04-13-1994 PR MIN
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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PARK & RECREATION
COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 13, 1994
Members Present:
Chair Dave Anderson; Commissioners Dana Anderson, Olson,
Daleiden, Rolfe Anderson and Clete Lipetzky (7:55 p.m.)
Members Absent:
Commissioners Sf. Dennis and O'Brien
Staff Present:
Phil Hals, Street/Park Superintendent; Jeff Asfahl, 728 Recreation
Director; Steve Rohlf, Building and Zoning Administrator
Others Present:
Chris Kreger, Planning Commission Representative; Dustin Harrell,
Kent Harrell and Ron Jacobson
1 . Call Meetinq To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Park and
Recreation Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chair Anderson.
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Consider 4/13/94 Park and Recreation Commission Aqenda
The following items were added to the agenda:
5.4. Park Dedication Fees
5.5. Park and Recreation Commission Committee Assignments
8.1 . Elk Park Center 2nd Addition
8.2. Dickenson Bus Garage
COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS
AMENDED. COMMISSION ROLFE ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
3. Consider 3/9/94 Park and Recreation Commission Minutes
COMMISSIONER OLSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE 3/9/94 PARK AND RECREATION
COMMISSION MINUTES. COMMISSIONER DALEIDEN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
4. Open Mike
There was no one present for this item.
5.1.
Duck House Installation by Dustin Harrell
Dustin Harrell thanked the Commission for their cooperation and reported that his
Scout Troop built 24 mallard houses for a cost of $312.91. Twenty-one houses were
installed on City or School District property with three on private property. He
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circulated photos of the completed project. Dustin also thanked Pat Donovan
for his help with building the cone-shaped predator guards.
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Kent Harrell suggested that the Boy Scout Troop will be contacted regarding the
ongoing maintenance of the mallard houses. The Commission members all
expressed their interest, support, and gratitude for this project.
5.2. Woodland Trails Park Water Impoundment
Chair Anderson reported to the Commission that another Boy Scout Troop has
shown an interest in doing a water impoundment on the drainage ditch in
Woodland Trails Park. It will be the Scout's responsibility to recruit help to
calculate the water levels and potential effects on area drainage. The plans will
have to be approved by a registered engineer, a neighborhood informational
meeting held, and DNR and City Council approval secured before any
construction can take place so this Scout would have a great deal of time
invested in the process alone.
5.3. Boy Scout Storaqe Buildinq on City Property - Dave Anderson
Chair Anderson reported that the Boy Scouts would like to build a 30' x 60'
storage building on Lot 4, Block 1, Ridgewood East 2nd Addition on 1911 h
A venue. Chris Kreger, Planning Commission Representative, stated that such a
building would need a conditional use permit requiring a public hearing at the
Planning Commission level and another at the City Council level.
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COMMISSIONER DALEIDEN MOVED TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE PARK
AND RECREATION COMMISSION SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT OF THE CITY FURNISHING
PROPERTY FOR A STORAGE BUILDING FOR NON-PROFIT YOUTH ACTIVITIES ON CITY
LOT 4, BLOCK 1, RIDGEWOOD EAST 2ND ADDITION. COMMISSIONER DANA
ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
5.4. Park Dedication Fees
Commissioner Dana Anderson raised the issue of Park Dedication Fees and
questioned if the fee schedule should be increased to make the donation of land
and the per unit fees more financially comparable so that developers are more
open to giving land for park property.
After a brief discussion, it was the consensus of the members that while they are
comfortable with the system as it is, there should be some research done by staff
as to the level of fees in other communities with the possibility of increasing park
dedication fees in 1995.
Commissioner Lipetzky arrived at this time (7:55 p.m.)
5.5. Park and Recreation Commission Committee Assiqnments
Chair Anderson led a discussion regarding a Park and Recreation Commission
member attending other City meetings such as Planning Commission, City
Council and Growth Management Committee.
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Chris Kreger gave a brief update on the Growth Management Plan and
suggested that a member of the Park and Recreation Commission be on the
Steering Committee so that the park and trail system may be an integral part of
the Growth Management Plan.
The Park and Recreation Commission members agreed that a Commission
representative should attend the Planning Commission, City Council, and Growth
Management Steering Committee meetings. It was the consensus of the group
to set up a rotating schedule for attending these meetings.
After a brief discussion it was the consensus of the group that Chair Anderson and
Commissioner Dana Anderson represent the Park and Recreation Commission on
the Growth Management Steering Committee with one being the representative
and the other being the alternate, depending on the meeting schedule.
6. Consider Discussion Items for Joint Meetino with City Council on 4/25/94
Chair Anderson said that it would be his preference to discuss philosophical issues
and not concentrate on nut and bolt issues.
Chair Anderson suggested that the Park and Recreation Commission give the City
Council a review of 1993 highlights, an update on Committee assignments, a
report on concerns for the park dedication structure, and a review of the
redeveloping Master Park Plan, including a suggestion for additional staff for
parks.
It was the consensus of the Park and Recreation Commission members that these
items were appropriate and adequate to fill the two hour time period with the
City Council.
7.
Consider Proposed Development by Jeff Mastley
Phil Hals presented the plat information and a brief discussion was held.
COMMISSIONER OLSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND ACCEPTING THE PARK
DEDICATION FEES IN LIEU OF PARK PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER ROLFE ANDERSON
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
8. Consider Proposed Lot Split at Heritaoe Landino
Phil Hals presented the plat information. A brief discussion was held.
COMMISSIONER L1PETZKY MOVED TO RECOMMEND ACCEPTING PARK DEDICATION
FEES IN LIEU OF PARK PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER OLSON SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
8.1 . Elk Park Center 2nd Addition
Phil Hals presented the plat information and a brief discussion was held.
COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON MOVED THAT STAFF INVESTIGATE COLLECTING
PARK DEDICATION FEES ON BOTH PARCELS OF LOT 1, BLOCK 1, BASED ON THIS
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PROPERTY HAVING NEVER PAID PARK DEDICATION AND IT IS APPROPRIATE TO
COLLECT THOSE FEES, AND ALSO THAT FEES BE COLLECTED ON LOT 2, BLOCK 1.
COMMISSION L1PETZKY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
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8.2. Dickenson Bus G.araae
Phil Hals displayed the plan for Dickenson's bus garage and a brief discussion was
held.
COMMISSIONER ROLFE ANDERSON MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE SCREENING
BETWEEN THE RAILROAD TRAIL AND THE BUS GARAGE COMPLEX BE THREE ROWS OF
EVERGREEN TREES 10' APART WITH TREES SPACED AT 15' MAXIMUM WIDTH, AND WITH
THE WESTERLY ROW BEING SPRUCE TREES WITH A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF 3' AND THAT
THE TRANSPLANTED TREES BE MAINTAINED WITH ALL DEAD TREES REPLACED IN A
TIMELY MANNER. COMMISSIONER OLSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0.
9. Review Request for Battinq Caae Facility on City Property
Phil Hals reported that City Administrator Pat Klaers informed the Donavan's that
even if a batting cage building were on City property, owned by the City, and
leased by the Donavan's, they would have to pay property taxes since it would
be a profit making venture.
A brief discussion was held by the Commission.
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CHAIR ANDERSON MOVED THAT ALTHOUGH THE PARK AND RECREATION
COMMISSION SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT, THEY RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL
AGAINST HAVING ANY PRIVATELY OWNED AND OPERATED CONCESSIONS ON OAK
KNOLL PARK PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER ROLFE ANDERSON SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
10. Discuss Trail Locations within Woodland Trails Park
Phil Hals distributed copies of a letter addressed to himself from Mike Niziolek and
a map of Woodland Trails Park trails to the Commission members and explained
Mr. Niziolek's concern for pedestrian traffic in the area of the proposed
environmental learning center. Commission members expressed their
appreciation for the work that Mr. Niziolek has done in Woodland Trails Park.
COMMISSIONER ROLFE ANDERSON MOVED TO INSTALL THE TRAIL CONNECTION
THAT IS MARKED WITH CROSS HATCHES ON THE ATTACHED MAP THAT WILL CROSS
NEAR THE 'PROPOSED ENVIRONMENTAL LEARNING CENTER LOCATION.
COMMISSIONER DALEIDEN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
11. Discuss Overhead Power Lines Alonq Park Property
Phil Hals reported the information he had gathered at the joint City
Council/Municipal Utilities Commission meeting on 4/11/94 regarding the costs,
construction concerns, and maintenance problems of underground power line
installation.
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COMMISSIONER L1PETZKY MOVED THAT THE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
WOULD ENDORSE THE IDEA OF UNDERGROUND UTILITY LINES IN LIEU OF OVERHEAD
LINES AS A GENERAL PRACTICE, AND IN PARK SETTINGS IN PARTICULAR, AND WOULD
REQUEST THAT ANY FUTURE INSTALLATION PLANS FOR LINE CONSTRUCTION
ADJACENT TO PARKS COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.
COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED
6-0.
12.
Update on Ice Rink Costs
Phil Hals stated that he did not have all of the necessary costs for developing
additional ice rinks at this time.
13. Discussion on Community Athletics - Steve Rohlf
Steve Rohlf explained the rationale for arriving at the numbers that were used to
develop this facility analysis and the ways that these forms can be used to
indicate the amount of property that needs to be acquired to accommodate
recreation activities when the City reaches full development. It was the
consensus of the Commission members that it would be a good idea to revisit this
issue next month after everyone has had an opportunity to think through the
issues.
14.
Staff Updates/Other Business
There was no other business presented.
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Adiournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER DANA ANDERSON MOVED TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER OLSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
The meeting of the Elk River Park and Recreation Commission was adjourned at
10:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Philip Hals
Street/Park Superintendent