10-05-1988 PC MIN
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MINUTES OF THE CONTINUED ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL
OCTOBER 5, 1988
Members Present:
Chairman Kropuenske, Commissioners Morton
Fuchs, Olsen, Schroeder, Kimball and Johnson
Members Absent:
None
Staff Present:
Stephen Rohlf, B & Z Administrator and Steven Bjork,
Zoning Assistant
1. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River
Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
Reconviened public hearing at 7:01 for CHW properties request for
multiple principle buildings.
Steve Rohlf, B & Z Administrator, gave a brief overview of the project.
Ron Johnson of
would overload
Main Street.
520 3rd Street stated he was concerned that the project
the schools and increase the traffic on Gates Avenue and
Blaze Kra1jic questioned the traffic count numbers. Also requested a
clarification of the project.
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Don Welter (CHW Properties) explained the concept of the project.
Steve Rohlf explained the proposed changes for the site:
Remove northern access onto Gates
Provide screening near A1 Hoppert's property
No parking will be allowed on Gates Avenue
Remove building No. 6
Install sidewalks along Gates and Evans
Move buildings No. 3 and No. 4 to the west
Provide berming along Gates Avenue
Provide screening along Evans Avenue
Steve Rohlf commented on statements from two individuals who could not
attend the meeting:
Bernice Pipenhagen stated that she was concerned with the speed on
Gates and she was opposed to a sidwa1k on her property.
A1 Hoppert stated that he was concerned about headlights shining on
his property and wanted to know what was going to be done about his
sheds on the proposed building etc.
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Ron Johnson questioned off street parking in the area.
Blaze Kraljic questioned police enforcement policy with regards to speed
on Gates. Steve Rohlf explained police policy on this matter.
Joe Crawford of 497 Gates Avenue stated he would rather not have the
project go in but he accepts the fact that something will be built on the
site. He also stated that he feels comfortable with the project and
commended the developer and the City.
Carol Mills, Guardian Angels stated that Guardian Angels are concerned
about headlights shining onto their property. She also commended the
developer and City.
Blaze Kraljic questioned who would pay for utility assessments, whether
the area was a DNR designated wetland, and why the area was zoned R-4 in
the first place.
Carol Mills stated that Guardian Angel are concerned about the storm
sewer situation on Evans.
Lisa Hudson stated that she has small children and is worried about the
traffic on Gates.
Jerry Schroeder stated he would like to see building No. 6 eliminated.
Chairman Kropuenske questioned whether or not building No. 6 could be
eliminated and replaced with a park.
Sid (CHW) explained the different possibilities for building No.6.
Joe Crawford questioned whether or not building No. 6 could be eliminated
and No. 5 and NO. 7 enlarged.
Blaze
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Kraljic stated that he does not want apartments to go in, he would
to see No. 6 eliminated, as he didn't like cedar siding, and he
have preferred it if the developers were from Elk River.
Pat questioned what kind of guarantee they would have of the quality of
the buildings.
There being no one else wanting to address this matter, the public
hearing was closed at 8:16 p.m.
Steve Rohlf, B & Z
galvanized roofs on the
discuss the matter with
Administrator, questioned the developers abou the
adjacent property. The developer stated he would
his partners.
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Commissioner Olsen stated the City must look at the future. He stated
he would not be in favor of seven buildings. He also felt the City had
islands of development.
Commissioner Kimball questioned island concept.
Commissioner Fuchs wanted a review of the stipulations.
Stephen Rohlf provided additional stipulations for the project.
Commissioner Kimball stated he doesn't like the project because of its
density and potential traffic problems. He also stated that the project
will probably go through.
Commissioner Johnson stated she had the same concerns.
Commissioner Morton stated he does not like the density.
Chairman Kropuenske
may be problems.
deny the project
building No.6.
stated he felt the project was too dense and there
He also stated that the Planning Commission can not
because they did not like it. He also questioned
There was general discussion concerning building No.6.
COMMISSIONER OLSEN MADE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST BASED ON DENSITY,
POTENTIAL TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. AND DECREASED PROPERTY VALUES. COMMISSIONER
KIMBALL SECONDED THE MOTION WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS.
A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL FELT THE AREA WAS BETTER SUITED FOR A PARK,
THE GENERAL DENSITY OF THE AREA. SOIL CONDITIONS, AND THE
TOPOGRAPHY.
COMMISSIONER OLSEN SECONDED THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. UPON
VOTE TAKEN THE MOTION WAS DENIED BY VOTE' OF 3-4.
UPON VOTE TAKEN ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION. IT WAS ALSO DENIED BY A VOTE OF 3-
4.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST CONTINGENT UPON
CONDITIONS 1-11 IN THE ORIGINAL MEMO AND THE NEW ADDITIONS PROPOSED BY
STEVE ROHLF. COMMISSIONER MORTON SECONDED THE MOTION. UPON VOTE TAKEN.
THE MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 6-1.
1. THE WATER SERVICE MUST BE LOOPED IN A MANNER ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ENGINEER AND THE FIRE CHIEF.
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PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL FIRE HYDRANT BETWEEN BUILDING NO. 7 AND NO. 4
AND INSTALL THE THREE (3) HYDRANTS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
THE SANITARY SEWER SERVICING BUILDINGS NO.1. 5. 6 AND 7 WILL BE
CONSTRUCTED AS EITHER AN INSIDE OR OUTSIDE DROP. DARRELL MACK WILL
INDICATE WHICH TYPE IS TO BE USED.
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4. PROVIDE THE CITY ENGINEER WITH STORM DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS FOR
REVIEW PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
5. EACH BUILDING MUST HAVE A STANDPIPE FOR FIRE PROTECTION.
6. TRASH RECEPTICLES SHALL BE ENCLOSED AND PLACED IN A MANNER TO
ADEQUATELY SERVICE THE BUILDINGS.
7. INSTALL LIGHTING AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
8. SIGNAGE FOR THE SITE SHALL CONFORM TO CITY CODE.
9. THE APPLICANT SHALL VERIFY THE EASEMENT FOR THE SANTITARY SEWER LINE
LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY. THI S SHALL BE VERFIFIED PRIOR TO THE
ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT. BUILDING NO. 6 APPEARS TO BE VERY
CLOSE TO THE EASEMENT. VERIFICATION OF THE EASEMENT IS NECESSARY TO
HELP PREVENT THE BUILDING FROM BEING CONSTRUCTED ON THE EASEMENT.
ADDITIONAL EASEMENT MAY BE REQUIRED.
10. PRIOR TO ANY CONSTRUCTION. THE DEVELOPER WILL NEED TO PROVIDE
DETAILED PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS. CERTIFIED BY A PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
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THE PARKING AREA SHALL BE HARD SURFACED AND DUST FREE WITH CONCRETE
CURBING. THE PARKING STALLS SHALL BE STRIPED.
PRESENT THE NEW SITE PLAN AT THE OCTOBER 17 COUNCIL MEETING.
GRANT THE CITY AN EASEMENT FOR THE SEWER LINE LOCATED ON THE SITE.
CLOSE THE NORTH ACCESS ONTO GATES AVENUE.
ERECT A 6 FT. HIGH OPAGUE FENCE BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE PROPERTY
LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE.
MOVE BUILDINGS NO.3 AND NO. 4 TO THE WEST TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL
GREEN SPACE ADJACENT TO EVANS AVENUE.
INSTALL A SIDEWALK ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO GATES AVENUE.
PLANT OPAGUE EVERGREEN PLANTINGS ALONG AL HOPPERT'S PROPERTY. EVANS
AND GATES AVENUE TO HELP SCREEN CAR LIGHTS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
CONSTRUCT A 3 I'T. TO 4 FT. BERM ALONG GATES AVENUE.
ILIMINATE BUILDING NO.6. AND ALLOW BUILDING NO.5 AND NO. 7 TO
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21. NO PAIXING WILL BE ALLOWED ADJACENT TO THE SITE ON GATES AVENUE.
Peter Kimball commented that he would like to see the dumpsters on the
adjacent property screened and something done with the tin roofs on the
garages. Don Welter (CHW) stated he would do what he can.
Adjournment
There being no further business. COMMISSIONER KIMBALL MOVED TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER SCHROEDER
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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Steven Bjork .
Zoning Assistant