10-24-1989 PC MIN
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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 1989
Members Present: Chairman Kimball, Commissioners Johnson, Eberley, Fuchs,
Schroeder and Nadeau
Members Absent: Commissioner Morton
Staff Present: Stephen Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator; Steven
Bjork, Zoning Assistant
1. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof; the meeting of the Elk River
Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman
Kimball.
2. Consider 9/26/89 Plannin~ Commission A~enda
Items 11.5 Rules and Procedures and 12.5 Discussion items were added
to the agenda.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO
COMMISSION AGENDA AS AMENDED.
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
APPROVE THE
COMMISSIONER
10/24/89 PLANNING
FUCHS SECONDED THE
3. Consider 9/26/89 Plannin~ Commission Minutes
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO APPROVE THE 9/26/89 PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED ,6-0.
4. Consider 10/17/89 Plannin~ Commission Workshop Minutes
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO APPROVE THE 10/17/89 WORKSHOP MINUTES.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0
5. Dolphin (CARWASH" Site Plan Review
Steve Rohlf, B & Z Administrator, summarized this request: that the
expansion consists of two separate additions for Lots 3, Block 1, Elk
River Plaza 3rd Addition. That the rooms would be used for cleaning
the interior of cars (detailing). An additional item should have been
added to the memo regarding the 6" water line running north and south
on the east property line of the site. This water line would have to
be moved to the side to be permitted. Mr.Rohlf indicated that this
issue will be addressed by the City Engineer prior to the City
Council meeting.
Parking was discussed and staff felt that parking stalls 1 and 2 were
not needed as this would limit the access to the dumpster.
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Dave Wolff indicated that they were requesting additional signage on
the north addition for advertising car detailing.
After discussing this issue, it was the concern of the Commission
that for safety reasons a sidewalk through to Evans Avenue behind the
carwas was to be added connecting the general area of the nursing home
and the apartments to the mall area.
Dan Coburn representing CHW, properties was present indicating they
would like to make some arrangements with the abutting property
owners regarding the resloping of the property line across the south
side of the property as a result of soil corrections.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN FOR THE EXPANSION
OF THE DOLPHIN CARWASH WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THE LIGHTING FOR THE ADDITION BE AS PER CITY CODE.
2. THE OUTSIDE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING BE OF THE SAME DESIGN AS
THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
3. THAT THE PARKING STALLS BE YELLOW STRIPED.
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THAT THE EAST WALLS OF BOTH THESE ADDITIONS BE 1 HOUR FIRE WALL
AND NO OPENINGS OR AS PER BUILDING CODE.
5. THAT THE ADDITION WOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL OF THE
WATER MAIN ON THE EAST PROPERTY LINE BEING RELOCATED.
6. THAT PARKING STALLS 1 AND 2 BE ELIMINATED TO ACCOMMODATE TRASH
RECEPTACLES.
7. ADD AN ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK ON THE EAST OF THE CARWASH LOT
BETWEEN EVANS AVENUE AND THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE OF THE CAR
WASH. SIDEWALK ARRANGEMENTS TO BE PER CITY STAFF.
8. ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE REQUESTED (3 FT. BY 12 FT.) BE ACCORDING TO
THE SIGN ORDINANCE AND CITY STAFF'S APPROVAL.
9. THAT NO TREES BE WITHIN 20 FEET OF THEIR DRIVEWAY AND ACCESS
ROAD.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
After discussing the motion, the motion was amended to add an additional
condition.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION THAT THE OWNERS OF CHW
PROPERTIES AND DOLPHIN CARWASH NEGOTIATE SLOPING OF THE PROPERTY
LINE ACROSS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
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6.
Leo Glunz Conditional Use Permit to Allow a Metal Skin Structure in
Plat/Public Hearing
Steve Bjork, Zoning Assistant, indicated the applicant is requesting
a condi tional use permit for Lot 3, Block 1, Wilderness Acres to
allow the construction of a metal skin structure wi thin a platted
area. Mr. Bj'Q:tk further indicated that the ordinance requires the
metal skin structure be at least 300 ft. away from adjacent dwellings
or platted area.
The applicants stated that they were issued a building permit for the
metal skin structure and were under the impression that they could
have horses when they purchased the property. Mr. Glunz indicated
the horses would be removed from the property. Steve Rohlf, Building
and Zoning Administrator indicated that he viewed the metal skin
structure and the horses as one issue. Mr. Glunz stated he was not
requesting horses at this time, and that he was aware he would have
to go through another conditional use permit for the keeping of
horses if this request was granted.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing.
Two letters were submitted in opposition of the request from Glenn
and Colleen Sundeen of 20234 Vance Street and Peter Newland of 20140
Vance Street. Chairman Kimball requested that these be part of the
public record.
Tom Lind 11076 205th Avenue NW, felt this could be a hardship for the
applicants because of an error made by staff issuing the building
permit.
Bennitt Pittsley of 20309 Vance Street had no objections to the
request.
Dean Jonquist of 20464 Vance Street indicated he was not allowed to
put up a metal skin structure.
Thomas Lane of 11076 205th Avenue felt that the up keep of the
property is a vast improvement from the previous owner.
Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
Staff suggested tabling this issue so both issues could be addressed.
A brief discussion was held regarding this issue.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO RECOMMEND CONTINUING THIS ISSUE UNTIL
THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
The motion died for a lack of a second.
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COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO RErOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A METAL SKIN STRUCTURE BY MR. & MRS.
LEO GLUNZ BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT:
1. WILL NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
2. WILL IMPEDE THE NORMAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT
OF THE SURROUNDING VACANT PROPERTY.
3. WILL NOT COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S CODE
OF ORDINANCES.
COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-2.
Commissioner Schroeder and Eberley voted no.
7. Jim Amble Variance Request from Side Yard and River Setbacks to
Allow Accessory Structure/Public Hearin~
Steve Bj ark, . Zoning Assistant, stated that the applicant is
requesting a side yard variance and a setback variance from the river
in the R-la zone to accommodate a detached garage.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing. There being no one for or
against the matter, Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
The applicants were present to explain their request indicating that
to comply with the setbacks their garage would be in the front yard.
At this time, the applicants gave the reasons they felt they met the
standards for a variance request.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A 24 ft. by 24 ft. ACCESSORY BUILDING AS
LOCATED ON THE DRAWING SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANTS BASED UPON THE
FINDINGS OF FACT AS STATED BY THE APPLICANT:
1. THE SPRINKLE SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED PRESENTING A
HARDSHIP.
2. A NUMBER OF TREES WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED CREATING A HARDSHIP.
3. A NUMBER OF LANDSCAPING CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE CREATING
A HARDSHI P .
4. THE STRUCTURE WOULD NOT HAMPER THE VIEW FROM THE NEIGHBOR OR
THE RIVER (NOT INJURIOUS TO 0THERS.
5. THAT THE STRUCTURE WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD.
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SETBACK RULES WERE IMPOSED AFTER THE HOUSE WAS BUILT (NOT
CONSEQUENCE OF THEIR ACTION OR INACTION).
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
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8.
Cluster Development
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator reviewed the memo
submitted by William Weber from AICP, Consultant Planner. A brief
discussion was held on this subject. It was the consensus of the
Planning Commission that staff work with the planner to research this
issue to allow cluster multifamily within the current standard,
reviewing staff's memo of 9/26/89 and come back with an ordinance
amendment.
9. Impact Fees
The Planning Commission reviewed impact fees and it was the consensus
that the City Council should consider requiring impact fees for storm
sewers and roads based upon a development's access to roads requIrIng
improvement or upgrade to support additional traffic per staff's memos
of 8/16/89 and 9/26/89.
10.
MinLSt9r~
Steve Rohlf explained that Gene Schuldt requested the Council to
direct staff to review mini storage as a conditional use in
multifamily zones.
A test motion was taken at this time without preliminary discussion.
COMMISSIONER EBERLEY MOVED TO ALLOW MINI STORAGE AS A CONDITIONAL USE
IN MULTIFAMILY ZONES (R-3 AND R-4). THE MOTION CARRIED 4-2.
Commissioner Johnson voted against this motion as she felt mini
storage was not appropriate and not residential in nature.
Commissioner Johnson was opposed with setting performance standards
because of the conflict on what is acceptable. Commissioner Fuchs was
opposed also.
After lengthly discussion, it was the consensus of the Commission to
leave this issue as is for a year, then review and consider the use
of the performance standards.
11. Landscapin~ Ordinance
A Brief discussion was held on the landscape ordinance.
determined that additional information was required to
recommendation to the Council.
It was
make a
11.5 Rules and Procedures
General discussion was held regarding the proposed Rules and
Procedures for the Planning Commission.
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12.
Plannin~ Commission Representative to Attend Council Meetin~ on
November 20, 1989
Commissioner Eberley will attend the November 20, 1989 City Council
Meeting.
12.5 Discussion Items
Either landscaping ordinance or sign ordinance will be the topic for
next workshop session. Minutes were discussed and the Commission
would like these prepared in more brief, outline form in the future.
13. Adjournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SECONDED THE MOTION. The motion
carried 6-0.
Respectfully submitted,
SAMf;-lJmtt,uL;
Sharon Maue
Building & Zoning Secretary