06-26-1990 PC MIN
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MINUTES OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
TUESDAY, JUNE 26, 1990
Members Present:
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair), Commissioners
Fuchs, Nadeau and Eberley
Members Absent:
Commissioner Schroeder and Chairman Kimball
Staff Present:
Stephen Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator;
Janelle Szklarski, Zoning Assistant; Tim Keane,
Attorney; John Lichter, Environment Consultant;
Schmitz, Zoning Assistant
City
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1. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River
Planning Commission was called to order by Commissioner Johnson at 7:00
p.m.
2. Consider 6/26/90 Plannin~ Commission A~enda
Item 15.1 - Joint Meeting with City Council and Planning Commission and
Item 15.2 - "Update" were added to the agenda.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO APPROVE THE 6/26/90 PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER FUCHS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 4-0.
3.
Consider 5/22/90 Plannin~ Commission Minutes
The following changes were made to the Planning Commission minutes:
Page 7, second paragraph - change "Tim Keane" to read "Commissioner
Johnsontt. Page 10, Item 18, third paragraph, second to the last line
to read ttthe Citytt instead of ttthe Planning Commission".
COMMISSIONER EBERELY MOVED TO APPROVE THE 5/22/90 PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER FUCHS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
4. Consider 6/7/90 Plannin~ Commission Minutes
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO APPROVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
5. Plannin~ Commission ReDresentatives to Attend 7/16/90 City Council
Meetin~
It was indicated that Commissioners Nadeau and Eberley would attend the
July 16, 1990, City Council Meeting.
6.
Consider Ordinance Amendment Si~n Ordinance/City of Elk River/P.H.
Janelle Szklarski, Zoning Assistant, stated that attachment #1 is a
memo from Tim Keane, which outlines the legal options the City has
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regarding both the number of billboards and the size of billboards.
Ms. Szklarski reviewed staff's recommendations in regards to these
options.
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) opened the public hearing.
Richard Mlodzik of Skoglund Communications, Inc. stated that he
questioned the accuracy of some of Mr. Keane's statistics. Mr. Mlodzik
indicated that he has not run across a community that requires 3,000
foot spacing as indicated in Mr. Keane's memo. Mr. Mlodzik was also in
disagreement with Mr. Keane's statement regarding "monopoles". He was
not aware of any community that required a "monopole" pylon type
construction for billboards. Mr. Keane indicated that the typical
poster billboard is 250 sq. ft. Mr. Mlodzik questioned if Mr. Keane
was referring to the inside dimensions, not including the outer trim
and edge. Mr. Mlodzik stated that 300 ft. is the industry's standard
for billboard sign area.
Rob Vanvalkenburg was concerned with staff's recommendation of 2,000 ft
spacing between signs. Mr. Vanvalkenburg stated that he was opposed to
getting rid of all billboards as businesses cannot survive without
billboards.
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Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator indicated that the 2,000
ft. spacing is on the same side of the road. Mr. Rohlf stated that
this is the same as a 1,000 ft. spacing on both sides of the road. He
indicated that many communities have a 1,000 ft. spacing but it covers
both sides of the road.
James Kleinke of Franklin Outdoor Advertising Company stated that they
were requesting additional time to work with staff and the City
Attorney on this matter in order to provide the Planning and City
Council with a revised compromise. Mr. Kleinke then stated that this
was a very critical issue for the advertising industry. Steve Rohlf
suggested that the outdoor advertising companies would have time before
the next City Council meeting (July 16, 1990) to come up with a new
proposal regarding their concerns.
Keith Franklin, Franklin Outdoor Advertising, raised the question as to
how billboards were going to be eliminated. Mr. Rohlf answered that
the billboards would be thinned out as property develops. The larger
spacing does not eliminate any signs, as the existing signs are
grandfathered in. Mr. Franklin then stated that the state standard, is
300 ft. setback from an intersection. The Planning Commission was in
agreement with Mr. Franklin and suggested changing staff's
recommendation of 200 ft. setback from an intersection to 300 ft. to
comply with the state standards.
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) closed the public hearing.
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Discussion ensued regarding monopole type construction for billboards.
It was the general consensus of the Planning Commission that all future
advertising signs should have monopoles.
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COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE OUTDOOR ADVERTISING PORTION OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE; THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION CONCURS WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS STATED IN
THEIR MEMO DATED 6/21/90 EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING CHANGES:
1. ALL FUTURE ADVERTISING SIGNS COMPLY WITH THE MONOPOLE STRUCTURAL
STANDARDS.
2. STRUCTURAL STANDARDS TO INCLUDE A STATEMENT ABOUT LANDSCAPING TO
KEEP IT LOOKING TASTEFUL AND NEAT. THE WORDAGE TO BE PER CITY
STAFF.
3. THAT THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA FOR ADVERTISING SIGNS BE 300 FEET.
4. THAT THE INSPECTION FEE BE REVIEWED AND SET BY RESOLUTION OF THE
CITY COUNCIL ON A REGULAR PERIODIC BASIS. ALSO THAT THE
INSPECTION PROGRAM AND ITS EFFECTIVENESS AND NECESSITY BE REVIEWED
IN TWO YEARS.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
7. Consider Variance (Si~na~e) Snyder Auto Sales/P.H.
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Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) read the five standards for
granting a variance.
Janelle Szklarski, Zoning Assistant, reviewed the applicant's request
for a variance to increase the maximum amount of wall signage allowed
in a C-3 Highway Commerical zone from 100 sq. ft. to 228 sq. ft. She
indicated that the applicant is proposing two wall signs which measure
114 sq. ft. each. Ms. Szklarski stated that the petitioner erected the
wall signs without receiving a sign permit from the City.
Tim Snyder owner of Snyder Auto Sales indicated that he felt that he
had a hardship because his property is at a lower elevation than the
properties to the north and south. Mr. Snyder came forward and showed
pictures of his signage to show that he was approximately 8 feet below
grade from Elk River Ford. He indicated that he was not aware the sign
ordinance was recently up for discussion allowing him to put up a
larger freestanding sign. Mr. Snyder stated that it is not feasible for
him to enlarge his freestanding sign because of the expense.
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) closed the public hearing.
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Commissioner Johnson stated that economics alone is not an acceptable
standard for granting a variance. Commissioner Fuchs felt the Planning
Commission should stay consistent with the original sign ordinance.
Commissioner Nadeau stated that a variance is governed by State Statute
and the applicant does not meet the five standards for granting a
variance, therefore he would vote to deny the request.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
THE VARIANCE REQUEST REGARDING SIGNAGE BY SNYDER AUTO SALES AS IT DOES
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NOT MEET THE FIVE STANDARDS FOR GRANTING A VARIANCE.
FUCHS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
COMMISSIONER
8. Consider Ordinance Amendment (Schedule of Dimensional Re~ulations) by
the City of Elk River/P.H.
Janelle Szklarski stated that the City Council and the Planning
Commission directed staff to take a look at the Schedule of Dimensional
Regulations particularly in relation to the density in multifamily
zones. The two changes that staff is recommending throughout the
entire Schedule of Dimensional Regulations is to delete the building
density column and that the column for minimum open area be eliminated
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) opened the public hearing.
Tim Keane, City Attorney, arrived at this time (9:13 p.m.).
Ms. Szklarski reviewed the proposed changes, zone by zone, as stated in
her memo dated 6/18/90. The Planning Commission discussed the
ordinance and made a number of modifications to the Schedule of
Dimensional Regulations which are reflected in the current ordinance
that will be passed on to the Council.
Gary Santwire questioned the reason for the cluster zone not being
included in the Schedule of Dimensional Regulations. Steve Rohlf stated
that the cluster development proposed is to be done as a PUD.
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO AMEND SECTION 900.18 TITLED "SCHEDULE OF
DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS" AS PRESENTED BY STAFF IN THEIR MEMO DATED
6/18/90 WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES:
1. Eliminate Footnote #3.
2. Single family lots in the R-2b zone would be addressed with
footnote #2 so as to be consistent with the R-2a, R-3 and R-4
zones.
3. Footnote #8 was added - that the mInImUm lot size requirement be
reduced by 400 sq. ft. for each underground or tuck under garage
for multifamily units in the R-4 zone.
4. In the R-lb zone under Accessory Use Setbacks, the rear setback
was changed to 5 feet.
5. Under Accessory Use Setbacks add the R-lD zone; front setback 35
ft., side setback 5 ft., and rear setback 5 ft.
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Under Accessory Use Setbacks add the R-lE zone; front setback 35
ft., side setback 10 ft., and rear setback 10 ft.
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In the R-4 zone the Planning Commission went with Mr. Keane's
recommendation regarding minimum lot sizes.
8. In footnote #2, the side yard setback was changed to 10 feet for
multifamily lots.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
A short recess was taken at this time.
9.
Consider CUP
Services/P.H.
(Soil
Treatment
Center)
Conteck
Environmental
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator stated that the final
air emission permit from MPCA has been received. John Lichter indicated
that the only changes that have been made are in regards to the
equipment sizes. He stated that this does not change the overall
capacity of the plant but adds to the efficiency of the operation. Mr.
Lichter stated that the permit has been updated to reflect these
changes.
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) opened the public hearing. No one
appeared for or against the request. Commissioner Johnson closed the
public hearing.
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COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A SOIL TREATMENT CENTER BY CONTECK
ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES BASED UPON THE STIPULATIONS AS OUTLINED IN
STAFF'S MEMO DATED JUNE 14, 1990 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MPCA'S
FINAL PERMIT WILL BE SIGNED BEFORE ACTION IS TAKEN BY THE CITY
COUNCIL. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED
3-1.
Commissioner Johnson cast a negative vote as she was concerned with
the zero tolerance for chlorinated hydrocarbons, and she disagreed with
MPCA's standard set on particualte emissions.
Tim Keane suggested that Item 15 be moved ahead of Item 11 because of
lateness of the meeting.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU MOVED TO AMEND THE AGENDA.
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
COMMISSION EBERLEY
15.
Consider Moratorium on Adult Related Land Uses/City of Elk River/P.H.
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Tim Keane, City Attorney, stated that the City Council felt an urgency
on this issue due to the adult oriented book store located in Ramsey.
Mr. Keane indicated that October 1, 1990 was a targeted date for
lifting the moratorium and implementing a permanent ordinance
addressing the regulations of adult oriented land uses. At this time,
Mr. Keane introduced Larry Martin a clerk for Larkin, Hoffman who had
assisted Mr. Keane in researching the constitutional issues related to
the regulations of adult oriented land uses. Mr. Martin explained the
findings and issues that dealt with adult oriented land uses.
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Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) opened the public hearing on the
moratorium for adult related land uses. There being no one for or
against the matter, Commissioner Johnson closed the public hearing.
Steve Rohlf stated that the moratorium does not affect existing
businesses, only the new businesses.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE
CREATION OF A MORATORIUM ORDINANCE FOR ADULT ORIENTED LAND USES BASED
ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S STUDY REPORT ON
SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES IN COMMUNITIES. COMMISSIONER FUCHS
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
10. Consider Ordinance Amendment (Landscaoe Ordinance) by the City of Elk
River/P.H.
Gary Schmitz, Zoning Assistant, stated that staff has proposed several
changes to Section 900.30 "Regulations on Screening, Lighting, Storage,
and Outdoor Display". He stated that his memo dated June 21, 1990 gave
details on all major changes and additions along with the rationale for
these changes. Staff incorporated infol"mation from both the Planning
Commission's subcommittee report, and Planning Consultant, Bill Weber's
report.
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Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) opened the public hearing. There
being no one for or against the request, Commissioner Johnson closed
the public hearing.
The Planning Commission discussed this issue and made a number of
modifications to the draft landscape ordinance in Section 900.30
Regulations on Screening, Lighting, Storage, and Outdoor Display which
are reflected in the current ordinance that was passed on to the City
Council.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 900.30 TITLED "REGULATIONS ON SCREENING,
LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, STORAGE AND OUTDOOR DISPLAY" AS SUBMITTED BY
STAFF WITH THE FINDINGS THE COMMISSION MADE GIVING CREDIT FOR EXISTING
TREES. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED
4-0.
Gary Santwire requested that items 12 and 13 be moved ahead of item 11
as the majority of the people left were waiting for these two issues.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO AMEND THE AGENDA.
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU
12. Consider Ordinance Amendment (Reduce the Minimum Size Limit for PUD's)
City of Elk River/P.H.
. Janelle Szklarski, Zoning Assistant, introduced this item explaining
that staff is recommending to eliminate the mInImUm acreage
requirement to allow the Planning Commission and City Council more
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flexibili ty in the design and development of certain properties that
are very sensitive.
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) opened the public hearing. No one
appeared for or against the request, Commissioner Johnson closed the
public hearing.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AMENDING SECTION 900.12 (M) OF THE ELK RIVER
CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLED, "PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT" AS
SUBMITTED BY STAFF TO ELIMINATE THE MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT OF A PUD.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
13. Consider Advisory Comments (PUD Prooerty Behind City HalU/By R.E.P.
LTD/P.H.
Janelle Szklarski, Zoning Assistant, stated that Gary Santwire
representing R.E.P. Ltd. is requesting advisory comments for a PUD on
property east of City Hall. She indicated that the ordinance does
provide for advisory comments from the Planning Commission.
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Gary Santwire explained his reason for proposing this PUD is to
incorporate the north area with the south area and end up with one new
PUD. The City can then set rules and regulations which would eliminate
any existing conditions that exist on this PUD. Mr. Santwire gave a
brief summary of the items in his memo relating to the PUD.
Zoning Assistant, Janelle Szklarski, indicated that staff is requesting
that there be a stipulation regarding the pruning of oak trees from
April 1st thru July 1st as not to spread disease.
Commissioner Fuchs stated that he was not opposed to the PUD concept.
Commissioner Fuchs explained the area is currently an R-lc zone and by
making the lots smaller than R-lc standards is incompatible with the
preservation of trees and is not compatible with the surrounding land
uses. Commissioner Fuchs suggested 10,000 sq. ft. lots to the north
and 8,000 sq. ft. lots to the south.
Tim Keane, City Attorney, suggested that the Planning Commission step
back and take a good look at the land use compatibility and what really
works for a development pattern for that area. Mr. Keane further
stated that it is a bit uncommon to channel single family residential
traffic thru a fairly intensely developed, commerical area in order to
access the site.
The Planning Commission unanimously agreed with Mr. Keane that this
should be set aside for awhile to further study the land use and what
would work for a development pattern for this area.
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14. Consider Pylon Si~n Reauest/R.E.P.. Ltd.
Janelle Szklarski, Zoning Assistant, explained that a few months ago,
the applicant was before the Planning Commission with a similar
request. The applicant (represented by Gary Santwire) is requesting a
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review of three pylon signs to be erected in three separate locations.
Mr. Santwire has indicated the recent change in the sign ordinance,
which allows larger and higher freestanding signs in the Highway
Commerical zone is the reason for their request.
Gary Santwire indicated he was proposing a compromise; that signage at
592 dodge be approved as requested 220 sq. ft. and 40 ft. high; signage
at 710 Dodge be reduced to a maximum of 130 sq. ft and 26 ft. high.,
and 564 Dodge remain as previously approved 64 sq. ft and 20 ft. high.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING SIGNAGE: 564 DODGE,
64 SQ. FT. AND 20 FT. HIGH; 592 DODGE, 160 SQ. FT AND 30 FT. HIGH; AND
710 DODGE 120 SQ. FT. AND 30 FT. HIGH. COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED
THE MOTION." THE MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
11. Ordinance Amendment (Parkinlt and Loadinlt Reltulations by the Ci ty of
Elk River/P.H.
Steve Rohlf, B & Z Administrator reviewed this request indicating that
staff is proposing to amend two subsections of the ordinance that deal
with parking and loading regulations. He stated that these amendments
are in anticipation of the Council adopting Bill Weber's
recommendations on the four focus area studies.
Commissioner Johnson (Acting Chair) opened the public hearing. No one
appeared for or against the request, Commissioner Johnson closed the
public hearing.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 900.24 TITLED "PARKING AND LOADING
REGULATIONStl SUB 4-(YARDS) AND SUB (ll)d (LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING) AS
SUBMITTED BY STAFF. COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
15.1 Joint Meetinlt of the Planninlt Commission and City Council
The two dates suggested by the Commission for the joint meeting of the
Planning Commission and City Council were either August 18, 1990 or
September 8, 1990.
15. UDdate
Commissioner Eberley questioned whether staff has received any comments
from neighboring Planning Commissions and Townboards regarding the
tlPlan Share" Conference.
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Adjournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 4-0.
The meeting of the Elk River City Council adjourned at approximately 11: 50
p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
:iJl aA~9/rCr Yl)tZlLC"
Sharon Maue
Recording Secretary