11-28-1989 PC MIN
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MINUTES OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28,1989
Members Present:
Chairman Kimball, Commissioners Johnson, Eberley, Fuchs,
Schroeder, Morton and Nadeau
Members Absent:
None
Staff Present:
Pat Klaers, City Administrator; Steven Bjork,
Zoning Assistant; and Stephen Rohlf, Building
and Zoning Administrator
1. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof; the meeting of the Elk River
Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman
Kimball.
2. ~onsider 11/28/89 P~annin~ Commission A~enda
Item 12.5 - Landfill Update and Item 12.6 - Discussion of workshop
related items was added to the agenda.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO APPROVE THE 11/28/89 PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
Commissioner Schroeder and Commissioner Eberley arrived at this time.
3. Consider 10/24/89 Plannin~ CommissioQ Minutes
Commissioner Fuchs stated that Item 3, Page 1 "Motion Carried 6-0"
Page 2, second paragraph, the word "car" should be changed to read
carwash.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO
COMMISSION MINUTES AS AMENDED.
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
APPROVE THE 10/24/89 PLANNING
COMMISSIONER FUCHS SECONDED THE
5. Conditional Use ~er~it_R~uest (Expansion of Vehicle Sales) by Saxon
Motors/Public Hearin~
This item was moved ahead of item 4 as Gary Santwire had not arrived
for the zone change request.
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator, stated that Saxon
Motors is requesting a conditional use permit for an expansion to the
building they lease for their car sales operation located at 17038
Highway 10. At this time, staff addressed the seven standards for a
conditional use permit request.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing.
Scott Pesola who owns the property abutting Saxon Motors was
concerned with debris along the western boundary of Saxon's site.
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Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
The Planning Commission reviewed this request and felt that Saxon
Motors meets the seven standards for a conditional use permit request.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST BY SAXON MOTORS TO BUILD AN ADDITION TO THEIR EXISTING
BUILDING BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT THEY MEET THE SEVEN STANDARDS
FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
1. THAT SAXON IDENTIFIES 41 PARKING STALLS BY STRIPING THEM FOR
CUSTOMER AND EMPLOYEE PARKING INCLUDING THE REQUIRED HANDICAP
PARKING STALLS. THESE PARKING STALLS MUST BE KEPT FREE OF
VEHICLES FOR SALE. THE LOCATION OF THOSE STALLS BE APPROVED BY
STAFF.
2. THAT SAXON PROVIDE A SCREENED DUMPSTER AS SHOWN ON THE SITE
PLAN.
3. THAT THE DEBRIS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BE CLEANED
UP.
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IF A CROSSOVER BETWEEN THE TWO LANES OF HIGHWAY 10 IS PROVIDED
IN THE FUTURE ADJACENT TO 170TH, THAT SAXON MOTORS PROVIDE AN
ACCESS TO 170TH SO THEIR CUSTOMERS AND EMPLOYEES CAN UTILIZE
THAT CROSSOVER.
5. ELIMINATE THE PARKING OF VEHICLES ON THE GRASS AREA.
6. THAT EVERGREENS ARE PLANTED ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE TO HELP
SCREEN THE SAXON SITE FROM PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.
COMMISSIONER MORTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
4. Zon~~hJl.~ Re~st (Planned Uni t DevelQP.!!!ent_.--t9~-3/Hi~hwa.X
Commercial and R-2b/Townhouse/Multifamily Residential) by Faith
FeUQ!'!:!?D..!Q Chq.r_9.hL:e..!.1i!...
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator gave a brief history
on the zone change stating that the original zone change request by
Faith Fellowship was withdrawn. Mr. Rohlf explained the three
situations when approval of a zone change is appropriate.
Gary Santwire was present representing the petitioners. Mr. Santwire
presented a map showing the proposed split.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing.
The following people were present for this issue:
Carl Miller of 540 C Auburn Place was in disagreement with the east
100 ft. being zoned C-3 because of the traffic problems.
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Mrs. Carl Benson of 540 A Auburn Place was concerned with the access
onto Auburn and the additional traffic this would create.
Sydney Reed of 530 A Auburn Place questioned whether the C-3 zoning
would make the property compatible with adjacent property. Steve
Rohlf indicated that this zoning would be consistent with the uses
along Dodge Avenue.
Mrs. Allen Lilja of 536 C Auburn Place questioned the L shaped parcel
and the C-3 zoning classification.
After discussing this issue in great length, the general consensus of
the Planning Commission was that a residential buffer was needed
along Auburn Place. Discussion was held on the amount of land
needed for this buffer.
Discussion was held on the appropriate commercial zoning designation
for the remainder of the parcel. It was the consensus of the
Planning Commission that the C-3 zoning would be appropriate because
it would be an extension of the existing commercial land use along
Dodge Avenue.
Commissioner Fuchs suggested compromising with allowing 140 ft. along
the easement parallel to Auburn instead of 100 ft zoned R-2b.
Richard Dungan representing Faith Fellowship Church indicated that
they would be willing to amend their request of the east 100 ft. to
140 ft. of the affected property as long as this did not delay the
process.
Staff suggested that Faith Fellowship Church put their acceptance of
this compromise in writing.
COMMISSIONER MORTON MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL
OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST BY FAITH FELLOWSHIP FROM PUD TO C-3 AND
R-2B, THE EAST 140 FEET OF THE AFFECTED PROPERTY SHALL BE R-2B AND
THE BALANCE OF THE AFFECTED PROPERTY SHALL BE C-3. COMMISSIONER
SCHROEDER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-1.
The Planning Commission felt the zone change request was consistent
with the Comprehensive Plan and the existing uses in this area.
Commissioner Eberley disagreed with the C-3 zoning as she felt this
was not compatible with the recent mission statement that was created
for our land use plan.
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COQdi tioQ~~L Permi..L-E~quest to Amend Elk River Plaza PUD
A~r~ell!~nt to AUow gQI!tIl1erci~Recreational FacUitie~-1'..r.ipl~
IJ)'yest!llent
Steven Bjork, Zoning Assistant indicated that the proposed amendment
to the PUD Agreement would be to allow commercial recreational
facilities to be located on Parcel F (Lot 5, Block 1, Elk River
Plaza 2nd Addition.) Staff noted that the underlying land use for the
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Elk River Plaza PUD is C-3/Highway Commercial. The C-3 zone allows
commercial recreational facilities as conditional uses. Staff noted
that the original PUD Agreement allowed for only retail establishment
for Parcel F. Staff indicated that the City recently amended the PUD
Agreement for Parcel F to allow business and professional offices.
Staff noted that this use is not inconsistent for highway frontage
property. Staff noted that this request is only inconsistent with
the original Statement of Purpose for Parcel F. Staff also indicated
that a conditional use permit process was available to the owners of
property to allow for change.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL
OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE ELK RIVER PLAZA PUD AGREEMENT TO ALLOW
COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITY TO BE LOCATED ON PARCEL F, (LOT 5,
BLOCK 1 ELK RIVER PLAZA 2ND ADDITION) BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT
AS STATED IN STAFF'S MEMO OF 11/28/89. COMMISSIONER NADEAU SECONDED
THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-2.
Commissioner Eberley and & Morton voted against this request.
7.
Condi tional Use Permit Request to Allow a Commercial Recreational
Facility by Russell Johnson/Public Hearin~
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Steven Bjork, Zoning Assistant stated that the applicant is
requesting a conditional use permit to allow a commercial
recreational facility (billiards parlor, video games) to be located
within the Big Wheel building. Mr. Bjork reviewed staff's comments
relating to this request as outlined in his memo. Mr Bjork indicated
that he had contacted the police department regarding this type of
activity. Some of the issues the police were concerned with were
loi tering, on-site security, absence of cigarette vending machines,
and over all security of the site.
Chairman Kimball opened the public hearing. There being no one for or
against the matter, Chairman Kimball closed the public hearing.
Russ Johnson (the applicant) was present to address any possible
concerns the Commission may have. Mr. Johnson indicated that he was
in agreement with the stipulations as outlined in staff's memo except
for: hours of operation, responsible adult to supervise the
operation, and on site security guard. Mr. Johnson explained his
reasons for his concerns.
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Mr. Johnson did not want to be restricted in his hours of operation
because of the possibility of a senior league. Mr. Johnson indicated
that the hours of operation for school aged individuals would not
conflict with school hours. Mr. Johnson indicated that he does not
want to create an environment for kids to skip school etc. Mr.
Johnson indicated that he was concerned with the responsible adult
age being twenty-one. Mr. Johnson requested that he would like this
changed to 18 years of age as he was planning to employ college
students.
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Mr. Johnson felt that providing an on-site bonded security guard was
an unreasonable request as this would be too costly. Staff suggested
that if needed this would be at the discretion of the Police Chief.
Discussion was held regarding this issue, the commission had a number
of concerns; hours of operation, loitering, and problems with the
chosen location because of the nursing home. The Planning Commission
also requested contacting the Police Chief about lighting on the
outside of building as to prevent loitering.
Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator indicated that both
the mechanical amusement license and the pool hall require a license.
COMMISSIONER FUCHS MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY RUSS JOHNSON FOR A BILLIARDS PARLOR,
AND VIDEO GAMES TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE BIG WHEEL BUILDING. FINDINGS
OF FACT ARE BASED ON THE SEVEN STANDARDS OUTLINED IN STAFF'S MEMO
WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
1. POST THE CITY ORDINANCE REGARDING CURFEWS.
2. POST NO LOITERING SIGNS IN THE PARKING LOT.
3.
HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE PER THE CITY LICENSE AND STUDENTS
WILL BE ALLOWED WHEN SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION.
4. HIGH SCHOOL AND JR. HIGH SCHOOL INDIVIDUALS SHALL NOT BE
WITHIN THE OPERATION DURING NORMAL SCHOOL HOURS. (THIS
CONDITION SHALL BE ENFORCED DURING TIMES WHEN SCHOOL IS
IN SESSION.)
5. THE OPERATION SHALL BE SUPERVISED AT ALL TIMES BY A
RESPONSIBLE ADULT.
6. THE OPERATION SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE LICENSE
FOR BILLIARD HALLS AND MECHANICAL AMUSEMENTS DEVICES.
7. THE OPERATION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO AN ANNUAL REVIEW.
8. IN THE EVENT THERE IS A PERSON UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A
CHEMICAL SUBSTANCE IN OR AROUND THE PREMISES, THE RESPONSIBLE
PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATION SHALL CONTACT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
9. IN THE EVENT THAT SECURITY FOR THE SITE BECOMES A PROBLEM IN
THE DETERMINATION OF THE POLICE CHIEF, THE CITY SHALL REQUIRE
THE OPERATION TO PROVIDE AN ON-SITE SECURITY GUARD.
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THE OPERATION SHALL COMPLY WITH THE GOAL AND PURPOSE STATEMENT
AS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT:
GOAL: TO PROVIDE A HIGH QUALITY FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT
FOR CUSTOMERS IN THE AGE RANGE OF 15 TO 25.
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PURPOSE: TO FILL A COMMUNITY NEED FOR SUPERVISED ENTERTAINMENT
WITH A HEALTHY, SUBSTANCE FREE, SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
11. SALES OF CIGARETTES SHALL BE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE
COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
12. THE OPERATION SHALL TAKE ALL REASONABLE EFFORTS TO PREVENT
THE BILLIARDS HALL FROM BECOMING A PLACE WHERE INDIVIDUALS
LOITER.
13. ALL EMPLOYEES OF THE OPERATION SHALL BE MADE AWARE OF THE
CONDITIONS SET FORTH FOR THIS OPERATION.
14. THE OPERATION SHALL PROVIDE DAILY OUTDOOR CLEAN UP OF THE
AREA SURROUNDING THE BIG WHEEL BUILDING.
15. OUTSIDE LIGHTING AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
COMMISSIONER SCHROEDER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-2.
Commissioners Morton and Eberley voted against this request.
8. Ordinanc~ Amendment to Allow Carwashes in C-l/Central Business
District ~moco Inc./P.H.
Amoco requested that the proposed actions be tabled.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO TABLE THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, CARWASH
AND CONVENIENCE STORE UNTIL A LATER DATE. COMMISSIONER EBERLEY
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
9. Conditional Use Permit Request to Allow a Carwash in the C-l
pistrict.by Amocol~.H.
Amoco requested that the proposed action be tabled.
10. Condi tional Use Permit }teQuest to AlJ,9W a~onvenieJJc~_StQre in_ the
C-l District_bX-Amoco/P.H.
Amoco requested that the proposed action be tabled.
11. Date for Special Meetin~ in Dec~~ber or January, if needed.
A special meeting for the NSP/UPA issue would be held on January 9,
1990.
12. Piscyssio.!L.1JJ.pS:.9min~.Qnin~_ltemina~tc. )
Steve Rohlf suggested that the Commission contact staff wi thin the
next week to let staff know what seminar they would be attending.
12.5 Landfill Update
Steve Rohlf suggested that the Commission review the letter
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submitted by the Landfill to see if they needed clarification on
regarding this issue.
12.6
Discussion of Workshop Related Items
The Commission noted that they will be holding their annual workshop
meeting starting at 8:30 a.m. on January 13, 1990, at Pebble Creek in
Monticello. The topics of discussion would include: Landscape
Ordinance, Review of Past Year and Budget Discussion.
13. Plannin~ Commission Representative to Attend CouncU Meetin~ on
Dec~mb~r 4th and 18th Meetin~
It was indicated that Commissioner Nadeau would attend the December
4th meeting and Commission Johnson the December 18, 1989 meeting.
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There being no further business, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MOVED TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER MORTON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at approximately
11: 10 p.m.
Sh~~t7n{WD
Sharon Maue
Recording Secretary