researching alternative routes. Ms.
Schmitz reminded the planning commission of Terry Maurer's letter
suggesting the streets be inspected before beginning the proposed
project. Staff believes the traffic issue and related road condition
issues are the primary concerns with this request.
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Ed Stoutenburg, 19032 Yale Circle NW, asked if the pond would alter
current drainage patterns. Ms. Schmitz responded as per the City
engineer, it will not improve drainage in the area however, it should
not have a detrimental affect either.
Ms. Schmitz indicated staff is recommending denial of the request for a
conditional use permit to excavate 31,250 cubic yards of black dirt in
a Type 3 wetland. Further, staff feels this request does not meet the
seven standards for a conditional use permit. Ms. Schmitz stated staff
is particularly concerned with the traffic generated by the proposed
use and the affect the use would have on the residential area. If the
applicant were to find an alternative route for trucks to use and the
plan was altered to comply with the DNR recommendations, staff would be
more supportive of the request.
Chairman Nadeau opened the public hearing.
Stephen Hartman, 19075 Xavier Street NW, asked if this pond would
affect the normal drainage flow in the area when it is constructed and
several years from now. Further, can a drainage study be done to
eliminate concerns of this nature. Stephen Rohlf explained the current
drainage pattern of the area and replied the City engineer and the Soil
and Water Conservation District did not have any particular concerns
regarding drainage patterns. Ms. Schmitz recommended the planning
commission and the City require soil boring tests prior to the proposed
excavation. In conclusion, Mr. Hartman stated his concern regarding
the traffic in his neighborhood and that he is against the proposed
wetland excavation.
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After extensive discussion and given the complexity of the proposed
excavation, the planning commission recommended continuing this item
until questions can be resolved and presented more clearly. Ms.
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Schmitz recommended Steven Shoemaker return to the commission with a
new site plan with several issues resolved (truck access/alternative
routes, design, and amount of fill being removed). Ms. Schmitz also
requested the applicant show the gas lines on the revised site plan.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST BY STEVEN SHOEMAKER, CASE NO. CU 92-025,
TO THE JANUARY 26, 1993, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO BE HELD AT THE
ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY. COMMISSIONER TVEITE SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
8. Farmers Market/Bill Kennedy (Informational Item)
Janelle Schmitz, Zoning Assistant, briefed the planning commission
regarding a proposed Farmers Market by Bill Kennedy. The Farmers
Market has been approved as a non-profit organization. The Kennedy's
hope to begin operating on May 1, 1993 and remain open through the end
of October. Two sites have been tentatively chosen from which to
operate the Farmers Market: the downtown parking lot behind Johnson's
Department Store and the Cenex location on Highway 10 and Hudson Street.
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The Cenex site is zoned C3 and allows produce markets, however, the
downtown site is zoned Cl and does not. Also, signage issues need to
be resolved: the Kennedy's indicated they wish to have a permanent sign
as well as a banner at each location which would remain throughout the
entire season. The Kennedy's also indicated they would like to have
several off-premise directional signs. Issues related to parking
should be addressed prior to the Farmers Market opening. More
information regarding the layout of the proposed Farmers Market is
needed.
It was the consensus of the planning commission that a Farmers Market
would be an appropriate use in the downtown area, and they would be
supportive of an ordinance amendment to allow such a use.
9. OTHER BUSINESS
Commissioner spotts reported the City Council requested a joint City
Council and Planning Commission meeting, possibly in February, 1993.
Commissioner Johnson requested staff
wetlands and ponds in residential
commission.
review
areas
City
and
liability regarding
report back to the
Commissioner spotts indicated he would not be attending the Annual
Meeting in January, 1993.
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stephen Rohlf informed the planning commission of a recent letter from
Elk River Associates regarding a meeting January 7, 1993. The meeting
will be a public meeting presenting the project to the public and
receiving input from concerned parties. The location of the meeting
will be published in the local newspaper. A copy of the letter was
given to each planning commissioner.
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10. Adjournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED
THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER MINTON SECONDED THE MOTION.
CARRIED 5-0.
TO ADJOURN
THE MOTION
The meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at approximately
10:30 p.m.
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Catherine M. Schmidt
Recording Secretary