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ITEM 3.1.
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
MEMORANDUM
Mayor and City Council
Steven B. Ach, City Planner ~
April 11, 1996
Conditional Use Permit Request
by Menards, Inc., Public Hearing
Case No. CU 96-2
Issue
Menards, Inc. is requesting a conditional use permit for site plan approval to
construct a 160,680 square foot commercial building in Hillside Crossing II
planned unit development.
Location
The southeast corner of Highway 169 and 197th Avenue
Zoning/Land Use
PUD (Planned Unit Development) / HB (Highway Business)
Attachments
· Memo from City Engineer dated 4/8/96
· Revised development plans dated 4/8/96
· Report to the Planning Commission dated 3/26/96
Planned Unit Development
The proposed project is located in Hillside Crossing II planned unit
development. The City Council recently approved the master development
plan for this area along with a preliminary and final plat. Menard's plans
are consistent with the development plans previously approved. Future
projects will also have to comply with the PUD's guidelines. A conditional
use permit for site plan review by the City Council will also be required for
those future projects.
13065 Orono Parkway · P.O. Box 490 · Elk River, MN 55330 · (612) 441-7420 · Fax: (612) 441-7425
Memo to the Mayor and City Council/CU 96-2
April 11, 1996
Project Overview
Page 2
Menards, Inc. is proposing a 160,680 square foot facility in Hillside Crossing
planned unit development. The project is located on Lot 1, Block 1, which is
an approximately 11 acre parcel. The Menards store will have a floor area
divided up in the following fashion:
· Sales area- 104,370 sq. ft.
· Receiving area - 13,410 sq. ft.
· Warehouse - 42,900 sq. ft.
Surrounding the building on the south, east and north side will be a 14 ft.
high screening structure (fence) constructed of 2' x 8' vertical wood siding and
a pre-finished metal roof, extending toward the inside of the storage yard.
The screening structure will provide complete screening and security for the
outdoor storage area, as well as provide shelving or stacking opportunities for
outdoor products to be stored. The outdoor storage area, or yard area, is
approximately 2.75 acres in size.
Li~htin~
Incorporated as part of the screening structure will be approximately 10 light
standards surrounding the perimeter. The Planning Commission asked
questions relating to lighting of the storage yard; however, were assured that
the lights will not be on once the store closes. At the Planning Commission
meeting, it was mentioned that the store hours do not exceed 9:00 p.m. any
night of the week. It should also be noted that these lighting standards are
designed to direct the lighting in a downward fashion and not directed upon
adjacent properties. The development plans also indicate all wall pack
lighting (mounted onto the building) will have metal deflectors to, once
again, direct the light downward and not cause any nuisance to surrounding
properties.
Hours of Operation
It is anticipated that Menards will be open seven days a week and operate
between the hours of 9 a.m. and 9 p.m. each day. These hours are consistent
with similar businesses along the Highway 169 corridor.
Underground Irrigation
One of the issues discussed at the Planning Commission meeting related to
the type of underground irrigation proposed by Menards. This irrigation
system is not a "typical" underground irrigation system, in that it requires
garden hoses to be utilized to water the landscaped areas. Basically, the
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Memo to the Mayor and City Council/CU 96-2 Page 3
April 11, 1996
Menards proposal is to use a frost-proof system, whereby the water lines are
buried much deeper than a typical irrigation system. At various locations
throughout the site, a pipe would extend up out of the ground where a
garden hose can be attached. The Planning Commission expressed some
concern whether this type of irrigation system actually meets the City's
ordinance. Also, with this type of irrigation system, garden hoses would most
likely remain in the landscaped areas.
Since the Planning Commission meeting, staff has considered this type of
irrigation system proposed by Menards and would recommend that a
standard underground irrigation system by installed throughout all
landscaped areas. Menards has indicated that they have had problems with
the typical underground irrigation system freezing in the wintertime and
causing them maintenance problems. However, based on staffs conversation
with various underground irrigation contractors, ff the irrigation is properly
maintained, the owner should not experience any problems throughout the
year.
Landscal~ ing
Another area of the Menards development plans which needs to be modified
is the landscaping. As part of the overall planned unit development, typical
landscaping themes are provided both in Hillside Crossing I and in Hillside
Crossing II. These landscaping themes typically occur at all entrance points
into the developing sites and at other intersections where landscaping can be
provided. It is staffs understanding that Menards will be adjusting their
plans to include the landscaping themes at each of their entrance points, as
well as the southeast corner of 196th and Evans where there is an
opportunity to provide additional landscaping consistent with the planned
unit development standards.
Also, following up on the Planning Commission's comments, staff is
recommending to increase the landscaping in various locations around the
perimeter of the site. For example, along Evans Avenue, additional conifers
can be provided, creating groups of three approximately every 150 feet. Also,
additional landscaping may be necessary along the east and southeast
portions of the site to properly screen and buffer the residential areas to the
east. However, it is uncertain at this time how much of an effect the grading
will have on the existing trees in this area; therefore, it is (]ifficult to
determine whether additional landscaping will be needed at this time. It
would be best to assess this condition at a later point during the construction
period.
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Memo to the Mayor and City Council/CU 96-2
April 11, 1996
Si~na~e
Menard's sign package includes a freestanding sign along Highway 169
which will be incorporated into the project's development sign (advertising
Hillside Crossing II). (See attached exhibit).
As far as wall signage, the following is proposed for the front building wall:
SIGN LEGEND
SIGNS HEIGHT LENGTH SQ. FOOTAGE
Menards 6' - 0,' 52' - 0,' 312
Welcome To .... 1' - 6" 40' - 0" 60
Millwork 2' - 0" ff - 4" 18.7
Paint 2' - 0" 5' - 2" 10.3
Lumber 2' - 0" 7' - 10" 15.7
Carpet 2' - 0" 7' - 4 1/2" 14.8
Cabinets 2' - 0'' 10' - 0'' 20.0
Electrical 2' - 0" 9' - 9" 19.5
Plumbing 2' - 0" 9' - 4" 18.7
Hardware 2' - 0'' 9' - 10'' 19.7
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Total Sq. footage = 509.4 sq. ft.
The total wall sign square footage is 509.4 square feet. The ordinance allows
up to 300 square feet; however, since the project is a planned unit
development, the Council has the latitude to vary from the ordinance
requirements. This variance from the ordinance can be either more or less
restrictive.
One issue staff has noticed since the Planning Commission meeting is the
product signs on the building are not individual lite letters. These signs
resemble a cabinet sign where the letters are not individually mounted;
rather made part of a panel that has a white background. To be consistent
with other planned unit developments as well as recent commercial projects,
staff would recommend the proposed product signs be individual lite letters.
Planning Commission Recommendation
Highlights of the Planning Commission discussion on the proposed Menards
included the following topics:
· Hours of operation
· Type of metal material used on the screening structure
· Outdoor storage area in general
· Underground irrigation system
· Hours of operation and lighting
· Proposed materials for the yard gate canopy
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Memo to the Mayor and City Council/CU 96-2
April 11, 1996
· Proposed outdoor display for the yard barns and fences
· Landscaping in general
Page 5
The Planning Commission recommended approval of the conditional use
permit request by Menards, Inc. to construct a 160,680 sq. ft. facihty with the
conditions as outhned in the staff report dated March 26, 1996. Please refer
to the attached report for additional information.
Recommendation
It is recommended the City Council approve the conditional use permit
request by Menards, Inc. to construct a 160,680 sq. ft. retail facility in
Hillside Crossing II planned unit development with the following conditions:
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All staffs comments outhned in the report to the Planning Commission
dated March 26, 1996, be incorporated into the revised set of plans
prior to issuance of a building permit.
All the City Engineer's comments in the memo dated March 22, and
April 5, 1996, be incorporated into the development plans prior to
issuance of a building permit.
A grading and drainage plan be approved by the City Engineer prior to
issuance of a building permit.
Staff work with Menards in enhancing the landscape plan to be
consistent with the intent of the planned unit development.
Outdoor display and sales in front of the building be hmited to the 20'
x 90' yard barn display and fence display as proposed to be mounted to
the building. Any additional outdoor sales shall be approved by the
City Council.
An underground irrigation system be provided throughout all
landscaped areas including landscaped/traffic control islands.
All product wall signs shall consist of individual hte letters similar to
the signage in other planned unit developments.
Outdoor storage contained within the enclosed yard area shall not be
stacked higher than the screening structure.
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CONSULTING ENGINEERS File: 230-302-11
1326 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108
612-644-4389
1-800-888-2923
Fax: 612-644-9446
Mr. Steve Ach
City Planner
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
P.O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: MENARDS GRADING AND UTILITY PLAN
Dear Mr. Ach:
CIVIL ENGINEERING
ENVIRONMENTAL
MUNICIPAL
PLANNING
SOLID WASTE
STRUCTURAL
SURVEYING
TRAFFIC
TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRICAL/MECHANICAL
ENGINEERING:
HVAC
POWER DISTRIBUTION
SCADA
SYSTEM CONTROLS
We have now received the grading plan and utility plan for the proposed Menards facility
to be located in Hillside Crossing II addition. As you recall, when this item was before
the Planning Commission, we had not received either of these plan sheets. Having had
an opportunity to review the utility plan and to coordinate the easement needs with the
surveyor preparing the final plat for Hillside Crossing II, we find that the Menards site
utility plan is in accordance with the approved utility plan for the entire plat. The one
comment we would have is that the Menards utility plan indicates a 12-inch watermain
both in front of and behind the proposed facility. The approved utility plan for the
Hillside Crossing II developmem showed a 12-inch watermain in from of the Menards
Store and a smaller diameter watermain looping around the rear of the facility. We
assume that the 12-inch indicated behind the Menards facility is an error, and we will
proceed assuming that it will be of a smaller diameter.
The grading plan fro the Menards site is in accordance with the overall grading plan for
the Hillside Crossing II development, with a couple of minor exceptions. One of these
areas in question is the extreme northeast corner of the site. The Menards grading plan
shows elevations in this location approximately 11/2 feet lower than the approved grading
plan indicated for the street just north of this area. If the grades inside the Menards yard
cannot be raised at all, this would indicate that approximately 11/2 feet of fill material will
be retained on the north side of the fence around their yard. The street itself in this area
north of their site cannot be lowered down to the proposed elevation inside their fence due
to the topography of the remainder of the Hillside development further to the east and
north.
OFFICES IN:
MINNEAPOLIS
PRIOR LAKE
ST. PAUL
WASECA
The other area in question is the northwest corner of their site. The overall grading plan
for the development had the contours wrapping around their parking lot along the right-of-
way line to match the street. Their proposed grading plan shows them running directly
An Equal Opportunity Employer
Mr. Steve Ach
April 8, 1996
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to the north property line. This would result in approximately a 5-foot difference in
elevation between their parking lot and the street in this location. We are contacting the
engineer who prepared the Menards site to see how this difference can be worked out. We
are confident that there can be a workable solution arrived at which will allow for
reasonable grades within the Menards parking lot and the street section at this location.
If you have any questions regarding any of these comments, please call.
Sincerely,
MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
Terry J.~Maurer, P.E.
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MEMORANDUM
ITEM 6.1.
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
Planning Commi ssion
Steven B. Ach, City Planner.S._
March 26, 1996
Conditional Use Permit Request by
Menards, Inc., Public Hearing Case
No. CU 96-2
Request
Menards, Inc. is requesting a conditional use permit for site plan approval to
construct a 160,680 square foot commercial building in Hillside Crossing II.
Location
The southeast corner of Highway 169 and 197th Avenue.
Zoning/Land Use
PUD (Planned Unit Development) / HB (Highway Business)
Attachments
· Memo from the City Engineer dated 3/22/96
· Location Map
· Zoning Map
· Letter from the Fire Chief
· Letter from the Police Department
· Letter from Resident
· Letter from Menards regarding parking
· Development sign
· Development plans
Project Overview
Menards, Inc. is proposing a 160,680 square foot facility in the Hillside
Crossing II planned unit development. The project is located on an
13065 Orono Parkway · P.O. Box 490 · Elk River, MN 55330 · (612) 441-7420 · Fax: (612) 441-7425
Memo to Planning Commission/CU 96-2
March 26, 1996
The Menards store will have its floor area divided up in the following
fashion:
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Sales area - 104,370 sq. ft.
Receiving area - 13,410 sq. ft.
Warehouse - 42,900 sq. ft.
Surrounding the building on the south, east and north side will be a 14 foot
high wall constructed of 2'x 8' vertical wood siding and a pre-finished metal
roof extending towards the interior of the storage area. On the inside of this
wall will be a series of racks to accommodate product (i.e., lumber and other
products) storage. This fenced-in storage area will be completely secured
with customer control at the southwest corner of the building. The fire chief
has also asked for a emergency access point into the storage area at the
northwest corner. However, that access will be secured at all times except in
the event of an emergency, whereby the access may be utilized.
Traffic/Access/Park ing
Two curb cuts are proposed off of Evans Avenue, both of which are consistent
with the development plans that were approved for Hillside Crossing II. The
southerly access is slightly larger to allow convenient semi traflSc
accessibility, as well as customers leaving the site following their pick up of
lumber and other home improvement supplies from the yard storage area.
The site plan includes a total of 410 parking stalls (including handicap) as
recommended by the Planning Commission. As discussed in the staffs
previous report to the Planning Commission, the parking stalls proposed by
Menards is less than the City's standards for retail space. Typically retail
space is required to have one space for every 200 square feet of floor area.
Menards' proposal provides parking based on a ratio of one stall for every 255
square feet of retail (104,370 square feet) space. Attached is a letter from
Menards outlining the number stalls that have been provided at other stores.
The Police Department has also included a memo referencing the parking
issue.
Outdoor Display
The proposed site plan illustrates a 20' x 90' yard barn display area at the
northwest corner of the building. In addition to this yard barn display area,
Menards will also be proposing to have various fence displays attached to the
front face of the building between the northwest corner of the building and
the main entrance to the building. There is no additional outdoor display
proposed for the sidewalk areas along the front of the building. The
Planning Commission may want to discuss whether these outdoor display
areas should occur in the areas proposed or be relocated either within the
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Memo to Planning Commission/CU 96-2
March 26, 1996 Page 3
yard storage area or at another location on site. Relocating the yard barn
display area will provide additional opportunity for impervious landscaped
areas. If the barn display remains at its proposed location a ten foot setback
will need to be established.
Site Plan Review
Staff has reviewed the proposed site plans submitted by Menards and would
offer the following comments:
Site Plan
The perimeter screening structure (14 ft. wall) will need to maintain a
10 ft. setback from the property line. As presented the setback
appears to be met.
If the outdoor yard barn display area is to occur at its proposed
location, it will need to be set back 10 feet from the property ]~e.
Parking and Circulation
The southerly access off of Evans Avenue should have a width no
greater than 36 feet. The curb cut radius' onto Evans Avenue can be
increased to improve the turning movements for both semi trn~c and
customer traffic.
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Traffic control/landscaped islands will need to be provided throughout
the parking area. These locations are generally at the ends of every
other parking row, with the exception of islands being provided at the
end of each parking row along the northerly entrance into the site.
Revised plans should include a typical parking stall detail with
dimensions for staff review.
Parking area will need to be bound with B612 concrete curb and
gutter.
Refuse Collection
Menards has indicated that all of their refuse collection will occur
within the enclosed yard area; therefore, no screened enclosures will
be necessary.
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Memo to Planning Commission/CU 96-2
March 26, 1996
Fire Protection
Page 4
An emergency access will need to be provided just north of the
northwest corner of the Menards building, providing a secondary
access to the enclosed yard storage area. This access can be secured at
all times with the exception of emergency events where the access may
be utilized.
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Fire hydrant locations will need to be identified and included as part
of the final set of plans. These locations will need to be verified and
approved by the fire chief.
"No Parking Fire Lane" signs will need to be provided primarily along
the west side of the building and possible other locations throughout
the site. Once again, the exact location and spacing of these signs will
need to be coordinated with the fire chief.
* Please see attached memo from the fire chief dated March 8, 1996.
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The quantity of landscaping proposed on site meets the City's
ordinances. However, staff would recommend having the number
slightly increased to improve the buffering to the east residential area,
as well as increasing some additional landscaping along Evans
Avenue.
In talking with Menards apparently a typical under~ound irrigation
system will not be provided; however, Menards will be installing a
system that they have utilized in their other facilities.
The proposed landscaping along 196th Avenue will have to be placed
outside of the right-of-way.
It is recommended that additional landscaping be provided in the
southeast corner of the site to improve the buffering to the residential.
There may be some existing trees that are saved immediately south of
the proposed building. If this is to occur, obviously the landscaping
plan will need to be revised.
All of the traffic/landscaped islands in the parking lot should include
landscaping as shown on a typical landscape island detail on the
proposed plans.
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Memoto Planning Commission/CU 96-2
March 26, 1996
Page 5
As part of the planned unit development, a landscaping theme has
been utilized within Hillside Crossing I and is proposed to continue
into the Hillside Crossing II. These themes will need to be
incorporated along Evans Avenue and at the entrance points to the
Menards facility.
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Size of proposed landscaped material will need to meet the City's
performance standards. Overstory trees will need to be a minimum of
two inches in diameter and conifers 6 feet in height.
Building Materials
The building is proposed to be pre-cast concrete insulated wall panels
with a decorative smooth band along the front entrance (west
elevation) of the building. It is recommended that an attempt be made
to incorporate common architectural elements that may be
implemented throughout the planned unit development.
Signage
As shown on the proposed plans Menards will have eight product
identification signs along the west elevation of their building, along
with a red neon internally lit '~Menards" sign between the entrance
and exit. In addition, an internally lit "Welcome" sign will also be
provided between the entrance and exit to the building.
No signage will be used on the north, east or south elevations of the
building.
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Free-standing sign will be limited to the project development sign as
approved as part of the planned unit development. See attachment A.
Drainage and Utilities
The City Engineer will be reviewing the grading and utility plan. At
the time of this memo a grading plan had not been submitted.
Recommendation
It is recommended the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
conditional use permit request for site plan review by Menards, Inc. to
construct a 160,680 sq. ft. facility with the following conditions:
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Memo to Planning Commission/CU 96-2
March 26, 1996
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All of staffs comments outlined in the report to the Planning
Commission dated March 25, 1996, be incorporated into the revised set
of plans prior to issuance of a building permit.
All of the City Engineer's comments in the memo dated March 22,
1996, be incorporated into the development plans prior to issuance of a
building permit.
All outdoor storage and display along the front of the building shall be
approved by the City Council.
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CON~IiLTEG EGINEERg March 22, 1996
File: 230-302-11
1326 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108
612-644-4389
1-800-888-2923
Fax: 612-64a-9~6
Mr. Steve Ach
City Planner
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
P.O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: MENARDS SITE PLAN REVIEW
Dear Mr. Ach:
CIVIL ENGINEERING:
ENVIRONMENTAL
/:""'h MUNIC PAL
· ~ PLANNING
SOLID WASTE
STRUCTURAL
SURVEYING
TRAFFIC
TRANSPORTATION
As requested, we have reviewed the site plan for the proposed Menards facility to be
located in the Hillside Crossing II development. The site plan we received was prepared
by Menards and dated February 20, 1996. As of the date of this memo, we have not
received a drainage and utility plan or any drainage calculations. Based on our review,
we would offer the following comments:
ELECTRICAL/MECHANICAL 2.
ENGINEERING:
HVAC
POWER DISTRIBUTION
SCADA
3.
SYSTEM CONTROLS
One of the proposed driveway entrances off of Evans Avenue is shown as 40 feet
wide. The ordinance limits commercial driveways to 30 feet. Unless a reason can
be shown to allow a wider driveway, we would recommend that the driveway be
reduced to 30 feet and larger radii used to facilitate turning movements of trucks.
The plantings shown around the perimeter of the site Will generally fall in the
drainage and utility easements. This may cause a slight conflict with the placement
of utilities in these easements.
The sign located in the southwest corner of the site will also fall within the
drainage and utility easement.
The parking stalls located along the south line near the west end are undesirable,
given the traffic expected to be entering and exiting the yard at that point.
Additional concrete islands should be placed on the east end of the parking lanes
to delineate the parking from the drive isles.
OFFICES IN:
MINNEAPOLIS
PRIOR LAKE
ST. PAUL
The Fire Chief has reviewed the site and indicated his desire for an additional
emergency entrance into the yard at the north side of the building. This will
require some reconfiguration of the yard barn display, landscaping in this area, and
parking.
WASECA
An Equal Opportunity Employer
Mr. Steve Ach
March 22, 1996
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I have had a number of conversations with the engineer working on the grading,
drainage, and utility plan for this site. From these conversations, I am reasonably
confident that the plan when submitted will comply with the overall grading,
drainage, and utility plan for the Hillside Crossing II development.
If you have any questions regarding any of these comments, please call.
Sincerely,
MSA, CONSULTING ENGINEERS
TJM:tw
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Steve Ach
Bruce A. West
Fire Chief
DATE:
March 8, 1996
SUBJECT: Menards, Elk River Minnesota
Proposed Site Plan
After review of the Menards proposed site plan, and with discussion during
staff review, I have a few comments that I would like to make reference to at
this time.
Designated no parking fire lane area. The entire westside of the
Menards complex which entails the front elevation or entrance area
shall be designated a "no parking fire lane" area. This includes the
entire west area north to south side.
Emergency access in the northwest corner of the complex near the
yard barn display area. After review of the site layout plan, one of my
concerns is access to the west side of the building in an emergency
situation. A gate added to the northwest corner chainlink fence near
the yard barn display, would allow emergency vehicles access to all
area of the Menarcls complex. This gate could be locked at all times
with accessibility only in an emergency situation for Police or Fire. We
would like to see a gate with a fourteen foot clear opening in this area.
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After review of the hydrant locations surrounding the complex, I have
one change or concern referencing the hydrant in the southwest corner
by the yard gate canopy. I would like to see the hydrant moved from
the present proposed location along the parking stall area east into the
landscape island and landscape planter area. The remaining hydrant
locations have been reviewed and are acceptable at this time.
If you have any questions referencing the issues raised, please feel free to
give me a call at the Elk River Fire Department 441-4919.
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13065 Orono Parkway · P.O. Box 490 · Elk River, MN 55330 · (612) 441-7420 · Fax: (612) 441-7425
'Elk Rive From:
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Police Department Subject:
Memorandum '-
Steve Ach, City Planner
Michelle Masica/Cheryll Edinger
March 8, 1996
Menards Future Site
Cheryll and I have a few questions regarding the site plan. We
were wondering how high the chain link fence is going to be. We
also checked one of our reference books on parking and the book
recommended 600 parking stalls for the size of the retail store.
We are not sure what the city codes require.
We also were looking at the parking lot lighting. We would like
to recommend that some changes be made. We feel that certain
spots will not have adequate lighting due to the positions of
light poles.
Our last question is about the landscape planter. The plan shows
it will be 5' high and have shrubs. With the barn display behind
it, we feel this may obstruct natural surveillance.
If you would like further explanations on any of our
recommendations, feel free to contact one of us.
13065 Orono Parkway · P.O. Box 723 · Elk River, MN 55330 · (612) 441-2324 · Fax (612) 441-8937
Planning Department
Elk River City Hall
PO Box 490
Elk River, MN. 55330
Cheryl Becker
11452 197th Avenue NW
Elk River, MN. 55330
Attention Debbie Kleckner and Planning Commission,
I would like this information to be in the packet that
goes to the Planning Commission prior to the M~rch 26, 1996
meeting concerning the M~nnards Project P96-1. Please address
this at the meeting. I have to writa this because with my
business and other obligations with my children I cannot always
make it to the meeting.
I was at the public hearing with the Council on March llth.
My house is only 40 feet from where the Mast line of the project
intersects my back property line. My home sits on the South
side of 197th and only 30 feet from the back property line
which is a common property line for the project.
At the Council meeting on March llth it was decided:
1. The "trail corridor" be removed because there shouldn't
be public walkways across backyards of residences and because
of how close it was to my back door.
2. The 75 foot no-cut strip on the North end of the project
was then decreased to 50 feet without knowledge to me or the
Council of how close this puts the parking lot to my house.
3. The developer was able to decrease the footage of 25 feet
to 10 feet from the no-cut strip to start his parking lot for
this Outlot w_~ knowledge to the Council or me how much
closer this put the parking to my house.
Therefore, a parking lot with cars and public will be only 90
feet from my hous~ and only 50 feet from my back property line.
I am extremenly happy with the trail corridor being removed
but decreasing the no-cut strip and increasing his parking
lot puts the public right back only 90 feet from my house
and only 50 feet from my property line. The developer
· gained 40 feet on the north side of his Outlot B, and I still
~ave the public ~d now the outio~, ~uzidzng
~o~-~-~t an. , a~g closer
I run a daycare and have done so for 10 years. I am very
concerned about the children wandering off, following strangers,
or disappearing. The state will require me to put up a fence
for the safety of the children.
As for my home and privacy, I do not want the public so
close with easy access to my property for vandalis~ theft,
and crime.
Suggestions:
1. Increase the North no-cut strip back to the 75 feet that
it was origionally set for. This would help me with my privacy
and by business and the w~rry for the safety of the children.
I was established here first and the~ developer ~greed to this
before. It was changed by the Council and developer without
the Council or myself knowing how close the intersection of
this project was to my home.
2. As a neighborhood this 75 foot no-cut strip verses the 50
foot helps us as homeowners so we do not have to look at backs
of buildings, parking lots, lights, parked cars and dumpsters.
! feel we were here first and this re-zoning occured afterwards.
If I knew this re-zoning was going to happen and this project
was coming in, I wouldn't have purchased this property nor
built in this neighborhood.
A~ a single mom raising three children, maintaining my home and
running my daycare business, I am asking for your help in this
situation and with these issues. I do not have funds available
to put up a fence for the safety of the children and for my
privacy that is. being taken away, and I feel I have been put
in jeapardy for vandalism, and crime with the public having close
access to my property, and my daycare business is being infinged
upon.
Thank you for your time in reading this and addressing these
'issues.
Very concerned,
February2,1996
Mr. Steve Ach
City of Elk River
13065 Orono Parkway
P. O. Box 490
Elk River, MN 55330
RE: Par-king requirements for the proposed Menards store, Elk River, MN
Dear Mr. Ach:
Menards parking needs are not as high as most of the typical major retailers. Our use is
somewhat different, our aisles tend to be wider, our products tend to be bulkier and our outdoor storage
area is larger.
I am prm4ding you with an updated store list of Menards old and n~w prototype stores. The list
indicates the number of available parking stalls at each location and the store opening date. As you can
see fi.om the list, the number of parking stalls we are proposing for Elk River is consistent with the
number of available par-king stalls at our other locations.
The total square footage of the new prototype store is 160,680 square feet. But, not all of that
is actual sales area. Only 104,370 square feet is sales area with the remainder consisting of 42,900
square feet of unheated warehouse area and 13,410 square feet of receiving area. The old prototype
store had about 60,000 square feet of sales area and about 50,000 square feet of warehouse and
receiving area.
It should be noted that at any one time, during business hours, we've found that appro.ximately
25% of our customers are in the outdoor storage area with their vehicles pie'king up products they
purchased in the store and not parked in the front par'king lot.
Finally, keep in mind that we do not receive the mad Christmas rush that most retailers count
on. These retailers design their parking lots mainly around this one month of file year. Our busier times
are a little more spread out, generally occurring in file spring and fall.
Thank you for your consideration in tltis matter.
Sincerely,
Senior Project Manager
Menard, Inc.
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Menards .Home Improvement Centers
Available Parking
Proto _type III (160,000 s.f.)
Location
Appleton, WI
Batavia, IL
Bellevue, NE
Bellevue, WI
Cottage Grove, M2q
Dolton, IL
Eau Claire West, WI
Fox Lake, IL
Madison, WI
Minot, ND
Onaiaska, WI
Stefling~ IL
Ankeny, IA
Bradley, IL
Cedar Rapids, IA
Chicago, IL
Council Bluffs, IA
Elkhart, IN
Fond du Lac, WI
Goshen, IN
Grand Island, NE
Grand Rapids, M~
Gurnee, IL
Hudson, WI
Indianapolis North, IN
Indianapolis South, IN
Iowa City, IA
Machesney Park, IL
Mason City, IA
Matteson, IL
Mishawaka, IN
Norfolk, NE
Norton Shores, MI
403
407
411
422
405
426
415
397
444
401
407
417
Prototype~II (145,000 s.f.)
298
343
356
249
319
319
350
327
335
374
317
317
363
311
319
363
330
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339
323
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12-15-94
8-10-95
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12-22-95
8-03 -95
1-5-95
3-16-95
1-26-95
3-94
6-30-94
2-94
3-94
9-1-94
10-19-95
12-15-94
4-28-94
1-05-95
3-09-95
2-16-95
Sioux City, IA
Sioux Falls, SD
Springfield, IL
Urbandale, IA
Waterloo, IA
Waukesha, WI
Wausau, WI
West Allis, WI
West Burlington, IA
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228
232
211
198
248
221
236
249
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March 22, 1996
Letter to City Council,
Let me start this out by saying that I'm all for the Menards project. Just a couple of
issues I need to get of my chest.
gl-WOODLANDS. I hope the city council can come to a compromise with the
developer and find a way to preserve some of the natural beauty this plot contains. We
all know that the easiest way to build a development is to start from scratch. (NO
TREES-FLAT LOT). Well the easiest way isn't always the best. I understand that there
are'some elevation concerns involved, but with all the timber in there I would think some
trees match up with final grade; that aren't in the way of buildings. Also, why not save as
many trees possible along Hwy. 169? With the signs that will be on the highway
informing motorist of what is in the development, I don't believe knowing what is in
there will be a problem. Let's add to it's beauty by preserving it's beauty. If we continue
to destroy trees that have been around for 75 to 100 years, Elk River will have to hire a
forester to take care of all the small trees that take there place.
#2-TRAFFIC. I live three houses east of Hwy. 169 and on the north side of 197th Ave.
By adding 12,000 to 14,000 cars per day on this already busy residential street; you will
be increasing the number of people that think my driveway is some kind of turn-around
I suggest adding a right-in right-out off of 169. this would reduce traffic on 197th Ave. I
am aware of a deal that was made with MN-DOT that hampers city in adding this option.
but if city made that deal, why not make another one to allow this to happen? There are
several right-in right-outs along HWY. 10 at many businesses in Ramsey and Elk River.
There will also definitely have to be stoplight installed at HWY. 169 and 197th Ave. Just
try and get across 169 sometime on a Friday afternoon in the summer time. This has to
be one of the busiest highways for boats and campers I have seen. In my opinion we
need to try and develop to the east & west on Hwy. 10 in the future. If this trend of
building to the north on 169 continuesl we will have to install a walkway over the
highway just so our kids can cross safely.
JeffMeyer
11475 197th Ave.
Elk River
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Planning Commission Minutes Page 2
March 26, 1996
Staff report by Steve Ach. Menards, Inc. is requesting a conditional use permit
for site plan approval to construct a 160,680 square foot commercial building on
Lot 1, Block 1, Hillside Crossing II. The subject property is an 11 acre site locate at
the southeast corner of Highway 169 and 197th Avenue. The Menards site will
have access off Evans Street, which will extend from Sax Foods up to 197th
Avenue. Steve reviewed comments in the staff report relating to the site plan,
traffic, access, parking, fencing, outdoor display, fire protection, landscaping,
building materials, and signage. Steve noted 412 parking stalls have been
included, with 9 of them being handicapped accessible. Also, he noted staff
recommends a landscaping theme be continued throughout the PUD similar to
the Hillside Crossing I PUD.
Terry Maurer, City Engineer, indicated they have completed the grading and
utility plan for the Hillside Crossing II plat and have submitted the plans to the
engineer for Menards. He noted that he has received the plans back from
Menards and anticipates there will be no problems with compliance.
Commissioner Anderson asked the 14 foot fence will be made of wood.
Mary Prochaska, Engineer representing Menards, Inc., explained the fence will
be made of vertical 2' x 8' brown treated lumber.
Commissioner Sullivan asked when the lights shown near the fence will be lit. Mr.
Prochaska stated the lights will be lit during the hours the store is open. He
noted the lights have visual side cut-offs and should not be visible outside of the
fenced area.
Commissioner Minton asked for clarification regarding the yard barn display. Mr.
Prochaska stated the yard barns will be constructed, painted and decorated for
display at the north end of the site. Commissioner Minton asked if the proposed
metal cover for the storage racks located next to the fence would cause a
glare problem. Mr. Prochaska stated that he did not feel there would be a
problem, given the 14 ft. height of the fence.
Commissioner Anderson questioned if there would be any other outdoor
displays, other than the yard barns. Mr. Prochaska stated the various types of
fencing they sell will be displayed on the front of the building in the same area
as the yard ham display.
Commissioner Minton asked for clarification on the underground sprinkling
system. Mr. Prochaska explained that the system is an underground frost-free
type system which is hooked up to garden hoses. Commissioner Minton asked
questioned in some trees could be saved in the triangular shaped area. Steve
Ach stated it would not be possible due to the grading.
Commissioner Sullivan asked for clarification on Terry Maurer's comment
regarding the parking stalls n-~ar the yard entrance. Terry Maurer explained that
he felt customers may have a problem backing out of these stalls if there were a
Planning Commission Minutes
March 26, 1996 Page 3
line of cars waiting to access the yard. Mr. Prochaska stated these stalls will be
used primarily by the yard attendants and should not be a problem.
Commissioner Anderson asked if Menards planned to use speed bumps in the
parking Icl. Mr. Prochaska explained since the traffic will be entering off the
street and making parallel routes throughout the lot, he did not feel there would
be a problem.
Commissioner Minton asked if the Police Department concerns had been
addressed. Mr. Prochaska explained felt given the geomeffics of the plan, there
would not be a problem with lighting. Also, Mr. Prochaska stated the lighted
product signs on the wall of the building would be set on a time clock fo go off
approximately 1 hour after store closing.
Chair Dillon opened the public hearing. There being no comments from the
public, Chair Dillon closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Minton that two letters have been received which stated
concerns regarding the proposed Menards facility; one from Cheryl Becker and
one from Jeff Meyer.
Chair Dillon expressed his concern for hoses lying on the ground with the type of
sprinkling system proposed by Menards. Chair Dillon felt the City should require
the same type of sprinkling system for all developments to remain consistent.
Chair Dillon also expressed concern for the yard entrance canopy and felt some
type of building material which would be compatible to the Menards structure
should be used.
Discussion followed regarding the yard canopy, The Commissioners were in
general agreement they did not have a problem with the yard canopy as
proposed, with the exception of Chair Dillon.
Chair Dillon stated he felt the outdoor display should be located within the
outside storage yard. He noted Sox and Target requested outdoor displays and
were denied. Discussion followed regarding the location of the yard barn and
fencing display. Commissioner Sullivan stated she did not have a problem with
the yard barn display. She felt the type of storage was unique. Commissioner
Anderson stated when visiting other Menards stores, outdoor displays include
patio and lawn furniture, patio bdck and other items. Mr. Prochaska stated
those stores had chain link fencing around the outdoor storage display area for
security and this area would not; therefore, those items would not be displayed
in the yard barn display area. Chair Dillon questioned if the display area could
become a secudty issue in the future.
Commissioner Anderson concurred with staff's recommendation for additional
landscaping along the fence.
COMMISSIONER MINTON MOVED THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BY MENARDS, INC. FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL, PUBLIC HEARING CASE NO. CU 96-2, BASED ON THE
FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE CITY ENGINEER'S LETTER, AND THE FACT THERE
Planning Commission Minutes
March 26, 1996
Page 4
WAS NO OPPOSITION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS:
ALL OF STAFF'S COMMENTS OUTLINED IN THE REPORT TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION DATED MARCH 25, 1996, BE INCORPORATED INTO THE
REVISED SET OF PLANS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
o
ALL OF THE CITY ENGINEER'S COMMENTS IN THE MEMO DATED MARCH 22,
1996, BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS PRIOR TO
ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
ALL OUTDOOR STORAGE AND DISPLAY ALONG THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING
SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-1.
CHAIR DILLON OPPOSED.