02-22-1982 PC MIN
ELK RIVER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER PUBLIC LIBRARY
Monday, February 22, 1982
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Commissioners Pearce, Fredericksen, Gunkel and Chairman Tracy
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Commissioner Kreuser
STAFF PRESENT:
Rick Breezee, Building and Zoning Administrator
1. Meeting Called to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Tracy at 7:35 p.m.
2. Agenda
The following item was added to the Agenda as Item #3~: Mr. Ted Lundgren and
Mr. Rick Foster asked to present their PUD Concept to the Commissioners for a
possible variance at a later scheduled meeting.
3. Minutes
Chairman Tracy asked the Commissioners if they approved of the minutes of the
January 25, 1982 Planning Commission meeting. Commissioner Gunkel indicated
that she would like Item #5 changed and re-worded as follows: 1) The ordinance
states that a 'PUD shall be served by adequate '\vater and se'\ver system'. Does
this mean City sewer and water? 2) The main purpose of a PUD is to plan a large
tract of land in an orderly fashion. A PUD has no specific zone within its bound-
aries. Allowing 10 acre PUDs would allow too many boundaries. Allowing 10 acre
PUDs would allow too many spot-mixtures. 3) Most areas close to do\~to\vn are
covered in the zone recommendations of the HRA. 4) A 10-acre minimum lead to
too many PUD areas. This is a cop-out. 5) Much thought and discussion went into
the decision that established the present PUD requirements. This also involved
cnsiderable participation on the part of private citizens. The present require-
ments should not be altered to accomodate a couple of developers. Commissioner
Gunkel suggests that areas less than 20 acres should be specifically zoned.
COMMISSIONER PEARCE ~ffiDE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS CORRECT FOR JANUARY
25, 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. COMMISSIONER GUNKEL SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION PASSED 4-0.
3~. Consider Lundgren PUD Concept
Mr. Rick Foster on behalf of Mr. Ted Lundgren, presented to the Planning Commis-
sion on a concept basis for their review, a possible variance request to allow
a l7~ acre PUD from the required 20 acre PUD in a totally land-locked situation.
This area is north of the City of Elk River which is bounded on the south by High-
land Road, on the north by 193rd Avenue, on the east by Jackson Avenue (County
Road 201), and on the west by Highland Road. Mr. Foster indicated to the Com-
missioners that because the land is totally land-locked by surrounding pieces of
property which is not o'\vued by Mr. Lundgren, the only possible way of developing
this area as a PUD would be to allow a variance to be granted. He proceeded to
explain to the Commissioners that this area be totally City sewered and watered
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February 22, 1982
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and that the project would be built in phases with the first phase of the
operation to be conducted on the south end of the development along Highland
Road. The second phase of operation would consist of building a City street
the entire length of Highland Road to 193rd Avenue m~ with the other projects
being built as needed in relation to the economic growth.
Commissioner Pearce asked Mr. Foster if he felt that the southeastern portion
of the development would really be needed as commercial property and also if
it was a commercial piece of property, what would be the concept that would be
built there.
Mr. Foster explained to the Commissioners that this was planned for a conven-
ience type of store and that because of the amount of construction that is
presently being proposed and the density that is within the area, this con--
venience type of store would be an asset to the surrounding property o\vners.
Commissioner Gunkel asked whether or not the adjoining property owners would
have any input on whether the area was to be rezoned or not.
Mr. Breezee indicated to the Commissioners that if a variance was to be issued
for a PUD and a conditional use permit was requested by Mr. Lundgren, then there
would be the necessary public hearing notices in the local newspaper and mailed
to the property owners within 350 feet of the area in question, so they would
be properly notified.
Commissioner Gunkel feels that the best way of developing this property is in
a R-3 or R-4 zoned area which would have to meet the City's requirements relating
to setbacks and density per acre.
Commissioner Pearce indicated to the gentlemen that he would pe in favor of the
development in regard to the location of the structu~es as they are laid out and
of the concept. However, the convenience store in his opinion, is not in the
best interest of the surrounding property owners and that he would like to see
a section within our ordinance ~o allow a private road to be built to these
units so that the necessary frontage and lot requirements could be met on a
private road as opposed to a City road.
Mr. Breezee indicated to the Commissioners that this change would be in the
new ordinance that would allow private roads to be built to City standards for
this type of property o\mership.
Chairman Tracy informed the Commissioners that he was in favor of this PUD con-
cept because of the fact that when a PUD is being planned or developed, the City
has more control of the entire project as opposed to a regularly zoned area re-
lating to landscaping, setback requirements, berming and buffers from one prop-
erty to another. He felt that if it was done in a proper manner and the density
unit per acre met the staff and the City's requirements, then a PUD can hopefully
be an asset to the community rather than a hinderance. He also indicated that he
agreed with Mr. Foster in that with the amount of construction that his plan
will require and the amount of construction that is presently being done in the
area, the convenience store could possibly make a good location for the total
area.
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February 22, 1982
Page Three
This item was on a concept basis only; there was no formal motion needed.
However, it was the consensus of four out of the five Planning Commission
members that they were more in favor of a zone change to allow an R-3 or
R-4 type of zone, as opposed to a PUD to allow the commercial area to be
built.
4. Consider Conditional Use Permit Request for Home Occupation for Bruce Genck
Mr. Bruce Genck was present to explain to the Commissioners that he presently
operates a full-time piano repair operation that covers approximately a 30-
mile radius from his home. Mr. Genck informed the Commissioners that he dis-
cussed the five standards that is required for a home occupation with Mr.
Breezee and can see no problem in meeting them.
Commissioner Gunkel asked Mr. Genck how the pianos were delivered and Mr.
Genck informed them that any time when a piano is delivered to his residence
for a repair, that it usually is done by a single-axle enclosed pick-up and
that no large, moving tractor trailers or large double-axle trucks were used
to deliver these items. Mr. Genck also informed the Commissioner that he
only does one, maybe two pianos at a time. Never do the pianos build up for
stock so that he would not have the necessary storage problems to cope with.
COMMISSIONER FREDERICKSEN MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR MR. GENCK'S HOME OCCUPATION AT 11681 194TH AVENUE, TO ALLOW HIM TO REPAIR
PIANOS. CO}MISSIONER GUNKEL SEC01~ED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 3-0.
There was additional discussion relating to the number of years this home oc-
cupation should be granted before a review procedure is done. Commissioner
Pearce asked Mr. Bob Middaugh, the City Administrator who was sitting in the
audience, whether an additional $100 application fee would be needed when the
two-year term expired when Mr. Genck would have to appear before the Commission
for the review process. Mr. Middaugh gxplained that if they do put a time
limit on the .permit and when the applicant does come in for review purposes,
the additional $100 would have to be paid so that the necessary notices can
be sent out and the paper work done. Mr. Middaugh also explained to the Com-
missioners that the staff felt that a time span put on a conditional use per-
mit would really not have to be done because of the fact that if at any time
the applicant does not conform to the conditions that were set for the con-
ditional use permit, such as the five requirements for a home occupation, then
the City has the right to revoke such conditional use permit.
5. Consider Conditional Use Permit Request by Jon and Carol Lundberg
Mr. and Mrs. Jon Lundberg were present to explain to the Planning Commission
their request for a home occupation for a small electronic assembly work to
be done out of their garage located at 20791 Elk Lake Road. The electronic
assembly work would basically consist of small wire wrappings and doing some
soldering of printed circuit boards. The tools that would be used would be
small metal jigs and soldering irons.
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February 22, 1982
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Commissioner Pearce asked Mrs. Lundberg what type of vehicles were used
to bring the items to their home for the assembly work. Mrs. Lundberg in-
formed the Commissioner that the items are brought in, she herself goes to
the places that are requesting the work done, and brings them in her own
personal pick-up truck. Commissioner Pearce then asked Mr. Breezee whether
or not the structure was safe for this type of operation. Mr. Breezee in-
formed them that the area Mrs. Lundberg would use for assembly procedures
would be in the lower level of a two-level, span-crete type constructed
garage and that the wall attached to the home was a one-hour fire wall with
a solid core door and closer and as such, Mr. Breezee felt there was no pro-
blem in meeting the code for the separations. Commissioner Pearce also asked
whether or not there would be a problem with a requirement on the number of
employees that they have requested. Mrs. Lundberg indicated that right now
the very maximum that she would ever employ is two and if that number did
exceed two, there would probably be a reason for her going to an area within
the City of Elk River that is properly zoned for such operation.
COMMISSIONER PEARCE RECOMMENDED APPROVING SUCH PERMIT FOR A HOME OCCUPATION
FOR JON AND CAROL LUNDBERG, 20791 ELK LAKE ROAD, TO DO ELECTRONIC ASSEMBLY
WORK OUT OF THEIR HOME, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES
DOES NOT EXCEED TWO. COMMISSIONER FREDERICKSEN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION PASSED3-0.
6. Consider Zone Change Request by Mr. John Plaisted
Mr. John Plaisted was present to present to the Commissioners a map showing
the area that he is requesting a zone change from an A-ljAgricultural Zone to
an 1-2/Industrial Zone. Mr. Plaisted informed the Commissioners that he
presently O\VTIS the Elk River Ready Mix located north of to\Vll on #169 and
205th Avenue. He then informed the Commissioners that on May II, 1972, the
County granted him a zone change to allow this area to be used as industrial
purposes and that he felt the City was wrong in re-zoning it back to agricult-
ural without undue reasons. Mr. Plaisted went on to explain to the Commission-
ers that the land surrounding the area that he is requesting for a zone change
is presently used for mineral extraction purposes and that there was no real
feasible or allowed residential construction or any other type of operations
to be conducted other than mineral extraction for a period of between 25 and
30 years. As such, he felt that if his area was zoned 1-2, he would bring in
operations that would be somewhat compatible to mineral extraction.
Mr. Gary Santwire was present and stated that if Mr. Plaisted had a good reason
to re-zone the area and that if it could be used for those purposes, it could
bring in added jobs to the area and as such, it would be a possible influence
on the economic growth of Elk River.
Commissioner Pearce asked Mr. Breezee on what position the staff would take
regarding this zone change as requested by Mr. Plaisted. Mr. Breezee indi-
cated to the Commissioners that the staff is not in favor of the zone change
because of the fact that if the area was allowed to be zoned 1-2, it would be
difficult to regulate what type of operations could be in the area and as such,
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February 22, 1982
Page Five
would these 1-2 operations be compatible with the surrounding A-I zoned
area? Mr. Breezee indicated to the Commissioners that the staff feels
that a conditional use permit should be allowed that would make related
operations to mineral extractions be allowed in this area and that way
Mr. Plaisted would be able to have his operations for his concrete proc-
essing plants.
Mr. Plaisted then told the Commissioners that because he is the sole prop-
erty owner of this area, that if he was allowed to develop an industrial
park, as o\vuer, he could regulate \vhat is allowed to be built and what is
not allowed to be built. As such, it would not be in his interest to allow
some of the uses that are allowed in an 1-2 zoned area that would not be
compatible with the surrounding property o\vners.
Commissioner Gunkel indicated that she would rather see the area on the
farthest outskirts of the City be zoned 1-2 so that this type of operation
would not be determental to the densely populated areas surrounding the
do\vntown and as such, she would be in favor of zoning that area 1-2 so that
industrial operations culd be conducted away from the more densely populated
portions of the City.
COMMISSIONER PEARCE MADE A MOTION THAT A ZONE CHANGE BE DENIED BUT THAT A CON-
DITIONAL USE PERMIT BE ALLOWED FOR RELATED OPERATIONS TO MINERAL EXTRACTIONS
SUCH AS tffi. PLAISTED'S CE~rnNT PROCESSING PLANT WITHIN THE AREA. THERE WAS
NO SECOND TO THE MOTION. THE MOTION FAILED.
COMMISSIONER GUNKEL MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE FROM A-l/AGRI-
CULTURAL TO 1-2/INDUSTRIAL FOR THE AREA INDICATED ON THE MAP. CO}lliISSIONER
FREDERICKSEN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 3-0. CHAIR}~N TRACY DID
NOT VOTE.
7. Consider Moratorium on Metal Skinned Buildings
Mr. Breezee informed the Commissioners that because of the fact that the build-
ing season will be upon us very shortly, that the moratorium that was placed
on the metal skinned buildings must be resolved as soon as possible. He asked
the Commissioners if they had any recommendations regarding requirements for
such structures.
Commissioner Gunkel said that she reviewed the outline that was presented by
Mr. Breezee and was in favor of the 120 square foot requirement for any struct-
ures to be built in any zone for the small utility type buildings.
Co~~issioner Fredericksen asked Mr. Breezee if a person o\vued, for example,
a 10-acre piece of property in which to build a 2,OOOsquare foot accessory
garage on his property, would he be allowed to do so?
Mr. Breezee informed the Commissioner that only if it were for agricultural
purposes and it was zoned for such, would a 2,000 square foot building be allowed.
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February 22, 1982
Page Six
Commissioner Gunkel suggested that the structure be of compatible color
to the principle building so that it would blend in 'with the neighborhood.
Mr. Breezee stated that the requirements for metal skinned buildings are:
1. Portable utility buildings not exceeding 120 square feet in size
may be permitted in any residential or agricultural zoned areas and
be constructed of metal, wood, or masonry and comply with required
yard setbacks (presently 5' rear and 5' sideyard). These buildings
must be anchored to the ground.
2. No metal skinned buildings (such as pole buildings) shall be allowed
in R-lc zoned areas. Accessory buildings shall be constructed of
wood and/or masonry and shall not exceed 30% of the rearyard area
or 1000 square feet in size and comply with the 5' rear and 5' side-
yard requirements.
3. No metal skinned buildings (such as pole buildings) shall be allowed
in R-la or R~lb zoned areas except when used specifically for agricul-
tural purposes. These structures, when allowed, shall be setback
from the lot lines the same as the requirements for the principal
building or be setback from a platted subdivision as required in
principal uses in Section 900.12(3) on Page 9 of the zoning ord-
inance.
Section 900.12 states:
3. R-l single-family residential districts
c) Agricultural uses on lots 2~ acres or larger in size except
as follo"\vs:
(1) Crop farming within 300' of platted subdivision.
(2) Commercial animal farming within 600' of a platted
subdivision.
Accessory buildings may be constructed of wood and/or masonry and
shall not exceed 30% of the rearyard area or 1000 square feet in
size and comply with the same setbacks as the principle building
requirements.
4. Metal skinned, wood, and masonry accessory buildings shall be allowed
in A-I Agricultural zoned areas and shall not exceed 30% of rearyard
areas or 1000 square feet. Such accessory buildings must also meet
the required setback distance from platted subdivisions as outlined
in Item 3.
COMMISSIONER PEARCE MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED BY
MR. BREEZEE FOR METAL SKINNED BUILDINGS. COMMISSIONER FREDERICKSEN SECONDED
THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 3-0.
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February 22, 1982
Page Seven
8. Consider HRA Letter
Mr. Breezee asked the Commissioners if they had an opportunity to review the
rough draft letter that he sent to them regarding the BRA Downtown Redevelop-
ment Plan.
The Commissioners were in favor of finalizing the draft that was draivu up by
Mr. Breezee except that Mr. Breezee informed them that Commissioner Pearce
was in favor of an architectural review procedure to be done by the Planning
Commission whenever a developer is to present or propose a project to be
done within the dOivntOwn area. The other Commissioners were in favor of
such a proposal and as such, they informed Mr. Breezee to add to the letter
their concerns relating to architectural reviewal to be done by the Planning
Commission.
9. Non-Con Items
a. Before the meeting was adjourned, Commissioner Pearce wanted to make it
public record that although he voted in favor of the Plaisted zone change,
tha t \Vas not his intent and cannot explain \vhy he did such. Ho\vever, he
informed the audience and the Commissioners that he was not in favor of
the zone change and if it was to be voted on again, his vote would be to
deny the request for a zone change from an A-I to an 1-2 as requested by
Mr. John Plaisted.
10. Adjournment
There being no further business, COMMISSIONER PEARCE MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER GUNKEL SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED 3-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
submitted,
Zoning Administrator
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