02-18-2009 ECC MINMEETING OF THE ELK RIVER
ENERGY CITY COMMISSION
HELD AT ELK RIVER CITY HALL
ELK RIVER, MN
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 2009
Members Present: Vance Zehringer, Maureen Griffiths, Todd Berreman, Denny Chuba, Martin
Gagliardi, Stephen Rohlf, Bruce Sayler, John Setala, Scott Hagen and Mayor
Stephanie Klinzing
Members Absent: Susie Overholser and Ron Touchette
Staff Present: Rebecca Haug, Environmental Administrator
Nicola (Nicki) Blake-Bradley, Environmental Technician
Others Present: Diane Windingland, Energy Cost Cutters
Kim Windingland, Energy Cost Cutters
Paul Steffes, Energy Cost Cutters
Rob Rydberg, Energy Cost Cutters
The regular meeting of the Energy City Commission was called to order by Chair Zehringer at 1:32
p.m. Commissioner Setala questioned whether there were still positions open on the Commission
because he would have a person that is interested in participating. There are no positions currently
open.
1. Consider February 18, 2009 ECC Agenda
No changes were made to the agenda. The agenda was accepted as submitted. The position of
the presentation by Energy Cost Cutters was moved up to allow them to speak before elections.
2. Consider January 21, 2009 ECC Minutes
Chair Zehringer had several changes to make to the minutes. Three participants in Project
Conserve did not have infrared tests done because they are not Centerpoint Energy customers.
ERMU will contract with the same firm that conducted the others and pay for it out of CIP
(Conservation Improvement Program) funds. The final participant copy will be brought to the next
meeting for Chair Zehringer's signature (now required for document retention).
3. Enercty Cost Cutters Presentation
Mr. Kim Windingland was present to discuss his company and its goals to the committee. First he
thanked the Commission for its efforts. The mission of his company is to reduce energy use for
commercial companies without sacrificing comfort. They have a comprehensive energy savings
package and their goal is to have a payback period of three years. A free audit is included. They
review lights, HVAC, and intensive energy use machines. He gave examples of lighting projects
where the lighting levels were increased and operating costs were reduced.
Mr. Paul Steffes also spoke regarding the company. He discussed changes at Target, Inc. and
described microturbines. He reported that the company helped Cub Foods improve lighting while
reducing energy use by up to 75%.
Commissioner Berreman questioned whether they just worked on lights or whether there were
other areas of savings as well. Mr. Steffes stated that other areas were addressed as well. He
discussed issues including energy recovery ventilation systems and occupancy sensors.
Following the presentation, those present from Energy Cost Cutters left the meeting.
Commissioner Griffiths entered at 2:10 p.m.
A comment was made that the presentation was too long and was very "commercial". Much of Mr.
Steffen's presentation was likely too in-depth for most commissioners and staff members.
4. Elections of Officers
Mayor Klinzing nominated Chair Zehringer to remain in the Chair position. Chair Zehringer stated
that one more year would likely work. Commissioner Chuba seconded the nomination. No other
nominations were brought forth. Nominations for Chair were closed.
Mayor Klinzing nominated Commissioner Setala to remain as Vice Chair. Commissioner
Berreman seconded the nomination. No other nominations for Vice Chair were brought forth.
Nominations were closed.
Voting for both positions at once resulted in both Chair Zehringer and Commissioner Setala being
carried forth as Chair and Vice Chair for 2009.
5. "Protect Conserve" Update
Before discussion of Project Conserve, Chair Zehringer stated that the compact fluourescent
lamps (CFCs) given out at the Energy Expo are high power factor, low mercury lamps. He had to
special order these lamps. CFCs sold at area stores are typically higher mercury, lower power
than those given away at the Expo. Low power factor CFCs are becoming a concern for electric
utilities.
An article on Project Conserve was in the Star News, giving good coverage and looking great.
The paper has agreed to do weekly tips on conservation.
Mayor Klinzing questioned whether the Commission recommends audit firms for people in Project
Conserve or the public. Chair Zehringer stated that there are at least five other firms which do
energy audits like Energy Cost Cutters and there is no way that one is supported over any others.
He added that ERMU and other utilities also do energy audits for residents and walk-through
energy assessments for commercial customers as well. Commissioner Berreman added a
caution regarding energy audit firms. Environmental Administrator Haug suggested giving the tip
to the Star News to add as a tip.
The next Project Conserve meetings are scheduled for February 26 and 28. The group is still very
energized. Joni Astrup is following the Harvey family and it might be interesting to have one of the
Harvey children do a presentation.
Environmental Administrator Haug and Chair Zehringer attended the CERT (Clean Energy
Resource Team) conference in St. Cloud, MN as speakers regarding Project Conserve. The
CERT committee would like to highlight the ECC and Project Conserve in April.
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The next meeting will focus on improving energy efficiency in homes (building inspectors are
scheduled to attend and assist with questions). The energy audit results and indoor air quality
issues will also be discussed.
6. 2009 Energv Expo
Sponsors are still needed and exhibitor openings are still available. Environmental Administrator
Haug stated that a script is being put together which will be distributed to all commissioners to
help with contacting potential exhibitors. A grant proposal was put together for Sherburne County
and will not be known yet until March.
7. Energv City Commission Ordinance Amendment
Environmental Administrator Haug discussed possible amendment changes. The commission is
composed of 15 members of which 5 come up for re-election every three years. Commissioner
Rohlf expressed concern that every effort be made to include District 728. A question was posed
as to whether a representative from Twin Lakes Elementary might be interested in being a
commissioner.
Commissioner Chuba suggested using terminology such as "up to" 7 and "up to" 2 for a maximum
of 15 members. Commissioner Rohlf suggested the ordinance is perhaps not flexible enough.
Environmental Administrator Haug stated there is no deadline for submission of the amendment.
All commissioners were opposed to taking the amendment to the City Council as it currently is
written.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROHLF AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHUBA TO HAVE
STAFF REVISE THE ORDINANCE FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY. ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION
CARRIED.
8. Energv Policy Update
Mayor Klinzing, Environmental Administrator Haug and Chair Zehringer met with the CEP
(Citizens' Energy Plan) group from Willmar. This group wants to have a national energy plan
ready for consideration for Congress by September, 2010. The grass-roots group already has
consultants and members from electrical coops in western MN. Mayor Klinzing, Environmental
Administrator Haug and Chair Zehringer have been asked to share what has been done by the
Energy City Commission at their Energy Summit (noon luncheon). Others can register for the
energy summit (cost is $50). Commissioner Rohlf expressed concern about policies being set.
CEP would like to come and speak to the Energy City Commission. Commissioners expressed
concern regarding another "commercial". Commissioner Setala stated he would be interested
to hear what they want to do.
9. Foreclosure Situation
ERMU (Elk River Municipal Utilities) is developing a plan and ordinance concerning
foreclosure properties. There are currently 229 foreclosures in Elk River alone. Six are known
to have flooded (1.4 million gallons of water were used in one house alone before the situation
was caught). There is a moratorium on shutting off electricity until the water is shut off. Most of
these homes were empty during the summer and the electricity was not turned on again (but
water was never shut off and winterizing wasn't done). Connexus energy has a limiter (allows
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one 15 amp line) so the furnace blower can operate. Discussion followed that the utilities have
to coordinate this.
10. Other
No other items were brought for discussion.
11. Schedule Next ECC Meeting (March 18) and Identify Agenda Items
The next regularly scheduled meeting for the energy city commission will be on March 18,
2009 at 1:30 p.m. in the Uppertown Conference Room. Topics for the meeting include updates on
foreclosures, energy policy committee, Project Conserve, and the Energy Expo. The next Expo
subcommittee meeting will be held on March 10th at 10:30 a.m.
12. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 3:12 p.m.
Minute prepared ola Blake-Bradley.
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Tina Alla
City Clerk
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Vance Zehri er
Energy C' Commis ion Chair
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