5.7B. SR 11-12-2002 Howard R, Green Oompany
November 7, 2002
File: 230106M-0325
Item 5.7.B.
Honorable Mayor and City Council
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: NAPLES STREET/186TM AVENUE PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL MEETING
Dear Council Members:
As directed by the City Council, we have held another public informational meeting with the residents
of Naples Street and 186th Avenue. As you may be aware, the history with this neighborhood dates
back to 1990. At this public informational meeting, we discussed the potential of extending City
sanitary sewer and watermain into the neighborhood and constructing permanent urban style streets.
This informational meeting was authorized by the City Council based on conversations with one or
two of the affected residents in the area who had indicated they felt that property owner's views on
public improvements may have changed over the years.
To give the Council a sense of history of the area, the following is a chronologically ordered summary
of City staff interaction with the residents:
· August 20, 1990: City receives a petition from the neighborhood asking for an upgrade to the
streets and for the City to take over maintenance of the private roads.
November 1990: Feasibility study is prepared, which lists three options for street construction.
They consist of permanent urban style streets, a urban style blacktop street with bituminous
berm, and a third option of a gravel upgrade with the City taking over maintenance of the
gravel road.
· February 4, 1991: Feasibility study is accepted by the City Council and staff is directed to hold
an informational meeting with the residents.
· March 19, 1991: Informational meeting with the residents is held by City staff.
March 20, 1991: Based on the input from the residents at the informational meeting, staff
makes a recommendation to the City Council to invest $13,500.00 in a gravel road upgrade in
exchange for the residents providing 60-foot wide road easements so that the City may
maintain the gravel upgrade. Previously, the road was considered private and was maintained
by the homeowners.
· Easements documents are prepared and the area is staked for public viewing.
· August 6, 1991: Informational meeting is held with the residents as a follow-up to gage
interest in signing of the easements.
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· July 22, 1992: Terry Maurer letter to Pat Klaers summarizing that there are only four signed
easements.
August 21, 1992: Letter to the residents indicating that with the limited number of signed
easements the City has received, the City is removing the potential gravel upgrade from their
current projects list.
· Easements continue to trickle in based on the last letter to the homeowners.
City's street department goes in and makes a gravel upgrade and begins to maintain the road
even though not all the appropriate easements are in the City's possession. At this point, eight
of twelve easements are returned and signed. To date, no additional easements have been
provided; however, there have been no complaints from those not signing the easements
about the City maintaining the roadway.
With this summary as background, attached are minutes from the October 22, 2002 informational
meeting, the sign-up sheet from the informational meeting, a November 18, 1996 summary of
roadway easements received, and a map of the area indicating the property owners in favor and
against extension of public utilities and a permanent street construction in the area.
If the City were to proceed with a feasibility study for public improvements leading to a project to
construct public utilities and permanent streets, all of the easements would need to be in place to
accomplish these improvements. With at least one of the property owners who have not submitted
their easement indicating at the most recent public informational hearing that they were against the
proposed improvements, the City would likely be led to an imminent domain situation if the project
were to move forward. Therefore, it is staff's recommendation that at this time the City Council take
no action on this request for improvements other than to perhaps send a letter to all of the property
owners indicating that the City will take no further action until all of the easements are submitted or a
willingness to submit the easements is indicated to City staff.
If you have any questions regarding this information, I will be in attendance at your November 12,
2002 City Council Meeting.
Sincerely,
Howard R. Green Company
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CONSULTING ENGINEERS
Informational Meeting Minutes
186th Avenue and Naples Street
October 22, 2002 - 7:00 P.M.
Kristie Thompson from Howard R. Green welcomed those present to the neighborhood meeting
regarding the proposed reconstruction and addition of utilities for 186th Avenue and Naples Street
from 185th Avenue to the north. (See sign in sheet for those in attendance.)
Kristie noted that this area had been looked at previously and a feasibility study completed in
1990 that looked at a couple of different options for improving the gravel road. At that time it
was determined that the majority of the residents were not in favor of paving the roadway. The
City did proceed with obtaining easements from a majority of the residents that granted public
right-of-way over the street. Once that was completed additional gravel was added and the City
now plows the road in the winter.
It was stated that a couple of items had changed since the feasibility study was completed in
1990. The City has now adopted a typical roadway section that calls for the installation of barrier
concrete curb and gutter and storm sewer. Utilities were also extended down 186th Avenue,
allowing for the ease in future extension into the neighborhood. It was stated that because of
some interest from residents, Council had directed staffto revisit with the property owners to
determine if the majority were now in favor of the improvements. The purpose of the
informational meeting was to gauge neighborhood interest in completing another feasibility study
that would update the study completed in 1990. Revisiting the feasibility study would also allow
the City to reevaluate costs associated with the improvements and how they would be assessed to
property owners. It was explained that expressing interest in a feasibility study was not an
automatic vote for the improvements but that the issue would be revisited once the study was
complete.
At this point, Kristie reviewed a general concept for how utilities would be extended and what the
typical road section would consist of.
It was stated that at this point the City was looking at assessing residents for the improvements on
a per unit basis. Several of the larger lots would be probably be assessed multiple units. It was
also stated that there would be additional costs associated with the project. These included a
sewer and water hook-up fee, the cost of running services from the road right-of-way to the home,
abandoning the septic system and well, and a monthly charge for usage. Kristie noted that if the
project were completed, residents would have two years from the time the utilities were available
to hook-up or the City would automatically charge the property owner the hook-up fees and start
charging a monthly user fee.
It was noted by two residents that they felt they would be unable to afford additional assessments.
Kristie noted that if a resident was over 65 or permanently disabled, they would be able to defer
the assessment until the property was sold. It was noted that interest would accrue during this
time.
Mr. Donald Rahn expressed concern that his property would be assessed for the improvements.
He currently has access to his home off of 185th Avenue and only a segment that is 66-feet wide
fronts on Naples Street. He also noted that this portion of his property had an easement over it
that granted a driveway access to a landlocked parcel to the west. Kristie stated that how is
property would be assessed would be reviewed as part of the feasibility.
Kristie asked for a consensus of those present regarding their interest in this project. The
residents were generally split between those in favor of the improvements and those not. They
were asked to indicate their interest on the sign-in sheet. A map noting the responses is attached.
It was noted by the residents that the property on the west comer of 185th Avenue and Naples
Street had recently been purchased and the new owners may not be aware of the meeting or issue.
Residents expressed interest in possibly improving only Naples Street. Kristie noted that this
interest would be mentioned to City Staff and Council.
Kristie stated this information would be provided to the City Council at an upcoming meeting. If
it was determined by Council that a feasibility study would be undertaken, notice would be
provided to the residents.
The Kristie thanked those present for taking the time to discuss this project with staff.
The meeting was adjoumed.
~~Howard R, Green Qompany
Informational Meeting
PRO,TECT NAME: Naples 5treat / 186th Avenue, 5treat and Utility Zmprovements
OWNER: City of Elk River
DATE OF MEETING: 7:00 p.m., Wednesday October 16th, 2002
Name (Print) Mailin~l Address/ZipPhone No.
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November 18, 1996
NAPLES/186TH AVENUE EASEMENTS
NAME EASEMENT
RECEIVED
Rahn X
Hartman
Guck X
t(nutsen X
Bickman, Joseph and Michael
Bickman, Joseph and Delores ..,
Theisen- (Olson is occupant) '? "'
Goenner X "~
John
Chicome :' X.
*Lofgren
Waite
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*Lofgren indicated he would bring his in when it gets signed'by the Mortgage Company.
River
JOSEPH AND DELORES BICKMAN
75-131-1440
JAMES AND PATTI SWANSON
75-131 -1 406
NAPLES STF qUE
PROJECT AREA
NAPLES STRE~
3-YES GERALD P. WAITE
2-NO 75-1 51 -11 O0
186TH AVENUE
3-YES
3-NO DONALD R_ AND DONNA M. RAHN
75-131-11 01
NO
ANTONIO AND CARMEN PENA
75-1 51-1 405
SARA S.
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AT INFORMATIONAL
MEETING CALLED IN
THEIR VOTE
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THOMAS E. AND
HARTMAN
75-597-0010
eeYES
JAMES WAITE
75-131 -1 415
eeNO
THOMAS AND
75-151-1445
NO
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MARCELLA E. JOHN
75-151-14-60
LOREN AND
THERESA CHICOINE
75-131-14-00
YES
NAPLES STREET
BERNICE GUCK
75-131-1420
YES
Howard
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MARJORIE GOENNER
JOSEPH AND
BICKMAN
75-131-1435
YES
DELORES
JOSEPH AND
BICKMAN
75-151-1450
DELORES
GARY OLSON
75-151-14-50
NO
MILES AND KAREN
KNUTSEN
75-131-1455
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