06-08-1994 PR MIN
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MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PARK & RECREATION
COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 8, 1994
Members Present:
Chair Dave Anderson, Commissioners Olson and Rolfe Anderson
(7:35 p.m.)
Members Absent:
Commissioners Daleiden, Dana Anderson, O'Brien, Sf. Dennis, and
Lipetzky
Staff Present:
Phil Hals, Street/Park Superintendent
Others Present:
Chris Kreger, Planning Commission Representative: Piotr Bednarski;
Grant Ernhart, and Ben Kremer
1. Call MeetinG To Order
Due to the lack of a quorum, it was the consensus of the members present to
have an informational meeting only. Past meeting minutes will be considered at
the next regular meeting.
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aDen Mike
Grant Ernhart stated that the Elk River Biathlon course in the third such range in
Minnesota. On June 25, 1994, there is a Summer Biathlon meet planned that will
involve about 100 cross country runner/shooter participants. Grant requested
that the bi-athletes be allowed to drive from Meadowvale School up the railroad
trail on Sunday afternoons for practice sessions.
After a discussion, it was decided by those present to recommend to the City
Council that they allow one or two vehicles to haul equipment to and from the
practice area for the summer as a probationary period to see if problems
develop. Staff will work out some sort of vehicle permit if the City Council
approves the recommendation.
5. DOG Sled Race - Dave Anderson
Chair Anderson has been contacted by the Elk River Chamber of Commerce
regarding a dog sled race in mid January. The request is for a four mile, six mile,
and ten mile race course that would start and finish in the same location,
preferably in Orono Park. Several routes were discussed and it was the consensus
of those present to support the proposal and work with the Chamber as the
program becomes more organized.
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Discuss HikinG/BikinG Trail Concerns
Chair Anderson stated that it is important to have trails that are wide enough to
safely accommodate walkers, bikers, roller bladers, joggers, and roller skiers. After
discussing the issue, it was the consensus of those present that the Park and
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Recreation Commission should look at specific width requirements for trails as
they may relate to use as primary routes, collectors or secondary routes, and local
feeder routes, and incorporate the suggested widths into the Master Park Plan.
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7. Ice Rink ImDrovements
Phil Hals explained the price estimates in his memo regarding ice rinks and that
the small rink in Barrington was unusable all winter and the one in Moldenhauer
Park received only limited use. After a lengthy discussion, it was the consensus of
those present that money should be spent to enlarge and improve the skating
rinks at Handke Pit and Lion's Park and that a rink on Lake Orono should be
constructed on a one year test basis without lights or warming house.
Chris Kreger offered to help secure a lining material that might work in Lion's Park
to provide a combination of volleyball pits in the summer and a skating area in
the winter. Staff was instructed to work up a plan and return to a future meeting
with ideas on how this might be accomplished.
8. Discuss Pathwav Liqhts for Orono Trail
Phil Hals reported that the quote for pathway lights along Orono Trail from Orono
Parkway to Orono Beach was $12,000. After a short discussion, it was the
consensus of the group that the Park and Recreation Commission should study
the issue further before making a decision on which trails should be lit.
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Lion's Park ImDrovements
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Phil Hals reported that as part of the School Street and Jackson A venue project,
the City has the opportunity to collect 2 to 3 thousand cubic yards of crushed
concrete and up to 25,000 cubic yards of fill material that would be contractor
delivered to Lion's Park for use as trail improvements or to increase the size of the
sliding hill.
Commission members questioned if Lion's Park could be better drained to
provide several useable open fields. Phil Hals passed out a plan for a series of
drainage swales and culverts that might handle the drainage concerns. The
Commission members questioned if some of this fill material could be used to fill
the "hole in the ground" in the downtown area. Phil Hals stated that this was
possible.
The Park and Recreation Commission members on hand asked to go on record
supporting the fill material into the hole in the ground first with any excess being
used in Lion's Park.
10. Park CaDitallmDrovements
Phil Hals briefly discussed the City Council approved. list of Capital Park
improvements to give the Park and Recreation Commission an idea of proposed
projects and schedules for the summer construction season.
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Planninq Items
Hillside Estates 4th Addition - It was the consensus of those present to table this
proposal and to hold a special meeting if necessary for the following reasons:
1 . Staff should provide a location map far enough in advance to allow the
Park and Recreation Commission an opportunity to physically inspect the
site.
2. The developer failed to show the location of the proposed park property
on the plat.
3. This plat needs to be considered in conjunction with the Master Park Plan.
Country Crossinqs 2nd Addition - After discussing the project, it was the consensus
of those present that the recommendation to the City Council be as follows:
1 . Move the trail outlet from the southwest corner of the plat to the
southeast corner, between Lot 19 and 20, Block 1, so that the trail
connects with the intersection of Joplin Street and County Road 33.
2. Continue the Parkway west to Sandpiper Addition with a 12 foot wide
detached trail on the south side of the Parkway.
3. The issue of Park Dedication had been decided at a previous meeting.
Administrative Subdivision - Tim Scheel - Staff had no information, but if it is a
simple lot split, the Park and Recreation Commission recommends accepting
cash.
Administrative Subdivision - Jeff Mastley - Staff had no information, but if it is a
simple lot split, the Park and Recreation Commission recommends accepting
cash.
Administrative Subdivision - Gerald Sneft - Staff had no information, but if it is a
simple lot split, the Park and Recreation Commission recommends accepting
cash.
Conditional Use Permit/Preliminary Plat for Commercial PUD (Hillside Crossinq) -
Phil Hals stated that, in his opinion, there would be adequate space for a trail on
the north side of 193rd A venue in the right-of-way and on the west side of Evans
also in the road right-of-way for further trails. After discussing the issues, it was the
consensus of those present that the City should accept money in lieu of park
property for Park Dedication.
Staff UDdates
Boy Scout Storaqe
Chair Anderson distributed a site plan for the proposed Boy Scout storage
building and said that he is working with City staff for the necessary permits to
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build the structure. Phil Hals said that the street/Park Department will be grading
the ponding area in the near future.
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12.2. City Tree Proqram
Phil Hals explained the City's rebate to citizens who plant trees and indicated
that the participation by residents was low (about 20 applicants), so that funds
would be available to make a similar offer in the fall.
It was the consensus of the Park and Recreation Commission that a fall program
would be appropriate.
12.3. Lakoduk Barn
Phil Hals stated that he and Dave Anderson had each been approached by
representatives of the Country Crossing development and asked if the City was
interested in purchasing and moving the Lakoduk barn. After a brief discussion, it
was the consensus of the Park and Recreation Commission members present that
they concurred with staff's recommendation not to purchase or move the
Lakoduk barn.
12.4. Lakoduk Park
Phil Hals explained that a member of the Lakoduk family had complimented the
City, and Dave Anderson in particular, for the efforts to save the trees in Country
Crossings. This family member also requested that the City consider using the
Lakoduk name for the park. After a brief discussion, it was decided to review this
issue at a future Park and Recreation Commission meeting.
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12.5. Holzem ProDertv
Phil Hals reported that after his meeting with Mr. Pat Holzem, regarding the
purchase of 80 acres on 181 st A venue and Fillmore Street, he feels that there is
little to no hope of the City acquiring this property, and that staff should look at
other sites for open athletic fields.
12.6. City-wide ADA Insoection
Phil Hals reported that the City Administrator is considering consultant survey of all
City facilities to comply with Federal ADA regulations. Results of the survey and
recommendations for park improvements will be forwarded to this group.
Due to the late hour, it was the consensus of the Park and Recreation Commission to
adjourn the informational meeting at 11 :03 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Phil Hals
Street/Park Superintendent
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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ELK RIVER PARK AND RECREATION
COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL
MONDAY, JUNE 27, 1994
Members Present:
Chair Dave Anderson, Commissioners Dana Anderson, Olson,
O'Brien, Daleiden, Lipetzky and Rolfe Anderson (7:45 p.m.)
Members Absent:
Commissioner St. Dennis
Staff Present: Phil Hals, Street/Park Superintendent; Steve Ach, City Planner
Others Present:
Chris Kreger, Rick Foster and Marly Glines
1. Call Meetinq To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Park and
Recreation Commission was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chair Anderson.
2. Consider 6/27/94 Aqenda
The following items were added to the agenda:
3. Purchase of a boat dock for Lake Orono
4. Rotary sponsored circus in Lion's Park.
COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN MOVED TO APPROVE THE 6/27/94 PARK AND RECREATION
COMMISSION AGENDA AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER DALEIDEN SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
3. Purchase of a boat dock for Lake Orono
Phil Hals explained the damage to the current dock and the need for a new one.
A brief discussion was held.
COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A 40' ROLL-IN, ALL ALUMINUM, BOAT DOCK FOR LAKE
ORONO TO REPLACE THE FLOATING DOCK NOW IN PLACE. FURTHER, THAT THE
DOCK BE FIVE FEET WIDE RATHER THAN FOUR FEET WIDE IF A FIVE FOOT WIDTH IS
AVAILABLE. COMMISSIONER OLSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0.
Commissioner Rolfe Anderson arrived at this time.
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Rotary SDonsored circus in Lion's Park
Phil Hals stated that he had been approached by the local Rotary Club
requesting that they be allowed to use Lion's Park for a two day circus
performance on the evening of July 25th and all day on July 26th. The Rotarians
and circus employees will handle all set up and clean up needs.
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COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
APPROVE THE TWO DAY CIRCUS USE OF LION'S PARK. COMMISSIONER DALEIDEN
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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5. Hillside Estates 4th Addition; Consider Park Dedication
Developers Marly Glines and Rick Foster presented a plan showing the proposed
development for residential homes. The developers pointed out two power line
easements and one natural gas pipeline easement that presently exist on the
property as well as the proposed streets and lot configurations. They also
indicated that the land is rolling with an elevation difference of fifty feet.
The plan as displayed showed no land to be dedicated as park land.
Commissioner Dana Anderson expressed a concern that due of the topography,
the proposed park did not contain a flat area large enough for a softball or
soccer field and perhaps the park should be larger or moved to another area of
the plat.
COMMISSIONER L1PETZKY MOVED TO ACCEPT A 3.75 ACRE PARCEL THAT LIES JUST
SOUTH OF THE HILLSIDE 4TH ADDITION FOR PARK LAND, AND THAT THIS PARCEL BE
ATTACHED TO THE HILLSIDE 4TH ADDITION PLAT. THE PARCEL BEING 3.75 ACRES THAT
LIES WEST OF THE NORTHERN NATURAL GAS LINE EASEMENT, NORTH OF THE NSP
POWER LINE EASEMENT, AND EAST OF THE CITY WATER TOWER. AFTER CREDIT FOR
THIS PROPERTY AND TRAIL LAND THAT IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY, THE REMAINDER OF
THE PARK DEDICATION FEE BE TAKEN AS CASH. COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-1. Commissioner opposed.
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It was the consensus of the Commission that City ownership of the NSP easement
would give adjacent green space to the park and other areas in the plat, but the
easement is not acceptable for general park purposes.
Commissioner Olson left at this time (8:20 p.m.)
A discussion was held regarding trail options.
COMMISSIONER ROLFE ANDERSON MOVED THAT A 33 FOOT WIDE TRAIL EASEMENT
PARALLELING AND IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE NORTHERN NATURAL GAS EASEMENT
FROM 193RD AVENUE NORTHEASTWARD PARALLELING AUBURN STREET ON THE EAST
SIDE, ON THE BACKYARD SIDE OF THE EXISTING LOTS, TO THE CITY WATER TOWER
PARCEL AND A 30 FOOT WIDE TRAIL EASEMENT ON THE NSP POWER LINE EASEMENT
FROM THE EAST PLAT BOUNDARY TO THE WEST PLAT BOUNDARY IF THE NSP POWER
LINE EASEMENT DOES NOT BECOME CITY PROPERTY BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
6. Adiournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN MOVED TO ADJOURN THE
MEETING. COMMISSIONER ROLFE ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
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The special meeting of the Elk River Park and Recreation Commission adjourned
at8:30 p.m.
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Phil Hals
Street/Park Superintendent