06-10-2008 PC MINMEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT THE ELK RIVER CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JUNE 10, 2008
Members Present: Chair Westgaard, Commissioners Anderson, Austad, Lemke, Scott, Staul
and Westberg
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Planning Manager Jeremy Barnhart, Park Planner/Planner Chris Leeseberg,
Recording Secretary Debbie Huebner
Call Meeting To Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission
was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Chair Westgaard.
2. Consider June 10, 2008 Planning Commission Agenda
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER WESTGAARD TO APPROVE THE JUNE 10, 2008,
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONS:
6.1. UPDATE ON MAY 19, 2008 CITY COUNCIL MEETING BY
COMMISSIONER STAUL
6.2. PLANNING MANAGER'S ITEMS
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
3. Consider May 13, 2008 Planning Commission Minutes
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SCOTT AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER STAUL TO APPROVE THE MAY 13, 2008 PLANNING
COMMISSION MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
4. Commissioner to Attend June 16, 2008 City Council Meeting
Commissioner Staul will attend the June 16, 2008 City Council meeting.
5.1. Request by C & P Properties, LLC for Interim Use Permit for Additional Temporary
Classrooms. Case No. CU 08-11- Public Hearin
Mr. Leeseberg provided background information regarding the previous approval of an
Interim Use Permit for Spectrum School. He explained that the school must reach a student
population of 285 in order to be eligible for funding for their planned permanent facility.
He reviewed issues regarding access, noting that the applicant does not yet have control of
the needed property to shift the access to line up with Johnson Street. He stated that the
applicant will be required to provide the necessary access and turn lanes when the permanent
building is constructed.
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Chair Westgaard opened the public hearing.
Ed Youngquist, representing the applicant (C & P Properties, LLP) -stated that he is
working with Spectrum to address the future access, and he has been in phone contact with
the property owners regarding the necessary acquisition or easement for the required access.
There being no further public comment, Chair Westgaard closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Westgaard asked if the only change was the additional portable structures.
Mr. Leeseberg stated yes.
Commissioner Anderson noted that Condition #3 states Conditional Use Permit, and
should read "Interim Use Permit".
Commissioner Scott stated he had no concerns with the request. Commissioner Staul
concurred. He stated that the application is making an effort to grow in order to meet their
goals of a permanent school.
Commissioner Westberg asked if the request is for one temporary structure. Mr. Youngquist
explained that the buildings come in units. He stated that the new units have to be detached
from the existing temporary classrooms in order to meet fire codes. Commissioner
Westberg asked if Spectrum will need more units in order to reach their goal of 285 students.
Mr. Youngquist stated that they plan to add a total of 7 units; four this year and three next
year. The end units will be taken of the four units and the three additional units will be slid
in, and then the ends will be put back in place.
Commissioner Lemke suggested that Condition #7 be revised to read, "If a NPDES permit
is required, the applicant shall obtain the permit."
Mr. Barnhart stated that this approval will cover all seven units; four this year and three next
year, so no new approvals will be required.
Chair Westgaard asked if the final units next year will accommodate 285 students. Bob
Freeh, Assistant Administrator for Spectrum School, stated that he feel they will be very
close. He noted that they have begun the building process, and they are trying to be as
frugal as possible in order to meet their goals.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STAUL AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER WESTBERG TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY C & P PROPERTIES, LLP FOR AN INTERIM USE PERMIT
FOR TEMPORARY CLASSROOMS FOR SPECTRUM SCHOOL PER THE
STAFF REPORT AND INFORMATION PRESENTED AT THE MEETING,
WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. ALL COMMENTS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MEMO DATED
MAY 20, 2008 SHALL BE ADDRESSED.
2. ALL COMMENTS AND CONDITIONS OF THE SHERBURNE COUNTY
MEMO DATED MAY 13, 2008 SHALL BE ADDRESSED.
3. AN INTERIM USE PERMIT IS NOT A BUILDING PERMIT; THE
APPLICANT SHALL APPLY FOR ALL REQUIRED PERMITS.
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4. THE TEMPORARY ACCESS SHALL BE PERMITTED AS SHOWN UNTIL
ENROLLMENT REACHES 285 STUDENTS AND/OR WHEN THE
PERMANENT BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED. AT THAT TIME, A
PERMANENT ACDESS SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE JOHNSON
STREET ALIGNMENT WITH REQUIRED TURN LANES AS REQUIRED
BY SHERBURNE COUNTY.
5. IF ANY ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY CLASSROOMS ARE REQUIRED,
THE APPLICANT SHALL APPLY FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE
INTERIM USE PERMIT.
6. A WETLAND BUFFER OF 25 FEET SHALL APPLY TO ALL WETLANDS
AND A STRUCTURE SETBACK OF 20 FEET FROM THE BUFFER
APPLIES.
7. IF AN NPDES PERMIT IS REQUIRED, IT SHALL BE OBTAINED PRIOR
TO CONSTRUCTION.
8. A LETTER OF CREDIT IN THE AMOUNT OF 100% OF THE COST OF
THE LANDSCAPE, SITE STABILIZATION IMPROVEMENTS, TO A
MAXIMUM OF $50,000 SHALL BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO RELEASING
OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
9. THE INTERIM USE PERMIT SHALL EXPIRE ON JULY 1, 2010.
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
5.2. Reduest by Raymond Renner/Sharp & Associates for Preliminary Plat Approval enner 4~"
Additionl. Case No. P08-OS -Public Hearin
Mr. Barnhart reviewed the location, zoning, and layout of the subject property. He also
reviewed issues associated with the plat such as access, streets, park dedication, utilities
(septic and well) and landscaping. He stated that the request is consistent with the current
zoning and Comprehensive Plan, and that staff recommends approval of the request with
the eleven conditions listed in the staff report.
Chair Westgaard opened the public hearing. There being no public comment, Chair
Westgaard closed the public hearing.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LEMKE AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
REQUEST BY RAYMOND RENNER/SHARP & ASSOCIATES FOR
PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL OF RENNER 4TH ADDITION), CASE NO. P
08-05 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. ALL COMMENTS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR'S MEMO DATED
MAY 20, 2008 SHALL BE ADDRESSED.
2. ALL COMMENTS AND CONDITIONS OF THE CITY OF ELK RIVER
ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNICIAN'S MEMO DATED MAY 19, 2008 SHALL
BE ADDRESSED.
3. THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL MEET ALL APPLICABLE FIRE CODES.
THE FIRE CHIEF SHALL VERIFY THE LOCATION OF ALL FIRE
HYDRANTS, AND MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL HYDRANTS
NECESSARY TO PERSERVE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY.
4. IN ADDITION TO THE EASEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PRELIMINARY
PLAT, THE FOLLOWING EASEMENTS SHALL BE PROVIDED.
A. TEMPORARY CUL-DE-SAC
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B. UTILITY EASEMENTS FOR THE SHARED WELL
5. A NPDES PERMIT AND SWPPP PLAN ARE REQUIRED PRIOR TO FINAL
APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
6. AN ASSOCIATION SHALL BE ESTABLISHED FOR THE SHARED WELL
SYSTEM, IDENTIFYING AND SHARING MAINTENANCE AND USE
COSTS.
7. APPROVED STREET SIGNAGE PLAN SHALL BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO
FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.
8. PARK DEDICATION SHALL BE PROVIDED IN THE FOLLOWING
MANNER:
A. IN THE FORM OF CASH FOR FOUR ACRES (AT THE RATE
APPLICABLE AT THE TIME OF FINAL PLAT RELEASE (2008
RATE $3,320/ACRE).
9. A LETTER OF CREDIT IN THE AMOUNT OF 100% OF THE COST OF
THE IMPROVEMENTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE
RELEASING OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR RECORDING.
10. ALL REQUIRED SUBDIVISION/PARK INFORMATION SHALL BE
PROVIDED IN AN ELECTDRONIC FORMAT (.DWG FILE) AS
REQUIRED BY THE CITY ORDINANCE AND LAND USE APPLICATION
PRIOR TO RECORDING OF THE PLAT.
11. THIS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT SHALL EXPIRE AFTER
1 YEAR, UNLESS THE PROPERTY OWNER OR OWNER'S AGENT HAS
SUBMITTED A FINAL PLAT OR LETTER OF REQUEST FOR
EXTENSION.
MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
5.3. Request by Earl Hohlen for Site Plan Review (Zane Street Commons) Case No P 07-09 -
Public Hearin
Mr. Barnhart reviewed items covered in the staff report regarding location, zoning,
easements, access, parking, elevations, signage, and landscaping. He noted that proposal is
consistent with the Elk River Crossing Planned Unit Development Agreement regulations.
Commissioner Staul asked if Great River Energy is the only utility easement. Mr. Barnhart
stated that their easement is the only one staff is aware of at this time, but that the condition
could be revised to cover others by using the language, "necessary parties".
Commissioner Westberg asked if the area is part of the corridor for the gas line to the future
peaking plant. MR. Barnhart stated that the area is likely part of the improvement.
Chair Westgaard opened the public hearing.
Tim Gillette of Hagermeister, representing the applicant -explained that the easement
is across Parcel #2 and that the easement does not inhibit the site plan. He stated that the
upgrade to the transmission lines does not affect the property, since it is along the very south
boundary of the property. He noted that Great River Energy has given their preliminary
approval.
Commissioner Scott stated that he felt that some extra effort should be made to architectural
components, especially in the backs of buildings, in order to complement the Carson
Business Park across Highway 169. Commissioner Staul concurred, stating that this area is
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the first thing motorists see when entering Elk River.
Commissioner Westgaard stated he would hesitate including a condition that Great River
Energy (GRE) vacate their easement, since there may be alternatives there are not aware of.
He suggested that the item could be tabled until the city receives formal input from Great
River Energy. Commissioner Staul concurred. He stated that staff and the Commission
may not be aware of all the options GRE may have to work with the applicant. Mr.
Barnhart stated that the purpose of the condition is to give due respect to GRE, since they
may be able to vacate only the portion required for the site plan. He noted that the city did
receive a letter from GRE stating that based on their preliminary review, they had no
problem with the request.
Wally Hohlen, representing Zane Street Commons -noted that there are no issues with
easement in Phase 1, only Phase 2. He noted that the guide lines on GRE's poles are out of
the easement area.
Commissioner Anderson stated that issues could be addressed in Phase 2 when the request
comes forward for a conditional use permit and platting. He stated he concurred with
Commissioner Scott's comments regarding aesthetics of the buildings, but felt motorists may
be more focused on the future peaking plant.
Commissioner Westberg suggested that some improvements could be made to the garage
door-type entrances.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SCOTT AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LEMKE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST
BY EARL HOHLEN FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW OF ZANE STREET
COMMONS, CASE NO. SP 08-08, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. ALL COMMENTS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MEMO DATED
MAY 22, 2008 SHALL BE ADDRESSED.
2. ALL COMMENTS AND CONDITIONS OF CITY ENVIRONMENTAL
TECHNICIAN MEMO DATED MAY 19, 2008 SHALL BE ADDRESSED.
3. THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL MEET ALL APPLICABLE FIRE CODES.
THE FIRE CHIEF SHALL VERIFY THE LOCATION OF ALL FIRE
HYDRANTS, AND MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL HYRANTS NECESSARY
TO PRESERVE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY.
4. VACATION OF EASEMENTS BY THE NECESSARY PARTIES TO ALLOW
THE SITE PLAN AS PROPOSED.
5. PROVISION OF EASEMENT TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO TRIANGULAR
OUTLOT TO THE SOUTH.
6. PROVISION OF AN EASEMENT TO PERMIT THE ENCROACHMENT
OF PARKING ON CITY PROPERTY.
7. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (CUP) APPROVAL, INCORPORATING
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY INTO THE PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN (ALLOWING THE REDUCED
PARKING LOT SETBACK), AND ALLOWING THE SIGNAGE AS
PROPOSED.
8. FINAL PLATTING OF THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE PAYMENT
OF PARK DEDICATION AND OTHER FEES.
9. PROVISION OF A LANDSCAPE PLAN PER THE REQUIREMETNS OF
SECTION 30-934.
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MOTION CARRIED 6-0.
5.4. Request by Scott Powell for Ordinance Amendment Regarding Menu Board Signs for Non-
Restaurant Businesses. Case No. OA 08-05 -Public Hearin
Mr. Barnhart stated that the proposed ordinance amendment would allow other any business
with adrive-up/walk-up window to have a menu board. Staff recommends approval of the
amendment as submitted in the staff report.
Commissioner Staul asked if the ordinance has a definition for menu boards. Mr. Barnhart
stated yes.
Commissioner Westberg asked if pharmacies could have a menu board. Mr. Barnhart stated
yes. Commissioner Lemke asked if a bank drive-thru would be included. Mr. Barnhart's
response was affirmative, also.
Chair Westgaard opened the public hearing.
Stephen Rohlf, representing the applicant, Scott Powell -stated that there are four
other carwashes that have menu boards.
Commissioner Staul stated that his only concern that it may be too broad to allow all
businesses with drive-up/walk-up windows to have menu boards. He suggested that they
express this concern to the City Council in the minutes. Mr. Barnhart stated that it would be
more appropriate to take the Planning Commission's comments and present a revised
ordinance amendment to the City Council. Commissioner Anderson stated that he felt the
ordinance should limit menu boards to restaurants and carwashes, and they could look at
including other businesses after looking at the issue further. Commissioners Westberg and
Staul concurred.
Commissioner Lemke questioned whether or not businesses would use the menu board as
advertising. Mr. Barnhart stated that the intent is to limit the use to listing items/services for
purchase.
Commissioner Staul stated he was in favor of being more conservative.
Mr. Rohlf stated that the purpose of the menu board is to identify products and help move
customers through the line more quickly, and that he felt the purpose was similar for
restaurants and carwashes.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STAUL AND SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LEMKE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REQUEST BY SCOTT POWELL
REGARDING MENU BOARD SIGNS FOR NON-RESTAURANT BUSINESSES,
CASE NO. OA 08-05, AS FOLLOWS:
G. ONE ON-PREMISE MENU BOARD PER DRIVE-UP OR WALK-UP LAND
OF A DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT OR CARWASH UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 32
SQUARE FEET EACH. MENU BOARDS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A
MESSAGE ON ONE SIDE ONLY AND MAY NOT CONTAIN AN
ADVERTISING MESSAGE.
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MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
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5.5. Reduest by City of Elk River for Ordinance Amendment Regarding Placement of Black Dirt,
Public Hearing -Case No. OA 08-06
Mr. Barnhart stated that staff is completing its review of a proposed ordinance to require
placement of topsoil in an effort to conserve water, which has been prepared by the Elk
River Utilities Cotmnission. He explained that the item was advertised and therefore, it is
necessary for the Planning Commission to open and continue the public hearing to the July
8, 2008 Planning Commission meeting.
Chair Westgaard opened the public hearing.
Stephen Rohlf -stated that he questioned how such an ordinance could be enforced. He
stated that he felt the purpose of planning was to address health, safety and welfare and that
sometimes regulations can be too restrictive.
MOTINO BY COMMISSIONER LEMKE AND SECONDED BY
COMMISIIONER AUSTAD TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
TABLE THE REQUEST FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, CASE OA 08-
06, TO THE JULY 8, 2008 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
6.1. Update on May 19. 2008 City Council Meeting
Commissioner Staul provided an update on the May 19, 2008 City Council meeting.
6.2. Planning Manager's Items
Mr. Barnhart introduced Jeff Gongoll, Community Development Director. He noted that
Senior Planner Sheila Cartney has left the City of Elk River to take a job with the City of
Columbia Heights.
Adiournment
There being no other business, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON MOVED TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING.
The meeting of the Elk River Planning Commission adjourned at 8:22 p.m
Submitted by,
Debbie Huebner
Tina Allard, Cary Clerk