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ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
SEPTEMBER 25, 1984
Members Present:
Acting Chairman Pearce, Commissioners Tralle, Wille, Wilson, Oster,
and Temple
Members Absent:
None
1. Call Meeting to order
Acting Chairman Pearce called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. Consider Agenda for the September 25, 1984 Planning Commission Meeting
#6 - Appoint a new chairman and vice chairman for the Elk River Planning Commission
to be added to the agenda.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to accept the agenda as amended.
3.
Consider Minutes of the August 28, 1984 Planning Commission Meeting
COMMISSIONER TRALLE MOVED TO ACCEPT THE AUGUST 28, 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
AS PRESENTED. COMMISSIONER TEMPLE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
Consider Conditional Use Permit Request by Walter Lynas - Public Hearing
Mr. Walter Lynas of 724 Jackson Avenue, Elk River, was present at the Planning
Commission meeting to request a conditional use permit to allow him to operate a
home occupation from his home. Mr. Lynas indicated that 75% of the items he sells
are army/navy surplus supplies, and indicated that he buys from people that have
bought from government organizations. Mr. Lynas further indicated that everything
would be contained inside his home and garage and that nothing would be displayed
outside of the home. Mr. Lynas further indicated that 25% of his products were new
products. Mr. Lynas further indicated that the hours of his operation would be
Tuesday and Thursday from 7:00 to 9:30 p.m. and Saturdays from 10:00 to 4:30 p.m.
Mr. Lynas stated that he does not deal in guns, ammunition or trucks.
Acting Chairman Pearce questioned Mr. Lynas as to how he advertises for the sale
of his products. Mr. Lynas indicated that most of his advertising is done at flea
markets which he goes to, and also by word of mouth. Acting Chairman Pearce further
questioned Mr. Lynas as to how many people at one time he anticipated would be at
his home. Mr. Lynas indicated that if he had two or three customers at once he
would be doing good.
Chairman Tralle questioned Mr. Lynas as to the type of signage he would be using.
Mr. Lynas indicated that he would comply with the City's Sign Ordinance.
Acting Chairman Pearce opened the public hearing. No one appeared for or in
opposition of the request.
Acting Chairman Pearce closed the public hearing.
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September 25, 1984
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Mr. Lynas indicated that 1/3 of his garage would be used for the housing of his
vehicle, and that 2/3 of the garage would be for sales. Mr. Lynas further indicated
that he would have no hired help. Mr. Lynas stated that this is just an experiment
at the present time, and that if he finds he gets too busy he will definitely want
to rent a building.
Commissioner Tralle indicated that he was leary of retail business going away from
the PUD and the downtown area, but felt if Mr. Lynas' intention is to eventually
go into a store, he would vote in favor of the conditional use permit.
Commissioner Temple questioned whether the customers would park on Jackson Avenue.
Mr. Lynas indicated that most of them do park on Jackson, and that a few park in
the alley.
COMMISSIONER TRALLE MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT MR. WALTER LYNAS OF
724 JACKSON AVENUE, ELK RIVER, BE GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A HOME
OCCUPATION TO SELL ARMY/NAVY SURPLUS SUPPLIES FROM HIS HOME WITH THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS:
1. THAT A GARAGE SPACE BE RETAINED FOR A VEHICLE.
2. THAT THERE BE NO PAID EMPLOYEES.
3. THAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION BE TUESDAY AND THURSDAY FROM 7:00 P.M. TO 9:30 P.M.,
AND SATURDAY FROM 10:00 A.M. TO 4:30 P.M.
4. THAT NO GUNS OR AMMUNITION BE SOLD FROM THE PREMISES AT ANY TIME.
5. THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BE RENEWED IN TWO YEARS .'. \.
COMMISSIONER WILLE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
5. Consider Conditional Use Permit Request by Donald Lindenfelser - Public Hearing
Acting Chairman Pearce indicated that Mr. Donald Lindenfe1ser, currently residing
at Route Ill, Underwood, Minnesota, has requested a conditional use permit for
property which he owns in the City of Elk River, located at 11264 202nd Avenue
NW. Acting Chairman Pearce further indicated that Mr. Lindenfelser has requested
a conditional use permit to allow him to temporarily place a travel trailer on the
subject property while he constructs a home on saad property.
Acting Chairman Pearce opened the public hearing. No one appeared for or in
opposition of the request.
Acting Chairman Pearce closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER TEMPLE MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT MR. DONALD LINDEN-
FELSER BE GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO PLACE A TRAVEL TRAILER ON PROPERTY
HE OWNS LOCATED AT 11264 202ND AVENUE NW, WHILE HE CONSTRUCTS HIS HOME FOR A
PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS. COMMISSIONER TRALLE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED
6-0.
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September 25, 1984
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General discussion was held regarding temporary conditional use permits. It was
the major consensus of the Planning Commission members that decisions such as a
temporary trailer being placed on a lot while a home is being built could be
handled at staff level.
Commissioner Tralle questioned whether agricultural building variances could be
handled at staff level instead of going through Planning Commission and City
Council. Commissioner Wille indicated that he felt there could always be a
neighbor who would complain, and therefore, he felt this should be handled
through a public hearing at Planning Commission level. Acting Chairman Pearce
and Commissioner Wilson indicated that they agreed with Commissioner Wille.
Discussion was also held regarding the fact that word is out that Elk River is
a hard town to build in and that there are too many restrictions for the builders
in Elk River. It was felt that the builders were avoiding Elk River because of
these restrictions.
Discussion was held regarding the Planning Commission as working in the Planning
part of that commission. It was felt by the Planning Commission members that they
were doing mostly zoning and no planning. Commissioner Oster indicated that the
Downtown Redevelopment Committee has planned for redeveloping downtown Elk River,
and the Planning Commission has no idea of what type of redeveloping is going to
take place. Commissioner Oster felt that this was a good example of the Planning
Commission not getting in on any of the planning.
It was indicated that the Planning Commission would like to discuss the duties of
a Planning Commission Member at their next meeting.
Acting Chairman Pearce stated that the City has no long range plans for the City
of Elk River, and indicated that he felt we need at least a25 year long range
plan.
COMMISSIONER TRALLE MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR TEMPORARY TRAILERS ON PROPERTY WHILE A BUILDING IS BEING CONSTRUCTED
BE HANDLED BY THE CITY STAFF. COMMISSIONER OSTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
PASSED 6-0.
Commissioner Oster indicated that he would like to see the planning activities of
the Planning Commission activated.
6. Election of new Chairman and Vice Chairman for the Elk River Planning Commission.
COMMISSIONER OSTER MOVED TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER PEARCE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE ELK
RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF SECOND.
COMMISSIONER WILSON MOVED TO ELECT JIM TRALLE AS CHAIRMAN AND DON WILLE AS VICE
CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONER TEMPLE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
Chairman Tralle indicated that he would like to see Planning Commission representation
at the City Council meetings on the 3rd Monday of each month. Chairman Tralle fur-
ther indicated that he would make a calendar and fill in the names of those Planning
Commission members who would be the representatives at the City Council Meeting,
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and further indicated that it would be the job of the Planning Commission Secretary
to remind the members who should be at the Council Meetings.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission members that Chairman Tralle should
implement the calendar system.
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER WILSON MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
COMMISSIONER OSTER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
Meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Sandy Thackeray
Planning Commission Secretary
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