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10-22-1979 PC MIN ELK RIv~ PLA~ITiING CO~~~ISSION ~~ING HELD II;! THE ELK RI\lER P1:J3LIC LIBP~oIoRY October 22, 1979 Members Present: Commissioners Fox, Holmes, Tracy, Lucas, Driessen, Rootes, arid Hi!L1.cle. Also Present: Herbert S. Adolphson, Community Development Director 1. Meeting Called to Order The meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Commissioner Fox. 2 . II~inutes COIl1!t:IISSIONER HOLlvIES i\10v~D APPROV.A...L OF THE f.iIINUTES OF THE SEPTEr.mER 24, 1979 l!..~ID THE OCTOBER 10, 1979 PLAN1II11TG COI~1I\1ISSIOl~ 1\'lEETI l'TG . COr:TI,IISSIONER DRIESSE1f SEC01IDED THE I;iOTIO}T. Ivl0TIOlf PASSED 6-0. 3 . Agenda The Planning Commission approved of the October 22, 1979 agenda. 4. United Methodist Church Jim IJystrom, representing the Uni tea fflethodist Church, and Darrell LeBaron, an architect, appeared before the Planning Co~~ission to re~uest variances for setbacks and off-street parking. Mr. LeEaron explained the reasons, both present and future, for the design proposed. This proposal was discussed previously with Bob Middaugh and Herb Adolphson to try tb forsee any problems. One problem was an off-street parking which could be solved by vacating Quinn F.venue bet"reen 4th street and I'ilain street. 1rlr. :Nystrom had talked to various adjacent neighbors and found no opposition to these changes. Archie Larson, a neighbor was concerned about enough parking spaces. Commissioner Driessen questioned the probability of widening the street 3-4 feet to gain protection of passing cars. Mr. LeBaron explained that closest setbacks to any street would be 10 feet. CO~rr~ISSIO!mR LUCAS I\10V~ APPROVAL OF A VARIA1JCE FOR A SETBACK OF NOT LESS TRA.1T 10 FEEl' O~J IvIAIN" STREET AlID SECOl'JD STREBIr. CO:MllIISSIO:NER DRIESSE:N SECONDED THE 1110TI01J 0 I~OTION PASSED 6-0. The off street parking variance v~s then discussed. It was stated. 'that there 110uld be seating for 229 people a.Yld 32 parking spaces were available. The present ordinance calls for 1 space for every 4 people which would require the church to have approximately 56 spaces. Commissioner Holmes was concerned that the Planning Commission may be limiting the church from expanding in the future. Mr. Nystrom could not see the church expanding for qui te some time. COI\TIflISSIONER HIID<:LE !\iO\lED APPROVAL OF 11 VARIAIJCE FOR OFF-STREET PARKII~Go COI~1I.1ISSIOlJER HOLliLES SECOr-IDE]) T:FIE I\-'IOTIOI~. yrOTIOIJ P.P..SSED 6-0. 5. 3rentwood preliminaIJT Discussion Jim Klein appeared for TIennis Anderson regarding Erentwood development. He explained this development would be on Highway 169 across from Hyland Hills. Commissioner Fox did not thi~~ the City Council would accept the park as proposed and also was concerned that lots 1-9 might not be buildable because of sound barrier requirements. Co~~issioner Hi~~le suggested getting rid of some of the cul-de-sacs. The Com~ission would like to see Lowell Circle corillect with Lowell street. Jim did not thi~~ it was possible, because of the contour of the 1~~d7 to connect Lowell Circle to 196th Circle. The Corr~ission suggested a few alternatives. Basically, the lots are of proper size. There are 92 lots averaging-2i acres. There are a couple lots approximately 1 acre or less and it was suggested that the minimum should be 1~ acres. The Co~~ission also would like to see 196th Avenue and 197th Avenue straightened out a little. It was noted that vari~~ces would be needed for lot size. 6. Archie Larson turned over to the Planning Corrmission, old letters, maps, lists, etc., regarding parks. 7. Adjournment COI~J"IIISSIO:NER HOLM:ES }.'10\:31) THE yrEETIJ.IG TO BE i1DJOTJRNED. COloTI~'lISSIONER LUG.AS SECOh'"DED THE :MOTIOl'Y. I~OTIOJ.T PF..SSED 6-0. b/~~ Herbert S. Adolphson Community TIevelopment Director AB,/ca