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MINUTES OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
TUESDAY, MARCH 27, 1990
Members Present:
Chairman Kimball, Commissioners Johnson, Eberley,
Schroeder, Morton and Nadeau
Members Absent:
Commissioner Fuchs
Staff Present:
Stephen Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator;
Tim Keane, City Attorney; Janelle Szklarski, Zoning
Assistant
1. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof; the meeting of the Elk River
Planning Commission was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman
Kimball.
2. Consider 3/27/90 Plannin~ Commission A~enda
Chairman Kimball requested that items 3.5 - Commissioners to attend
Ci ty Council meeting on 4/16/90, and 18.5 - Informational items for
staff, be added to the agenda
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO APPROVE THE 3/27/90 PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA AS AMENDED. COMMISSION JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0.
3.
Consider 2/20/90 Plannin~ Commission Minutes
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO APPROVE THE 2/20/90 PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES. COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED
6-0.
3.5
It was indicated that Commissioner Eberley and Nadeau would attend the
City Council meeting on April 16, 1990.
4.
Interpretation/Will Alterations to Landscapin~ Tri~~er a Condi tiond
Use Permit by Elk River Ford
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, explained that Mr.
Powell recently purchased Country Chrysler which is located adjacent to
Highway 10 south of Highway 169. He indicated that Mr. Powell is
planning some alterations to the landscaping on the site (which
currently does not exist). This would include some plantings along the
service road adjacent to Highway 10 and would help define the site
entrances and exits. These changes would improve the site visually and
for safety reasons. Steve indicated that car sales in a C-3 zone are a
conditional use but staff does not feel that these alterations
intensify the use, therefore, the landscaping does not necessitate a
review of a conditional use permit. After discussion of this issue, the
Planning Commission was in agreement with staff.
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Interpretation/Which Zone does a Parcel Fall in/by Joe Barsody
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Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, introduced the location
of the property to the Commission. He stated that Joe Barsody's
property is located at 503 Jackson Avenue (which is the site of the
Cloverleaf building). Staff is asking for an interpretation of whether
Mr. Barsody's property falls within the C-l commercial or C-2
commercial zone because the line on the zoning map is so wide it covers
most of the parcel.
Chairman Kimball asked for any concerns regarding this interpretation.
He stated that the Commission could go with either a conservative or
liberal interpretation. After discussion of this issue, it was the
consensus of the Planning Commission to go with the more conservative
interpretation (C-2 zoning classification).
6. Conditional Use Permit Reauest/A~ricultural Use/by Mark Martin/P.H.
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator; indicated that Mr.
Martin is requesting a conditional use permit to build an agricultural
building, 4,000 square feet in size, to accommodate up to four horses
and a proposed riding stable. Mr. Rohlf indicated that he had received
a letter from Lynn and Tom Lane. Their main concern with this proposal
is that the building be used strictly for agricultural purposes. The
letter was received and entered into public record.
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At this time Mark Martin showed an aerial photo of his property. Mr.
Martin indicated that he bought the property contingent upon his being
allowed to put up an agricultural building. Since that time, the
ordinance has changed, and now a conditional use permit is required.
Mr. Martin indicated that he had contacted all of his neighbors and
that no one had any major concerns with the request. Mr. Martin further
felt they met the seven standards for a conditional use permit
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing.
Steve & Bev Taylor - 10975 205th Avenue indicated they had a number of
concerns: 1) that the building be used strictly for agricultural
purposes 2) will the size of the building affect taxes in the area 3)
if the property was sold, would the building remain for agricultural
use only or would that be subject to change with a new owner? Mr.
Rohlf addressed their concerns by indicating that the building has to
be used for agricultural purposes. This runs with the land, not the
owner.
Jean Schmidt - 11024 207th Ave. questioned where the barn would be
located on the property. Ms. Schmidt indicated they would not be
opposed to the request.
Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
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Discussion was held regarding the number of horses permitted, arena
space, and fencing. Staff suggested limiting the number of horses to
four.
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COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST BY MARK MARTIN FOR AN AGRICULTURAL
STRUCTURE BASED UPON THE FINDINGS OF FACT AS OUTLINED IN STAFF'S MEMO
DATED 3/18/90 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THAT MR. MARTIN'S BUILDING IS OF THE DESIGN AND COLORS AS PROPOSED
IN HIS APPLICATION.
2. THAT PROPER FENCING BE MAINTAINED TO ASSURE CONTAINMENT OF THIS
HORSES.
3. THAT MR. MARTIN MUST KEEP THIS USE CLEAN TO AVOID ODOR AND DUST
AND FURTHER THAT IF THIS CONDITION IS NOT MET IT COULD RESULT IN
REVOCATION OF THIS PERMIT.
4. THAT ALL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR FENCING AND. BUILDING BE MET.
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5. THAT THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REVIEWED IN TWO YEARS.
6. THAT THE AGRICULTURAL BUILDING BE LIMITED TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET
MAXIMUM.
7. THAT THERE BE A MAXIMUM OF FOUR HORSES.
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COMMISSIONER SCHROEDER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
7.
VariancelIncrease Size of Permanent Subdivision Identification SiJi(n/by
Terry Lee DouJi(las/P.H.
Terry Lee Douglas indicated they were withdrawing their request for a
variance on a permanent area identification sign, but was requesting an
extension to the temporary subdivision sign to help sell the lots in
the plat. Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, explained
that Mr. Douglas concedes he does not meet the five standards for the
variance. Therefore he is asking for an extension until the review of
the sign ordinance, in hopes that an extension mechanism will be added
to it. Tim Keane, City Attorney, suggested tabling this until after
approval of the sign ordinance.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU MOVED TO RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO TABLE
THIS ITEM. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0.
8. Zone ChanJi(e Reauest (R-3 to C-3) by Multiple Petitioners/P.H
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, indicated the property
owners of an entire block are petitioning for a zone change from R-3
Multifamily to C-3 Highway Commercial. Mr. Rohlf reviewed the location
of the property and its surrounding land uses.
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Dick Enstad of Barthel Realty explained his request, indicating that
there is a problem with developing this property as high density
residential because of its location adjacent to the railroad tracks.
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Mr. Enstad felt that the land use map was in error, as this was looked
at as commercial, but not added as commercial.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing.
Mary Jo Nelson indicated she was concerned with what kind of businesses
would be allowed if this parcel would be approved for commercial.
Commissioner Nadeau reviewed the principle and conditional uses that
would be allowed in a C-3 zone.
All seven of the property owners who petitioned for the zone change
request were present for this issue.
Warren Hudson - 1154 6th Street questioned the uses permitted in a R-3
zone. Commission Nadeau reviewed these uses.
Barb Marcia - 1234 6th Street indicated that she was concerned with her
taxes being raised and how the rezoning would affect them.
Al Osborn - 622 Proctor questioned who would be responsible for the
assessments if their property was to be sold.
Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
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Chairman Kimball reviewed Bill Weber's memo dated March 19, 1990
regarding his concerns and considerations to this request.
Tim Keane, City Attorney, suggested considering an alternative and more
comprehensive approach to the development of the site. Mr. Keane
further indicated there is a high likelihood that if this parcel was
rezoned without any further controls, you would see piece meal
development. Mr. Keane indicated that he would recommend a PUD as this
would assure some degree of control. Mr. Keane stated that the problem
with the mechanism of rezoning is that once a parcel is rezoned you are
basically giving your blessing to all the permitted uses that may be
developed individually and collectively.
Dick Enstad addressed the issue of the parcel being rezoned PUD. He
indicated it would be difficult to do a PUD when you have seven
different property owners because everyone has different ideas on what
they would want to see done with this property.
After discussing this issue, it was the consensus of the Planning
Commission that they were in agreement with the City Attorney. The best
way to properly develop this property would be a PUD so as to assure
some degree of control.
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COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST FROM R-3 TOWNHOUSE/MULTIFAMILY TO C-3/HIGHWAY
COMMERCIAL BASED ON THE FINDINGS AS OUTLINED IN BILL WEBER'S MEMO DATED
3/19/90. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED
6-0.
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Commissioner Schroeder stated that there were two large parcels of
property in the City that were put in a one year moratorium because of
piece meal development. This is not just a concern of the petitioners'
property but has happened a lot in the City. The City would like to
stop this piece meal development from happening by developing an
overall plan for the area.
It was the general consensus of the Commission that this was not a
negative vote against commercial, but rather a concern for the
development needs of this property to be addressed up front.
A short recess was taken at this time.
9. Si~na~e ReQuests in Barrin~ton Place PUD/by Linda Norha
Gary Santwire spoke on behalf of Linda Norha. Mr. Santwire indicated
he is requesting that the Planning Commission review three pylon signs
to be erected in three separate locations: 592 Dodge Avenue, 710 Dodge
Avenue, and 564 Dodge Avenue. Mr. Santwire withdrew the part of his
request regarding the review of signage in general in Barrington Place
PUD.
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Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, indicated that the
three signs proposed would each be approximately the same size (8' x 8'
and 20 feet high) and would have double pylons holding them up. Staff
pointed out the location of the three signs.
Staff's major concern was with being able to see underneath the signs,
although the 12 ft. of clearance alleviates most of their concerns.
Staff was still concerned with having two pylons, which could impair
the vision of traffic. Mr. Santwire indicated he would like to leave
the safety factor strictly to staff's discretion. At the time the signs
are constructed, they could be looked at on site. If staff is convinced
that there is a vision problem with the two pylons, Mr. Santwire would
agree to use only one. If staff finds that there isn't a problem, he
would like the option to use two pylons. Mr. Santwire indicated that
the cost factor is much more for a single pylon sign.
Chairman Kimball indicated that Mr. Santwire should have a sign made
that will fit on two pylons. If the sign is not approved by the City,
it should be reduced to one pylon.
Discussion on the signage took place regarding copy and color. Staff
indicated that if the signage was a vision problem it would have to be
removed.
Commissioner Johnson questioned if it was advisable to allow the
signage at all if it was causing this much concern, and since we do not
have any concrete answers for safety. Mr. Santwire indicated that he
felt there wasn't any evidence that they do have safety problems.
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Steve Rohlf suggested a compromise for the current situation would be
to put up a dummy sign. Then staff could review to see if the concerns
were legitimate. The dummy sign would have approximately the same size
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pylons, the same distance apart. in the same location. Mr. Rohlf
indicated the three signs being requested are on-premise free standing
signs.
Paul Bell (owner of Sneaky Petes) indicated that all businesses in Elk
River do not have the same color signs and have different logos. No one
wants a sign to look like the sign next door. Mr. Bell indicated the
object of a sign is too advertise a business. Mr. Bell felt the
Planning Commission was being unrealistic regarding the color of signs.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU MOVED TO APPROVE SIGNAGE LOCATED AT 592 DODGE
AVENUE, 564 DODGE AVENUE. AND 710 DODGE AVENUE WITH THE CONDITION THAT
STAFF APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE A DOUBLE OR SINGLE PYLON FOR SAFETY
REASONS. COMMISSIONER SCHROEDER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0.
Staff asked for an interpretation on Mr. Santwire's request for overall
signage in Barrington Place PUD. Staff suggested that if a business
changed hands it would not have to come back to the Planning Commission
as long as it complied with the conditions placed on the original sign
and only the wording has changed. The Planning Commission was in
agreement as long as the new sign stayed reasonably consistent with
what was previously approved.
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10. Variance Request/Reduction of Minimum Sin~le Family Lot Size and Width
by R.E.P. LTD/P. H.
Chairman Kimball read the 5 standards for granting a variance. Steve
Rohlf. Building and Zoning Administrator. indicated the applicant is
requesting a variance to reduce the minimum lot size and width for the
version of the preliminary plat of Auburn Commons which would
accommodate 7 single family homes. He indicated that all 7 lots fall
short of our minimum lot size standard of 10,000 square feet. Staff is
recommending denial as the request does not meet the standards for a
variance. Mr. Rohlf indicated that the parcel of property involved is
a flat empty parcel with nothing peculiar about it that would warrant a
variance.
Gary Santwire indicated because single family is allowed under the R-2b
zone, and a twin home can be put on a 36 ft. wide lot, it would seem
unnecessary to enforce an 80 ft. wide lot to put one home on. Doing so
would constitute an unnecessary, unavoidable and extreme hardship.
Chairman Kimball felt this did not speak to the uniqueness of the
situation for granting a variance.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing.
Carl Miller - 708 Auburn Place felt too much was being built in such a
small area without any outlets.
Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
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COMMISSIONER SCHROEDER MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
THE REQUEST BY R.E.P. LTD. BECAUSE THEY DO NOT MEET THE FIVE STANDARDS
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FOR GRANTING A VARIANCE. COMMISSIONER MORTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
11. Ordinance Amendment/Reduction of Minimum Size and Fronta/:te of Sinde
Family Lots in a Multifamily Zone by R.E.P. Ltd/P.H.
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, explained that what is
being requested is to reduce the minimum lot size and width for single
family lots within multifamily zones (R-2b, R3, R4) from a minimum
single family lot size of 10,000 square feet to 6,000 square feet, and
to reduce the minimum width of the those single family lots within the
single family zone from 80 feet wide to 60 feet wide. The reason for
the request is to fill a need for smaller single family lots to
accommodate starter homes.
Gary Santwire felt this requested lot size would &ccommodate just about
any type of housing. Mr. Santwire indicated if the housing is done
wrong it can be just as bad on an 80 ft. lot as on a 60 ft. lot, and
that this is a problem we cannot control. He indicated that this
amendment would apply only in zones where it would create less density
and more green space.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing. No one appeared for or
against the request. Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
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Chairman Kimball indicated he has taken a look at this issue City wide
and he did not like the impact it would have on the City. Chairman
Kimball indicated for this reason he would vote against this request.
Commission Nadeau was in agreement with Chairman Kimball.
COMMISSIONER KIMBALL MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
OF THE APPLICANTS REQUEST FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. COMMISSION
JOHNSON SECONDED THE REQUEST. THE REQUEST CARRIED 6-0.
12. Preliminary Plat/Auburn Commons/Sin/:tle Family Lots/by R.E.P. Ltd./P.H.
Gary Santwire requested that items 12 and 13 be heard separately.
Chairman Kimball requested an interpretation from Tim Keane, City
Attorney.
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Mr. Keane indicated that he had not encountered a request like this
before working on either the development side or the City staff side.
Mr. Keane indicated that he was not aware of any ordinance or statute
that specifically addresses the fact that you may consider only one
application for a development proposal for a parcel at a given time.
He felt that the Council cannot approve two preliminary plats for a
gi ven parcel, because preliminary plat approval at the council level
carries with it certain vested rights that are protected for a period
of a year. Mr. Keane recommended that the Planning Commission consider
one or both plats, but he will advise the council that they should act
on only one. Mr. Keane further recommended that the Planning
Commission should consider either implementing a policy or an ordinance
amendment to address this issue so that an applicant may have only one
development proposal for his property at a given time.
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Chairman Kimball felt the applicant should choose one or the other
proposal.
Gary Santwire indicated that when this comes before the council he will
be asking for approval on only one plat. Mr. Santwire indicated he was
asking for a recommendation on both these issues.
Tim Keane, City Attorney, stated that there was one more legal issue
that needs to be considered. He recommended that staff not accept an
application until it is 100% complete. An applicant is entitled to a
decision within 120 days after submission of a complete application.
If the applicant does not have an approval, denial, or approval wi th
conditions within 120 days, the applicant may request the City to issue
an order deeming it approved. Mr. Keane further indicated the
applicant is entitled to a decision because the City accepted his
application.
Commissioner Schroeder questioned Mr. Keane regarding the previous
variance request on the plat of 7 single family homes, on which the
Commission recommended denial. Commissioner Schroeder asked whether
this denial would make this plat void.
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Tim Keane indicated the Commission should stay consistent with its
action on this request. Therefore, he suggested that the Commission
should recommend denial on this subdivision application also.
Chairman Kimball indicated he was recommending denial for both of the
requests because of inadequate site plans. The City Planner's memo
stated that there is no drainage plan provided with this plat.
Chairman Kimball further indicated that the Commission had
insufficient information to review this plat.
Tim Keane indicated that he would recommend that the Commission take
action on both subdivision requests and handle them by opening the
public hearing.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing. No one appeared for or
against the request. Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER MORTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
THE REQUEST FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF AUBURN COMMONS FOR 7 SINGLE
FAMILY LOTS REFERENCING BILL WEBER'S MEMO DATED 3/21/90 AND BASED ON
THE ABSENCE OF A DRAINAGE PLAN AND ALSO UNDERSIZED LOTS. COMMISSIONER
JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
13. Preliminary Plat/Auburn Commons (10 Townhouse Lots)
Ltd./P.H.
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Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing. No one appeared for or
against the request. Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER MORTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
THE REQUEST FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF AUBURN COMMONS FOR 10 DUPLEX
LOTS REFERENCING BILL WEBER'S MEMO DATED 3/21/90 AND BASED ON THE
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ABSENCE OF A DRAINAGE PLAN. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
14. Site Plan Review/24 Unit Apartment on Lot 2 & 4. Block 4. Barrinj:{ton
Place PUD/by R.E.P. Ltd/P.H.
Steve Rohlf, Building & Zoning Administrator, explained the request
indicating the applicant is requesting site plan review to allow a 24
unit apartment building.
Chairman Kimball indicated that he agreed with Bill Weber that this
site plan is not adequate. Mr. Santwire indicated he was hesitant to
go through the expense of having detailed plans drawn up prior to
knowing how the proposal would be decided.
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, commented on the
maximum density of the proposal. Mr. Rohlf felt 24 units would not fit
on this site. He further indicated 22 units per acre would be
extremely dense. It was the general consensus of the Planning
Commission that they were also concerned with the maximum density for
the residential area.
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Mr. Santwire indicated that they could not be expected to supply
appropriate plans if we do not know the legal limi tat ion as far as
maximum density.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED DENIAL OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR A 24 UNIT
APARTMENT ON LOT 2 & 4, BLOCK 4, BARR I NGTON PLACE PUD BY R. E . P. L TD .
BECAUSE OF AN INCOMPLETE SITE PLAN. COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that she was extremely annoyed that Mr.
Santwire has been given this much time and resource from our City. She
recommended a "just say no policy" to this kind of request coming
before the Commission with incomplete plans. Commissioner Johnson felt
this was disrespectful to the Commission.
15. Variance ReQuest
Partnership/P.H.
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Darkenwald
Family
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, addressed this issue
indicating Darkenwald Family Partnership is requesting an 86 ft.
increase in the maximum size of a freestanding sign and a 21 ft.
increase on the maximum height allowed for signs in a C-3 zone. The
sign requested would be 150 sq. ft. in total size and 35 ft. high.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing.
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George Duvall of 17994 NW Union Street indicated he was representing
the Darkenwald Family Partnership request. Mr. Duvall addressed the 5
standards as stated in their memorandum submitted to staff. Mr. Duvall
felt that they met the 5 standards for a variance.
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Wally 0 Dell - felt because of the access onto both the private drive
and then back onto Main street in order to get proper circulation
creates a situation that puts this particular parcel in a hardship.
Steve Schiminski of Circle C Foods was not against the request but was
asking for the same consideration if this variance was granted for an
increase in his signage.
Carol Mills representing the board of the Guardian Angels was opposed
to the request. Ms. Mills indicated the good will with the Darkenwalds
has been destroyed with the removal of the trees on the west corner of
their property. Removing the buffer between the properties has created
a hardship for the residences. We feel that signage should not be
allowed beyond the current ordinance. Ms. Mills submitted a petition
from the residents opposing this request. Chairman Kimball requested
that this be submitted as part of the public recorq.
Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER MORTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
THE VARIANCE REQUEST BASED ON THE FAILURE TO MEET THE FIVE STANDARDS
FOR A VARIANCE. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0.
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16. Ordinance Amendment/Si~n Ordinance/by City of Elk River/P.H.
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, introduced this item.
Mr. Rohlf suggested freestanding signs in the C-3 zone and billboards
be addressed first, as most of the people present were here for this
part of the sign ordinance. Mr. Rohlf indicated he was convinced that
our current sign ordinance, which limits freestanding signage in the
C-3 zone to 20 ft. in height and 64 sq. ft. in size, was too
restrictive. This was discussed by staff and the Commission.
General comments were taken at this time.
John Darkenwald felt the sign ordinance was too restrictive to attract
national companies to Elk River. We are loosing our best prospects
because of the restrictive sign ordinance.
Paul Bell (Sneaky Petes) felt the sign ordinance was too restrictive.
He indicated we can not compare metropolitan areas with Elk River. Mr.
Bell indicated its important to stay competitive with neighboring
cities and allow businesses to advertise.
Charlie Houle (Houle Oil) indicated he understood the need to regulate
the sign ordinance, but felt other factors should be looked at, such as
the number of tenants on a premise.
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James Rogeness (JR Tech Automotive) agreed with Mr. Houle that the
number of tenants on a premise should be considered when reviewing this
sign ordinance.
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Rob VanValkenburg indicated he did some research of other cities
regarding their sign ordinances, and felt some consideration should be
given regarding front footage of lot, building size, and traffic speed.
Mike Majkrzak felt that frontage of property, size of building, and
scope of property should be taken into consideration.
Mike Leary indicated he would like to see highway traffic speed taken
into consideration. He felt it was important to get people to slow
down before they get to the exit.
Steve Linegar of AME Ready Mix indicated the sign ordinance was too
restrictive to fit their needs. He indicated he would like to see the
formal speed function considered when the sign ordinance is reviewed.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO RECOMMEND CONTINU~TION OF THE MEETING
PAST MIDNIGHT. COMMISSIONER MORTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0.
James Klenke (Franklin Outdoor Advertising) representing the outdoor
advertising industry, reviewed their proposal as submitted to staff
requesting three new amendments be added to the ordinance.
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Due to the lateness of the meeting it was decided by staff and the
Commission to table this issue until the following meeting.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU MOVED TO RECOMMEND TABLING THIS REQUEST UNTIL THE
FOLLOWING MEETING. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
17. Ordinance Amendment/Interim Use Ordinance/by City of Elk River/P.H.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing. No one appeared for or
against the request. Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
Because of the lateness of the meeting this item was tabled.
18. Ordinance Amendment/Landscape Ordinance (Section 900.24 & 900.30) by
the City of Elk River/P.H.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing. No one appeared for or
against the request. Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
Because of the lateness of the meeting this item was tabled.
18.5 Information Items for Staff
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Commissioner Morton reviewed the information items discussed at their
last work session: l)Requested that Tim Keane be present at all
regular Planning Commission meetings 2) Joint meeting workshop
scheduled for June 25, 1990. 3) Go over the list of ordinance changes
that was submitted in January by staff. 4) Plan to complete sign
ordinance and be ready to make motion at May 22, 1990 meeting 5)
Cluster home plan to work on at April 17, 1990 meeting. 6) Landscape
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Ordinance work on at April 17th meeting. 7) Metal skin buildings work
with and have ready in July. 8) Mini storage ready in June and review
in October. 9) Shade tree ordinance, staff indicated Gary Schmitz was
working. 10) Mobile work shop scheduled for May 15, 1990 and October
16, 1990.
19.
Adjournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO ADJOURN
THE 3/27/90 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED
THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Commission adjourned at approximately 12.35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Sharon Maue
Recording Secretary